shermanator Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Getting a 2-0 win at Red Bull Arena was not what I was expecting to start the season. Toronto FC did not look great for the first 65 minutes or so but they dominated when it mattered. Big result in a tough place to get one. Taking off the Voyageurs homer glasses, Endoh looks like a great pick up. I've also been a big fan of Delgado going back to last year. If TFC are going to pick up solid young non-Canadian players these are examples of players I enjoy watching. Lovitz on the other hand, just not MLS calibre. How did he get a start? Head scratcher for sure Was interesting to see Ashtone Morgan play as a left winger near the end of the game. I wonder if Morgan could see regular time at left wing this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, shermanator said: Lovitz on the other hand, just not MLS calibre. How did he get a start? Head scratcher for sure I think that's the last that will happen with the way Delgado played. Don't understand how Lovitz has hung on to a roster spot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM2 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I was surprised to see him in the starting line-up and he was invisible unless he was making bad plays, TFC even lost him in the expansion draft to NYCFC and traded to get him back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 It was a strong finish by Toronto they were outplayed the first 60 min and then dominated the final 30. Givinco picked up where he left off with a goal and an assist. He could have had 2 more as well. For Canadians in the game, both Osorio and Johnson started at CM and played box to box. They were both effective through the game. Johnson played with his normal great motor and Osorio was better in that box to box role defensively than I remember him playing before. Morgan came on and played LW after the goal as Toronto shifted to a very defensive 4-5-1 and looked fairly effective bombing forward and getting back in his 12 or so minutes. Interesting development. For sure Lovitz was the weak link out there. As soon as Delgado came on for him there was good linkage between Osorio, Delgado and Givinco up the left. It was the turning point of the game IMO and we were a threat from there out. Good start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Another game where Giovinco did everything in attack. It’s good to have a player like him in the team but TFC needs to be more a team and not depend only on one individual’s skills. Defensively, the team did a good job IMO. Hopefully the defense has improved compared to last year. Judging from TFC’s season last year, I think Vanney was a horrible tactician, specially organizing the defense, but somehow managed to keep his job thanks to Giovinco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I like the name of this thread as much as i like today's result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklefan Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: Morgan came on and played LW after the goal as Toronto shifted to a very defensive 4-5-1 and looked fairly effective bombing forward and getting back in his 12 or so minutes. Interesting development. I must say that since his first season, except the time Nelsen was in charge, I found Morgan was always a good crosser. From the minutes he's played today, the talent is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 If Morgan can show something as a wide midfielder it is really going to add to his playing time. His contract and history with the team kept him here through 2014. His play last year guaranteed some more tenure but multi position versatility will cement him here for years to come. Let's see how it progresses, but I can't remember him playing a wide midfield role ever before today. He has the pace and crossing, but not the nifty dribbling ability I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coramoor Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 19 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: If Morgan can show something as a wide midfielder it is really going to add to his playing time. His contract and history with the team kept him here through 2014. His play last year guaranteed some more tenure but multi position versatility will cement him here for years to come. Let's see how it progresses, but I can't remember him playing a wide midfield role ever before today. He has the pace and crossing, but not the nifty dribbling ability I think. He's a strong crosser with a lot of speed but I don't think he has the ball skills to be a winger, however his defensive ability makes him a solid bench choice as he can cover LB, LM/LW in a defensive situation and essentially RB with Morrow switching over, it's versatility which should give him a decent number of minutes throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 On 2016-03-06 at 4:10 PM, baulderdash77 said: Johnson played with his normal great motor and Osorio was better in that box to box role defensively than I remember him playing before. Speaking of Johnson's motor, maybe he's the ideal partner for Bradley in midfield: because he can run all day and break up plays, he'll be able to effectively cover for Bradley when he wanders all over the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I thought Bradley played awful. His distribution sucked, maybe he's just not fit yet. Why would anyone think Babouli won't get a lot of minutes this year? He's the perfect back-up for Gio, one of the few players that can ceate something. I bet if they'd trailed, he would have been subbed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 4 hours ago, shamrock said: I thought Bradley played awful. His distribution sucked, maybe he's just not fit yet. Why would anyone think Babouli won't get a lot of minutes this year? He's the perfect back-up for Gio, one of the few players that can ceate something. I bet if they'd trailed, he would have been subbed in. He can also replace Endoh or Delgado too. He's worked on his defensive game, so he should be fine out on the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Really surprised Lovitz is entering his 3rd year with us now. I've never seen anything from him to make him worthy of taking up a spot over a young player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 33 minutes ago, Keegan said: Really surprised Lovitz is entering his 