Hawkguy Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Brethers8 said: Straith looked good when he came on. I'm disappointed with hutch, he has looked off the boil his last few games with us. The ledgerwood sub blows my mind. Backline looked shit bar straith, shit closing down on their players. Henry, I rate you. But today you laid an egg, and it's another soul crushing defeat. I'm crestfallen Straith was very, very good in the home against Belize last year. Not sure how he's been since then. So was Piette for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Floro did a poor job for this game. I really think the game is on him. Honestly not calling up Osorio and Johnson is what did us in. They could have made a difference . I was shocked that we played Edgar at MF but to be honest considering the lack of midfielders Edgar was a good choice and he played well out of position. Henry isn't a RB despite what Floro thinks and this also directly lead to the loss. Either Ledgerwood or Air would have been much better choices. I think bringing in Ledgerwood for Larin was poor as well. We conceded the game with 23 minutes to go. The cumulative effect of poor team selection, poor starting selection and poor substitute patteno made this an impossible game. We could have had this and we gave it away. I was a Floro supporter but I have to concede that we need a new coach. I expect Floro will resign or be fired next week after our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolvid Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, SCF08 said: That's not even good enough. Honduras have scored 6 and conceded 6 Canada have scored 2 and conceded 7 If the goal difference is the same than goals scored becomes the decider. If Mexico wins 3-0 and Canada wins 2-0, Honduras will still have scored more goals. Canada will have to score at least 3 realistically to stand any sort of chance. Advancing with less than 3 goals would be a miracle and requires a lot of Mexican help. Floro has brought himself and Canada in a very difficult spot by not going for the draw and going for the narrow loss. He was going for the draw, we didn't have the talent to hold it. Did you see the 2nd goal defending and how quickly we "closed" in on the 1st goal lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Canadian Pride said: Starting Henry at RB is a reason to fire him? he tried putting on ledgerwood for some energy since he's a heart and soul guy. I don't love the substitution but I could understand it. Larin was doing nothing like he usually does for Canada and he was tired on top of that... Its a culmination of dubious decisions over 4 years. That being one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpetzz Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 we'll be up three on Tuesday late and then a sudden controversial penalty for Honduras will happen at Azteca making it 3-1 mexico.... Concacaf at its best lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 We need to find a way to win in Central America. Canada will never make a World Cup if we can't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Just now, RJB said: This is awfully petulant. We were always going to have difficulty, and frankly, to only lose by one is really third best scenario. The subs were defensive, but what had we done, all game long to indicate that we could equalize. We had no chance in the second half, they were that superior and we were absolutely out of gas. That was so clear. And so to keep the loss by one actually gives us a chance, believe it or not. I'm gutted to lose, but when we scored, that was some really good feeling that I had. That felt so good! But to lose by one, away in that heat, can't be scoffed at. Sure.. it's not an AWFUL result. Although without Borjan, it's closer to that 8-1 score from a few years ago. But it doesn't matter whether you believe you're going to score or not. The whole point is the World Cup. You don't play to lose. A +6 differential is nearly impossible. Simeon Jackson was right there on the bench, in game shape, and has scored a bunch of goals in the last few weeks. Why Ledgerwood? Not to mention, we should have subbed Hoilett, he was much much worse than Larin. He had nothing left at half-time, let alone at the 90 minute mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brethers8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, 1Knight said: Wasn't 8-1, but it sure wasn't close to good enough. Sorry, we just don't have the ability or players at this current time to make Hex, even with good additions this cycle. Back 4 was a mess, felt at times in second half Honduras could have picked their number to score today which was really discouraging. Not sure there is a more uninspiring change that Ledgerwood for Larin. That substitution makes me sad. I like(d) floro, but jeeeeeeeeez could you make a more negative substitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Just now, king1010 said: Its a culmination of dubious decisions over 4 years. That being one of them. It really is a cumulative set of decisions and his own ego getting in the way of fielding the best roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Canadian Pride said: Starting Henry at RB is a reason to fire him? he tried putting on ledgerwood for some energy since he's a heart and soul guy. I don't love the substitution but I could understand it. Larin was doing nothing like he usually does for Canada and he was tired on top of that... Take Larin out then and put in Jackson. SOMETHING. You play to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brethers8 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hawkguy said: Straith was very, very good in the home against Belize last year. Not sure how he's been since then. So was Piette for that matter. I've always liked straith, and I'm glad he's playing at a decent level and getting game time for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic78 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, RJB said: This is awfully petulant. We were