lazlo_80 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I hope Hamilton sticks with Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 23 hours ago, BradMack said: This is really something the CPL should try to emulate. I think a youtube highlight show with high production value is a must. Games on TV or atleast on programs like TSN GO or Sportsnet Now with real HD camera quality and legit commentary. It makes for a premium feel and create a much more "Premier League" feel, regardless of the number of teams or the level of play. Considering Toronto Wolfpack are on CBC online, I'd be shocked I'd CPL didn't get at least that. 23 hours ago, BradMack said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 There's going to be DP's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, matty said: Random Q time: What are you likely gonna dislike the most about this league? Me: DPs being mega overpayed, football lines, every team trying to be traditional with their names and shields yea just it's general initial low-rented-ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, matty said: Every team is gonna have a name like Calgary FC or Halifax City or Real Winnipeg. We already know Hamilton United is on it's way. It's gonna be so dull and calling your team "Real" anything is dumb unless one can actually get some kind of royal title from Sealand after Sealand goes Spanish. Maybe someone will break away from it but the vast majority will go after that style. shrug, I'd rather it go in this direction than the other overly NA naming conventions. If you're going to be the City Something or others, just keep it simple and classy or something with history. Whitecaps is the perfect example IMO. It's got history and it's not over the top and cartoon-y. it's based on nature/geography. On the topic of Moncton, I'd be okay with Moncton Tide, or something along those lines I think. Toronto Blizzard. yeah please no "Real" anything, for petes sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper1917 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Seems like Soccer New Brunswick is really leading a push to get a professional soccer team in NB within the next 3 years. I know its a long shot BUT just maybe there is something to Moncton having a shot in the CPL? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-canada-premier-soccer-1.4034982 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, grasshopper1917 said: Seems like Soccer New Brunswick is really leading a push to get a professional soccer team in NB within the next 3 years. I know its a long shot BUT just maybe there is something to Moncton having a shot in the CPL? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/moncton-canada-premier-soccer-1.4034982 Wow. This dude is PRing his cause like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: shrug, I'd rather it go in this direction than the other overly NA naming conventions. If you're going to be the City Something or others, just keep it simple and classy or something with history. Whitecaps is the perfect example IMO. It's got history and it's not over the top and cartoon-y. it's based on nature/geography. On the topic of Moncton, I'd be okay with Moncton Tide, or something along those lines I think. Toronto Blizzard. yeah please no "Real" anything, for petes sakes. Are you ready for the REAL CANADIAN SOCCER LEAGUE sponsored by the REAL CANADIAN SUPERSTORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Gopherbashi said: Are you ready for the REAL CANADIAN SOCCER LEAGUE sponsored by the REAL CANADIAN SUPERSTORE shoot me in the fucking face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Dominic94 said: There's going to be DP's ? No one knows. There was a report probably 6 months back (Rollins?) that the idea had been floated among the stakeholders but nothing more specific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Something I didn't see discussed yet from the CBC article is Bouida's projection of a $5 million annual cost of running the team. Have to think he's gotten that info from a reasonable source given his position. For reference, that's about 8000 fans paying approximately premium FC Edmonton money for season tickets, assuming no other revenue streams. I can see why the 6000 fan mark keeps coming up when you consider sponsorship, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauder01 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 6 hours ago, lazlo_80 said: I hope Hamilton sticks with Steelers. BOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCanuck Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 2 hours ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: shoot me in the fucking face I thought it was real-ly funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCanuck Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 hours ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: shrug, I'd rather it go in this direction than the other overly NA naming conventions. If you're going to be the City Something or others, just keep it simple and classy or something with history. Whitecaps is the perfect example IMO. It's got history and it's not over the top and cartoon-y. it's based on nature/geography. On the topic of Moncton, I'd be okay with Moncton Tide, or something along those lines I think. Toronto Blizzard. yeah please no "Real" anything, for petes sakes. I agree. Leave names like The Whateverville Thunder for other sports please, along with Day-Glo kits and angry cartoon unicorn logos and goal sirens and crappy music while the game's on (or any other time really) and t-shirt guns that get more noise from the crowd than a goal. I'm sure we all remember when MLS first started and the Wiz played the Burn...two words you never really want in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Complete Homer said: Something I didn't see discussed yet from the CBC article is Bouida's projection of a $5 million annual cost of running the team. Have to think he's gotten that info from a reasonable source given his position. For reference, that's about 8000 fans paying approximately premium FC Edmonton money for season tickets, assuming no other revenue streams. I can see why the 6000 fan mark keeps coming up when you consider sponsorship, etc Number seems a little high to me given what we think we know. We have heard about a $1.5 million salary cap right? Do they really estimate the travel budget, staff, marketing, and stadium costs to be $3.5 million? Maybe the cap is higher than we expect it to be? Maybe each team will have an Academy system? Maybe I'm missing an extra cost or underestimating some things but $5 million seems like a maximum number to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Complete Homer said: Something I didn't see discussed yet from the CBC article is Bouida's projection of a $5 million annual cost of running the team. Have to think he's gotten that info from a reasonable source given his position. For reference, that's about 8000 fans paying approximately premium FC Edmonton money for season tickets, assuming no other revenue streams. I can see why the 6000 fan mark keeps coming up when you consider sponsorship, etc They will need to scale that back considerably or it's almost certainly not going to work in smaller cities like Moncton, so it's understandable why Victor Montagliani says that they are still looking at the business plan. What tends to happen on new leagues in Canadian soccer, however, is that reality once it unfolds doesn't quite match the grandiose vision statement. [Edit: the $5 million number is absolutely crazy. At $20 per spectator which is pushing it for something like this when concessions and group sales are factored in, you are looking at crowds of just over 16500 to hit break even on 15 home games.