RS Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Keegan said: Chris Richards on loan from FC Dallas made his debut in a friendly competition and mlssoccer is celebrating it as a first team debut for Bayern. You really seem to care what the MLS website has to say. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpursFlu Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I think he'll be gone because he can't play until he turns 18 which is early November. That's a pretty reasonable amount of time to get a 17yr old climatized anyways. I'm feeling much better about the new reports. Just 12 million would have been bad business but the added performance bonus and sell on % makes more sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I suppose the debate for Bayern will be if it is better to keep Davies developing and playing meaningful games with the Caps till the end of season, or protect him from injury. I have a feeling--based on nothing--that they will want him to stay with the Caps but with the proviso that the Caps not run him into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Beaver said: I suppose the debate for Bayern will be if it is better to keep Davies developing and playing meaningful games with the Caps till the end of season, or protect him from injury. I have a feeling--based on nothing--that they will want him to stay with the Caps but with the proviso that the Caps not run him into the ground. If I were Bayern I probably wouldn't let him play in MLS anymore. So many 50/50 balls and sprinting for the ball in MLS that the risk for injury probably isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 29 minutes ago, mpg_29 said: If I were Bayern I probably wouldn't let him play in MLS anymore. So many 50/50 balls and sprinting for the ball in MLS that the risk for injury probably isn't worth it. They obviously want him healthy and at his best when he goes to Germany to play for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 9 hours ago, SuperCanuck said: I wonder how much attention Davies is getting in Germany. Someone's gone to a lot of trouble to not only paste a Bayern shirt on Alphonso, but also putting this video together of Davies making it look like the opposition are the ones who are 17, not him. This video is pure soccer porn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 7:17 AM, Gordon said: It turned out well for the last Canadian to sign with them (other than the whole England thing) and Germany generally has been good spot for Canadians. #cap-tied! ? ? 22 hours ago, Keegan said: For all the talk they truly don’t care about Canadians. Only when the yanks get all the spoils can they be happy for us getting some scraps. If we’re first or better at something the tone changes. +1... I wonder how the employment prospects would be for Canadians in MLS if ever the CMNT started actually competing with the USMNT on a regular basis. I'm guessing things would go from lip-services to outright hostility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, A_Gagne said: I wonder how the employment prospects would be for Canadians in MLS if ever the CMNT started actually competing with the USMNT on a regular basis. I'm guessing things would go from lip-services to outright hostility. Can we get over this inferiority complex? Did MLS limit employment for Mexicans, Costa Ricans and Panamanians after those countries went to the World Cup and the U.S. didn't? Were all Trinidadians expelled from the league after their team crushed the American WC dream in Port of Spain? Canadian employment options are artificially limited by B.S. USSF protectionism and it's a situation that needs to improve, but it's not going to get worse if Canada gets better. If anything, that'll mean more MLS coaches would be open to taking a look at Canadian players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Off topic but...Iv'e noticed an uptick in Canadians getting minutes in MLS in the last year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 1 minute ago, mpg_29 said: Off topic but...Iv'e noticed an uptick in Canadians getting minutes in MLS in the last year or so. I guess all those anonymous threatening letters had an effect.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just now, admin said: I guess all those anonymous threatening letters had an effect.... I figured it had to do the CPL upcoming...MLS figured it might have somewhat of a competitor...and for the Canadian MLS teams where a lot of the Canadians play it kinda does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, mpg_29 said: I figured it had to do the CPL upcoming...MLS figured it might have somewhat of a competitor...and for the Canadian MLS teams where a lot of the Canadians play it kinda does. Nah. There are Canadians playing 'cause they should be playing, and others playing because of injuries. CanPL will be a source of players for MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 45 minutes ago, admin said: Nah. There are Canadians playing 'cause they should be playing, and others playing because of injuries. CanPL will be a source of players for MLS. Well obviously Canadian players playing in MLS right now or playing in developmental will no doubt make the jump to CanPL and if that happens and the league starts to catch on in popularity then I can see American players also jumping to CanPL eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 14 hours ago, mpg_29 said: This makes no sense. The club asks for a transfer fee. The player, through his agent, asks for a signing bonus. The cheaper the fee negotiated, the better the potential bonus for the player. Many players moving on free transfers get higher bonuses because