always going to have difficulty, and frankly, to only lose by one is really third best scenario. The subs were defensive, but what had we done, all game long to indicate that we could equalize. We had no chance in the second half, they were that superior and we were absolutely out of gas. That was so clear. And so to keep the loss by one actually gives us a chance, believe it or not. I'm gutted to lose, but when we scored, that was some really good feeling that I had. That felt so good! But to lose by one, away in that heat, can't be scoffed at. Much easier to tie today's game up than wing and a prayer it on Tuesday. you wan't to grab control of your own destiny or hope for Mexico to do your dirty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpetzz Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The problem is that the CSA accepts poor results. Mexico or central American nations are not scared to fire a coach in the middle of a qualifying campaign. Even if they win games, if they aren't playing well or winning easy, their federations make changes. Wait till they hire Herdman and we all throw up hearing the news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 There was a better chance we get a draw with 30 mins left in that game then there was we win by 3 and honduras loses by 3 nxt game. Subbing on a defender for a forward was ridiculous if we conceded another goal then we had to make up 7 goals nxt game instead of 6. Both are nearly impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I swear the Canadians fans say the same thing as Americans when their team does bad. If losing Print"Fire coach" Elseif Print "this single player would have made all the difference" End if Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkguy Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, Canadian Pride said: Starting Henry at RB is a reason to fire him? he tried putting on ledgerwood for some energy since he's a heart and soul guy. I don't love the substitution but I could understand it. Larin was doing nothing like he usually does for Canada and he was tired on top of that... You want heart and soul? Then bring guys like Will Johnson and Iain Hume from the get-go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpetzz Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 People should email Pres Victor and ask him if the CSA supports a coach that choose to lose by a little rather than try for a result. Ask Victor if he thought subbing on a defender for a striker was a good decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Some people questioning the larin sub, but when we can't even string together a simple pass in the midfield with most of our best midfielders I think it was probably the best we could do that that point. Another striker isn't going to have any affect when he can't even touch the ball. That's what I get out of that sub at least. That's mostly on not calling up a few certain midfielders though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic78 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, dpetzz said: People should email Pres Victor and ask him if the CSA supports a coach that choose to lose by a little rather than try for a result. Ask Victor if he thought subbing on a defender for a striker was a good decision what's the email? I'll be first to send something in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I hope Michael Findlay takes over. The only time Canada played proactively was against Ghana, when he coached them while Floro was flaming out with the U23s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moldy9 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, dpetzz said: why don't the media question his decisions....oh wait they are all covering the WNT The media in Canada don't have a clue bro. It's all Blue Jays NHL hockey, Jr. hockey and "World Cup" (NHL) hockey. And the few that do know don't get any air time to vent on prime time or they're in the CSA's pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 minute ago, mpg_29 said: I swear the Canadians fans say the same thing as Americans when their team does bad. If losing Print"Fire coach" Elseif Print "this single player would have made all the difference" End if They do but Floro should go. He's done a lot come has failed to deliver in two big tournaments now. That said, I don't think Will Johnson would of been a difference maker based on recent play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfe Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Disappointing result tonight across the board, 3 years now for Floro, I think it's time to change thing's up, I'm sure Canada will rely on him to finish out the campaign but I think he will walk after that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolvid Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, king1010 said: There was a better chance we get a draw with 30 mins left in that game then there was we win by 3 and honduras loses by 3 nxt game. Subbing on a defender for a forward was ridiculous if we conceded another goal then we had to make up 7 goals nxt game instead of 6. Both are nearly impossible Mexico beating Honduras 3-0 at home and us beating ELS at home 3-0 is impossible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Pride Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hawkguy said: Take Larin out then and put in Jackson. SOMETHING. You play to win the game. Yes I understand but it's not a video game we are playing here. Put on Jackson would not have made a difference , defensively we were sloppy and no body was moving up willing to contribute to the attack, they were so tired. So Jackson probably wouldn't have been helpless. At that point in the game, 20mins left, we were lucky not to lose by more goals. At least , although our chances are tough now, it's realistic to score a couple of goals at home against El Salvador and it's possible that Mexico dominates Honduras at Azteca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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