SpecialK Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, canta15 said: @SpecialK Fabian Johnson, was born in Germany, plays in Germany, played U21 German squad. Now plays for the USA. So anything is possible, so stop being a jaded prick! Have hope. Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Fabian Johnson, was born in Germany, plays in Germany, played U21 German squad. Now plays for the USA. So anything is possible, so stop being a jaded prick! Have hope. Johnson was 23 turning 24 at the time and was unlikely to break into the German NT. The US also is a top 30-40 NT and their coach at the time was a German legend. Stop being a fool. Obinna and Olympique_de_Marseille 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Fabian Johnson, was born in Germany, plays in Germany, played U21 German squad. Now plays for the USA. So anything is possible, so stop being a jaded prick! Have hope. Stop including him in your lineups like he's one of the lads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Just now, SpecialK said: Fabian Johnson, was born in Germany, plays in Germany, played U21 German squad. Now plays for the USA. So anything is possible, so stop being a jaded prick! Have hope. You literally said: Just now, SpecialK said: If he doesn't get called up for the World Cup next year and maybe euros, I believe Canada has a great chance at getting Tomori I'd argue the last part of your statement is wildly optimistic but in line with some of our hopes and dreams. The first part of your statement (IN BOLD) goes beyond any rational (or even slightly irrational) optimism. It effectively says, if he doesn't make the senior England squad for 2018 he will forgo playing in... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship ...to play friendlies for Canada that year? It makes no sense. Your drinking the kook-aid if you think he switches before July 2019. I'm not jaded; I'm not old man @El Hombre Edited August 29, 2017 by Olympique_de_Marseille Blackdude and jpg75 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I mean by if doesn't make it in the next World Cup and euros, he won't be capped so right there, still got a shot. Do I think he'll make the World Cup next year hell no, euros maybe. But here's his competition ( CB under 25 ) and that list is just a simple sample from who has played for England. God knows who else could be called up for England. Joe Gomez - 20 Liverpool Dael Fry-19 Middlesbrough Joe Worrall- 19 Nottingham Forest Michael Keane - 24 - Everton John Stones - 23 - Manchester City Harry Maguire - 23 - Leicester City Ben Gibson - 24 Middlesbrough Reece Oxford 18 Borussia Mönchengladbach Darnell Johnson 18 - u23 Leicester City Easah Suliman 18 - u23 aston villa Mason Holgate 20 Everton There still a chance for Tomori to switch to back to Canada. Also by 2019 comes by, Canada might be top 50-60 or higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, SpecialK said: I mean by if doesn't make it in the next World Cup and euros, he won't be capped so right there, still got a shot. Do I think he'll make the World Cup next year hell no, euros maybe. But here's his competition ( CB under 25 ) and that list is just a simple sample from who has played for England. God knows who else could be called up for England. Joe Gomez - 20 Liverpool Dael Fry-19 Middlesbrough Joe Worrall- 19 Nottingham Forest Michael Keane - 24 - Everton John Stones - 23 - Manchester City Harry Maguire - 23 - Leicester City Ben Gibson - 24 Middlesbrough Reece Oxford 18 Borussia Mönchengladbach Darnell Johnson 18 - u23 Leicester City Easah Suliman 18 - u23 aston villa Mason Holgate 20 Everton There still a chance for Tomori to switch to back to Canada. Also by 2019 comes by, Canada might be top 50-60 or higher. Dude he's 20 and on Chelsea's bench Blackjack15, Moldy9 and SpecialK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He can also play FB. I love these lists of mediocre English talent that every fan boy trots out like they're awesome. Obinna, Blackdude, Bikerack and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, matty said: Dude he's 20 and on Chelsea's bench That's why I want him to play for Canada. He's really good. I'm losing out hope a lot can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Just now, SpecialK said: That's why I want him to play for Canada. He's really good. I'm losing out hope a lot can happen Yea I so do I but he's English and seems to have the skills to make it there Edited August 30, 2017 by matty A_Gagne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, matty said: Yea I so do I but he's English and seems to have the skills to make it there I totally agree, it's a small chance but still a chance, lots can happen from 2017 to 2019. Weird shit happens in soccer all the time. Prime examples - Scotty Arfield not being called up by Scotland. Canada wins the gold cup in 2000, Canada ties Brazil, Arsène Wenger is still the manger of Arsenal. Edited August 30, 2017 by SpecialK johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moldy9 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 hours ago, matty said: Dude he's 20 and on Chelsea's bench Agree. I don't know why we still talk about him. The ship has sailed. Unless it hits an iceberg I'd consider the odds of Tomori joining the Canadian squad to winning lotto max. E gone. Eee gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brethers8 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 12 hours ago, SpecialK said: I mean by if doesn't make it in the next World Cup and euros, he won't be capped so right there, still got a shot. Do I think he'll make the World Cup next year hell no, euros maybe. But here's his competition ( CB under 25 ) and that list is just a simple sample from who has played for England. God knows who else could be called up for England. Joe Gomez - 20 Liverpool Dael Fry-19 Middlesbrough Joe Worrall- 19 Nottingham Forest Michael Keane - 24 - Everton John Stones - 23 - Manchester City Harry Maguire - 23 - Leicester City Ben Gibson - 24 Middlesbrough Reece Oxford 18 Borussia Mönchengladbach Darnell Johnson 18 - u23 Leicester City Easah Suliman 18 - u23 aston villa Mason Holgate 20 Everton There still a chance for Tomori to switch to back to Canada. Also by 2019 comes by, Canada might be top 50-60 or higher. 