Coramoor Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 12 hours ago, Keegan said: Just assuming but I'd guess he wants to keep his cards tight for now. If he attends the friendly then it'll be an awkward position if he's called to a potentially cap tying camp in September and he's not ready to commit. Turning it down would look a bit weird if he doesn't have an injury/recovery related reason not to, specifically because he has been so dedicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 9 hours ago, Coramoor said: Turning it down would look a bit weird if he doesn't have an injury/recovery related reason not to, specifically because he has been so dedicated. Not really, Fraser Aird attended u20 camps before he was committed to our MNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, Keegan said: Not really, Fraser Aird attended u20 camps before he was committed to our MNT. Aird was also committed long before people knew he was. He had already filed his switch papers and then wasn't called to the next few senior camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, rob.notenboom said: Aird was also committed long before people knew he was. He had already filed his switch papers and then wasn't called to the next few senior camps. That's true but I'm talking back in 2013. Aird was called to a u20 camp in May but turned down the Gold Cup call next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Keegan said: Not really, Fraser Aird attended u20 camps before he was committed to our MNT. Not really. He was commited to our MNT when he attended U20 camps because he used his one-time switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, Blackdude said: Not really. He was commited to our MNT when he attended U20 camps because he used his one-time switch. No he wasn't because he didn't need to use his switch to play for our u20s in a friendly camp. Fraser never actually played for our youth in a camp where he would have needed to switch. After Fraser played for our U20s he himself said he still hadn't made his mind up, implying there wasn't a switch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Keegan said: That's true but I'm talking back in 2013. Aird was called to a u20 camp in May but turned down the Gold Cup call next month. Yes true. If the info I have is correct he filed his switch sometime late in 2014 or early in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) Tomori is Chelsea's academy player of the year! edit: that link did not work, here it is https://mobile.twitter.com/ChelseaFC/status/731225849903611904 Edited May 13, 2016 by Complete Homer jpg75 and Bertuzzi44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 10 hours ago, Complete Homer said: Tomori is Chelsea's academy player of the year! Horrible news. A_Gagne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 He is buddies with Bustos, that is a good sign. In this article, http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/05/12/canada-youth-international-fikayo-tomori-turning-heads-chelsea-fc it says: 'Gale plans to call Tomori into the Canadian U-20 squad later this month, for a training camp and pair of friendlies in Costa Rica.' that will show us if he is wanting to play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Tomori being friend with Bustos is a good sign for Chile! shermanator, El Hombre, A_Gagne and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I think he's pretty committed to the program. He's wearing the captains armband, that's not something that's going to go to a player who is waffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 16 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: I think he's pretty committed to the program. He's wearing the captains armband, that's not something that's going to go to a player who is waffling. Asmir Begovic canucklefan, Bertuzzi44 and Addona 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Let's not let a few players taint us forever in fear. I'm done with the fearmongering. Look how many players have chosen to play for us in the past 3 years. It's a different era. Edited May 14, 2016 by baulderdash77 gator and yomurphy1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Just now, baulderdash77 said: Let's not let 1 player taint is forever in fear. I'm done with the fearmongering. Look how many players have chosen to play for us in the past 3 years. It's a different era. I agree. Just pointing out a fact about a former youth captain who turned his back on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Things aren't always as they seem.. Think about this scenario: Gale contacts Tomori, tells him he doesn't need to commit to us but he'll be a key part of our U20 side and the captain... Remember both Gale and Tomori are young and trying to get ahead. Not to say Tomori won't commit to us eventually but surely it's too soon for a guy who has basically zero ties to Canada? We've seen guys with far tighter ties ditch us. Half joking when I say that the CSA should be looking to MLSE and their Drake connection to help with young commits. Edited May 14, 2016 by Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I see we've entered the "endless speculation that he's going to leave us" phase of the thread. El Hombre and king1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 minute ago, lazlo_80 said: I see we've entered the "endless speculation that he's going to leave us" phase of the thread. I don't think it's speculation, it must be fact to a reasonable person. The guy has no memories or affiliation to our country aside from his birth. This isn't hockey and he is eligible for two teams that are consistently in major tournaments. Just ask yourself a) Could you really blame him for keeping his options open? and b ) if one of England/Nigeria come calling do you think he is turning it down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I think it's highly likely that Canada is 3rd on his list. still, he is nowhere near England's radar right now- they have at least 10 better prospects than him at the same age and position. I don't know about Nigeria, but they have a limited window to get him involved. He's involved in our program and by all accounts enjoys playing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Time to change this thread to "The importance of Fikayo Tomori". nolando, king1010 and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Keegan said: I don't think it's speculation, it must be fact to a reasonable person. The guy has no memories or affiliation to our country aside from his birth. This isn't hockey and he is eligible for two teams that are consistently in major tournaments. Just ask yourself a) Could you really blame him for keeping his options open? and b ) if one of England/Nigeria come calling do you think he is turning it down? It was just a joke. Every thread about a promising player goes into this conversation at some point. Soon we'll enter the "screw it we don't need him anyway" phase. Followed by a sprinkling of the always fun "we only want people who are proud to wear the maple leaf. CANADURRRR!!!!!" Phase. Then the "oh my god he's playing for the first team! Please please please play for us" phase. Also so sprinkle in some over analysis of some interview where he talks about his nationality and you basically have the story of this thread for the next year or so red card 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) 18 hours ago, Floortom said: I think it's highly likely that Canada is 3rd on his list. still, he is nowhere near England's radar right now- they have at least 10 better prospects than him at the same age and position. I don't know about Nigeria, but they have a limited window to get him involved. He's involved in our program and by all accounts enjoys playing with us. He's come on in the second half now and has looked pretty good against Leicester. England, a country that doesn't produce anywhere close to the volume of great players when compared to their major international rivals, a country whose top flight pretty much ignores young domestic talent has at least 10 better prospects? What are their names, the clubs they play for and how many first team appearances have they had? Edited May 15, 2016 by Macksam Addona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomurphy1 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Tomori played right-back, wasn't challenged much, but showed good recovery speed and passing. A very small sample size, but I'd love to see him get a start against Uzbekistan. He showed more ability that Ledgerwood, Henry (out of position), and Aird (talented, but inexperienced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) I would bring Aird and Tomori in to camp and have them compete for the spot. First to cap tie Tomori, if he would even accept the call. Have Ledgerwood in camp also to be the option at RB if both do not fit Floro's system. Edited May 15, 2016 by Ruffian kmouseyc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 25 minutes ago, Macksam said: He's come on in the second half now and has looked pretty good against Leicester. England, a country that doesn't produce anywhere close to the volume of great players when compared to their major international rivals, a country whose top flight pretty much ignores young domestic talent has at least 10 better prospects? What are their names, the clubs they play for and how many first team appearances have they had? Well look at the last few England U-19 squads. There are numerous defenders the same age or younger who have more EPL experience than Tomori. Also Tomori has never been called into any England squad / camp so I think it's fair to say he isn't in the mix right now. also, I talked about Tomori with some Chelesea fans and while they liked him as a prospect none thought that he would realistically be a National team fixture by any means. They all thought Nigeria, or even Canada, would be more likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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