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Dominic94 said: There's going to be DP's ? Likely if they are following the MLS model 8 hours ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: shrug, I'd rather it go in this direction than the other overly NA naming conventions. If you're going to be the City Something or others, just keep it simple and classy or something with history. Whitecaps is the perfect example IMO. It's got history and it's not over the top and cartoon-y. it's based on nature/geography. On the topic of Moncton, I'd be okay with Moncton Tide, or something along those lines I think. Toronto Blizzard. yeah please no "Real" anything, for petes sakes. I have no issue with the Whitecaps name or Chicago Fire and would love it if we saw Calgary Wild Horses FC or Winnipeg Forks FC but a uniform collection of FCs, Uniteds and Citys lacks character even if "classy" (which it isn't anymore look at every recent MLS team). Traditional North American naming can give that character and if you can combine them then we're golden. Moncton Tide would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 3 hours ago, SuperCanuck said: I agree. Leave names like The Whateverville Thunder for other sports please, along with Day-Glo kits and angry cartoon unicorn logos and goal sirens and crappy music while the game's on (or any other time really) and t-shirt guns that get more noise from the crowd than a goal. I'm sure we all remember when MLS first started and the Wiz played the Burn...two words you never really want in the same sentence. You haven't been to a game in Europe recently have you. Shit is full of North American sports tropes. Player superhero intros, pregame and mid game rock songs, dumb as fuck mascots for beer companies parading around and ads blasting on the megatron the whole freaking time. The issue with naming you team FC Calgary is that it isn't at all special anymore and is a cheap as fuck way of naming your team to get cheap purist love. I'd rather see a hybrid of the two styles which we've seen done very well in Canada with the Whitecaps (as pointed out above). Also Wiz-Burn is amazingly funny. BTW on Wiz is perfect if we are naming from a city's history/culture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grande Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I'm generally against Euro names, but Hamilton's had identity issues since it was amalgamated, so I wouldn't be fully opposed to Hamilton United. My top fear for the league is that it's going to be way more Mickey Mouse than we're all hoping. We've thrown around "NASL level" a few times, but I'm a little worried we're going to be "top half of L1O level." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 As Burlington street has just been renamed Nikola Tesla Boulevard (who I believe was a big player in implementing alternating current electricity), the CPL team should be AC Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 6 hours ago, BradMack said: Number seems a little high to me given what we think we know. We have heard about a $1.5 million salary cap right? Do they really estimate the travel budget, staff, marketing, and stadium costs to be $3.5 million? Maybe the cap is higher than we expect it to be? Maybe each team will have an Academy system? Maybe I'm missing an extra cost or underestimating some things but $5 million seems like a maximum number to me. If I am remembering correctly, Duane Rollins first mentioned that 1.5 million salary cap years ago. He actually reported that he was told there would be a $3 million annual budget, and made a guess that half of it would be for player salaries, thus $1.5 million salary cap. I believe that was probably during the NASL Canada division days but it could be shortly after that time. It's possible things have changed since then. As BBTB pointed out, if the number really is that high, they'll need most of their income from stuff other than tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 5 hours ago, Kent said: If I am remembering correctly, Duane Rollins first mentioned that 1.5 million salary cap years ago. He actually reported that he was told there would be a $3 million annual budget, and made a guess that half of it would be for player salaries, thus $1.5 million salary cap. I believe that was probably during the NASL Canada division days but it could be shortly after that time. It's possible things have changed since then. As BBTB pointed out, if the number really is that high, they'll need most of their income from stuff other than tickets. According to vic the plan is for the league to not be dependent on ticket sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hammer- Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 8 hours ago, marauder01 said: BOOOO I've thought about it more, and yes Hamilton is more then steel...but Ottawa is also more then lumber (an industry that from my understanding, doesn't really exist in Ottawa anymore) and they've done great with the RedBlacks and their lumberjack branding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Speaking of Euro sounding names or what have you, if that rumoured European ownership does happen to be Celtic, and Toronto the destination, we'll know the CPL has truly made it when said team has a moment like this against Club America or some other big Mexican team in the Champion's league.....just sub Tony Watt for Shaan Hundal or Jordan Hamilton if one of them fails to make the grade at TFC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqgABqp8Y38 Ah, gotta love grinding out a result against all odds after being massively out possessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Hammer- Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, maccaliam said: As Burlington street has just been renamed Nikola Tesla Boulevard (who I believe was a big player in implementing alternating current electricity), the CPL team should be AC Hamilton. That's actually pretty good, as for a while in the 30s Hamilton was known as the Electric city, and Hamilton does have a large Italian community. That said, even if you did some kind of electric branding, there would be certain groups that wouldn't take a shine to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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