4 of those are in the championship and won't sniff England if they don't get a move higher up. Also Johnson could be good or flop, and I suspect that Oxford will get forgotten somewhat if he stays out in Germany even though I rate him. I also rate Joe Gomez but he seems to get played more as a full back and I think he's good there He's got Cahill, Jones, Stones, Smalling definitely ahead of him and that's it. Keane could get there as could Maguire but if Tomori actually plays regularly at Chelsea or another PL team he's on par with them IMO. He's actually quite close to breaking into the squad, IF he plays regular football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 12 hours ago, SpecialK said: I mean by if doesn't make it in the next World Cup and euros, he won't be capped so right there, still got a shot. Do I think he'll make the World Cup next year hell no, euros maybe. But here's his competition ( CB under 25 ) and that list is just a simple sample from who has played for England. God knows who else could be called up for England. Joe Gomez - 20 Liverpool Dael Fry-19 Middlesbrough Joe Worrall- 19 Nottingham Forest Michael Keane - 24 - Everton John Stones - 23 - Manchester City Harry Maguire - 23 - Leicester City Ben Gibson - 24 Middlesbrough Reece Oxford 18 Borussia Mönchengladbach Darnell Johnson 18 - u23 Leicester City Easah Suliman 18 - u23 aston villa Mason Holgate 20 Everton There still a chance for Tomori to switch to back to Canada. Also by 2019 comes by, Canada might be top 50-60 or higher. I also wish we'd be top 50-60 by 2019 but how will that happen by only playing a few friendlies in 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: I'm not jaded; I'm not old man @El Hombre HEY!!!! Not inaccurate, but still.... Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, MtlMario said: I also wish we'd be top 50-60 by 2019 but how will that happen by only playing a few friendlies in 2018? There's another gold cup in 2019 and WCQ will start as well, plus Friendlies. Also there's the Olympics in 2020 ( and qualifying ), I don't know if that counts ? Also there's Copa America, if we get invited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I'd really like to know why Haiti is ranked so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, TFC2017 said: I'd really like to know why Haiti is ranked so high. Part of the answer goes because of their qualifying results according to FIFA: Win against Saint Kitts and Nevis Win against Trinidad and Tobago Win against Suirname Win against Nicaragua Loss against Nicaragua. (Yes, I didn't count that loss against French Guiana, because I said according to FIFA) Canada in its Gold Cup matches has this Draw against Honduras Draw againts Costa Rica Loss against Jamaica. While you say oh it's against better teams, It doesn't matter. Haiti won 4 of its 5 meaningful matches while we couldn't win 1 of our 3 meaningful matches that count toward the FIFA rankings. TFC2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Moldy9 said: Agree. I don't know why we still talk about him. The ship has sailed. Unless it hits an iceberg I'd consider the odds of Tomori joining the Canadian squad to winning lotto max. E gone. Eee gone. Like I get it could happen but it's not happening unless, as you said, an ice berg pops up. This is one thread that should be locked up for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 People forget that tomori is also eligible for Nigeria. If he's not quite good enough for England that would be his next logical option. toontownman, matty and Blackjack15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I like Special K's optimism and I don't want to quell that but I think he overestimates the pull that playing for Canada has for folks who have other options. Plus many of us have been around forever and the pain since 1986 or even 2000 has been immeasurable. But to defend him on this one, he did say Tomori representing Canada is a small chance. Hell, how many pages is the Hoilett thread up to? And did any of us have absolutely no doubts that he would eventually put on a Canadian shirt 4-5 years ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 hours ago, SpecialK said: There's another gold cup in 2019 and WCQ will start as well, plus Friendlies. Also there's the Olympics in 2020 ( and qualifying ), I don't know if that counts ? Also there's Copa America, if we get invited. do you actually think we're getting invited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 There are at least six CONCACAF countries that would get invited to Copa America ahead of us, and probably a couple more. Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It all depends what Canada does from now until then. Copa America is a year and half roughly away, a lot can happen. Maybe only USA, Mexico and European teams get invited. Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, theaub said: There are at least six CONCACAF countries that would get invited to Copa America ahead of us, and probably a couple more. I'd say only 6. After that quality becomes too close to really notice a difference and at that point might as well pick the super rich nation with lots of TVs Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, SpecialK said: It all depends what Canada does from now until then. Copa America is a year and half roughly away, a lot can happen. Maybe only USA, Mexico and European teams get invited. I'd rather we start playing nations league Kent and maccaliam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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