3rd year with us now. I've never seen anything from him to make him worthy of taking up a spot over a young player. Let alone starting against NYRB... How is Mo on the wing, I haven't seen much of him to garner an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 7 hours ago, shamrock said: I thought Bradley played awful. His distribution sucked, maybe he's just not fit yet. Why would anyone think Babouli won't get a lot of minutes this year? He's the perfect back-up for Gio, one of the few players that can ceate something. I bet if they'd trailed, he would have been subbed in. Bradley was playing in front of the back four, so he was playing a different role. I think him and WJ played very well and were able to stop NYRB's attack on most occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Re-watching the game, its apparent that the attacking prowess of the team was raised several notches once Lovitz was taken off the field. Its amazing how much one player can make a difference just by getting off the field (and it's not like he was replaced by Messi either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I love this thread title, so frigging desperate, so pathetic. Are folks in TO so contaminated with Leaf's mentality that they can only start a thread at the start of the year with a huge goal: clinching a playoff spot? You read all the pundits and they put TFC in the top 3 in the East. I watched the opener an thought, here is a dangerous team, one of the best in MLS. But no, their fans are all excited about trying to nab that fifth spot asap, maybe even in mid-October. Ambition knows no limits. I'm done trolling, could not resist, because, hey, it is irresistibly, madly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I love this thread title, so frigging desperate, so pathetic. Are folks in TO so contaminated with Leaf's mentality that they can only start a thread at the start of the year with a huge goal: clinching a playoff spot? You read all the pundits and they put TFC in the top 3 in the East. I watched the opener an thought, here is a dangerous team, one of the best in MLS. But no, their fans are all excited about trying to nab that fifth spot asap, maybe even in mid-October. Ambition knows no limits. I'm done trolling, could not resist, because, hey, it is irresistibly, madly sad. You know that it's reference to the team thread titles from the last couple seasons? The ones started by an Impact fan? I assumed Shermenator was kind of poking fun at those titles with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just now, BuzzAndSting said: You know that it's reference to the team thread titles from the last couple seasons? The ones started by an Impact fan? I assumed Shermenator was kind of poking fun at those titles with this one. Went completely over my head. If that is true, then, it is a terribly self-demeaning gesture to have to look at the entire season. I'm going to start a "Canada goes for strong 3rd spot in WCQ Semis Thread" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 When things start going south for TFC this year as they inevitably always do, Trillium will get to start his thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 4 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said: You know that it's reference to the team thread titles from the last couple seasons? The ones started by an Impact fan? I assumed Shermenator was kind of poking fun at those titles with this one. This. Figured I would beat Trillium to the punch this year. 4 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: But no, their fans are all excited about trying to nab that fifth spot asap, maybe even in mid-October. Ambition knows no limits. I'm done trolling, could not resist, because, hey, it is irresistibly, madly sad. I'm actually a Calgary Foothills and to a lesser extent, FC Edmonton supporter. I decided to support my local club as opposed to becoming a plastic Barca fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 9 hours ago, shermanator said: This. Figured I would beat Trillium to the punch this year. I'm actually a Calgary Foothills and to a lesser extent, FC Edmonton supporter. I decided to support my local club as opposed to becoming a plastic Barca fan. Shots fired!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 On Sunday, March 06, 2016 at 1:37 PM, baulderdash77 said: If Morgan can show something as a wide midfielder it is really going to add to his playing time. His contract and history with the team kept him here through 2014. His play last year guaranteed some more tenure but multi position versatility will cement him here for years to come. Let's see how it progresses, but I can't remember him playing a wide midfield role ever before today. He has the pace and crossing, but not the nifty dribbling ability I think. He has played maybe a couple of times in a more advanced role very early in his career but since then he's been strictly an LB. To me, he's a player who needs time and space when in possession so under closer defensive scrutiny I think his technical shortcomings get exposed. Also, in reference to another post here, I don't see the team going with Morrow as a back up RB at all this season, with Beitashour and Bloom on the roster. Good to see Morgan brought in in the final five minutes with the lead on the road to provide some defensive presence, and if he is able to continue to be the first choice sub in that particular context, that's good but I still don't see him starting outside of Vogageurs Cup matches this year, unless Morrow completely goes in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 13 hours ago, shermanator said: This. Figured I would beat Trillium to the punch this year. I'm actually a Calgary Foothills and to a lesser extent, FC Edmonton supporter. I decided to support my local club as opposed to becoming a plastic Barca fan. Barça is my local club. And in Vancouver I walk to BC Place in 20 minutes. I support my local soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 On 3/7/2016 at 6:34 PM, BuzzAndSting said: You know that it's reference to the team thread titles from the last couple seasons? The ones started by an Impact fan? I assumed Shermenator was kind of poking fun at those titles with this one. Mserson, surely you mean playing hommage, rather then poking fun!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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