they've held out in their contracts until the end and have remained "loyal" to the new destination. No club asks for a bonus for its player, that is something that the player is working in counterpoint to the club, not with it. Another thing is if you build in a clause where if the player bought plays in certain competitions, has a certain degree of success, makes certain stats, you pay an added amount on top of the 1st transfer. Conclusion: if its true, if they are asking for a bonus from the club for DAvies, the Caps are numbskulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saladroit Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: This makes no sense. The club asks for a transfer fee. The player, through his agent, asks for a signing bonus. The cheaper the fee negotiated, the better the potential bonus for the player. Many players moving on free transfers get higher bonuses because they've held out in their contracts until the end and have remained "loyal" to the new destination. No club asks for a bonus for its player, that is something that the player is working in counterpoint to the club, not with it. Another thing is if you build in a clause where if the player bought plays in certain competitions, has a certain degree of success, makes certain stats, you pay an added amount on top of the 1st transfer. Conclusion: if its true, if they are asking for a bonus from the club for DAvies, the Caps are numbskulls. i'm pretty sure the 6 million is bonuses, like performance contingent add-ons. But the wording is very confusing, so who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Another thing is if you build in a clause where if the player bought plays in certain competitions, has a certain degree of success, makes certain stats, you pay an added amount on top of the 1st transfer. It must be this, the wording makes it seem the bonus is for Davies directly, but as you say it makes no sense for the 'Caps to as for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 10 hours ago, mpg_29 said: I figured it had to do the CPL upcoming...MLS figured it might have somewhat of a competitor...and for the Canadian MLS teams where a lot of the Canadians play it kinda does. So what? MLS sent it's orders to the the teams and the coaches therefor gave more minutes to Canucks? I'm just not crazy enough to believe that. BTW I really don't think MLS is in any way threatened by CPL. Worse case scenario they'll loose some Canadian prospects, which only serves as an incentive to develop more / better US players which is one of their goals anyway. For the Canadian teams it might be different though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Yeah, Bild says the bonus is performance-based. Also says 'Caps want 15% when he is sold again. I don't think it's unreasonable, I just wouldn't push too hard on the bonuses. https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/bayern-muenchen/kanada-klub-will-15-mio-fuer-teenie-56392090.bild.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 7 hours ago, shamrock said: So what? MLS sent it's orders to the the teams and the coaches therefor gave more minutes to Canucks? I'm just not crazy enough to believe that. BTW I really don't think MLS is in any way threatened by CPL. Worse case scenario they'll loose some Canadian prospects, which only serves as an incentive to develop more / better US players which is one of their goals anyway. For the Canadian teams it might be different though... Yeah MLS obviously sees or will see CPL always as the minor leagues or they will always view CPL as the inferior league which in no way will be able to keep up with them or compete with them on any level. However, that is not to say that CPL one day can't because they very well could. Probably more Canadians will jump over to the CPL in essence to stay closer to home but they won't be as showcased because MLS is more nationally known as far as on TV with MLS having TV rights with big networks and because of all the international talent playing in MLS. CPL is not as globally known because it has hardly any TV rights with any big networks and there are hardly any international stars playing in the CPL. It is only because the league is more or less still in its early stages of development but over time in like another 10 to 20 years then who knows what could happen. For the Canadian MLS teams like TFC, Montreal Impact and Vancouver Whitecaps the CPL long term will hurt these 3 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, Tg11 said: CPL is not as globally known because it has hardly any TV rights with any big networks and there are hardly any international stars playing in the CPL. This sentence, is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, admin said: This sentence, is incredible. Well am I wrong? I mean CPL is not being broadcasted to the world on the big networks like TSN or Sportsnet for example and it hardly has any international stars by that I mean international iconic stars who are actually well known globally. It is more or less because the league is still relatively new well isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Tg11 said: Well am I wrong? I mean CPL is not being broadcasted to the world on the big networks like TSN or Sportsnet for example and it hardly has any international stars by that I mean international iconic stars who are actually well known globally. It is more or less because the league is still relatively new well isn't it? Do you know what 'hardly any' means? It means very few. It has none. The league hasn't even started yet. TSN? It broadcasts in CANADA. Not the world. None of this makes any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tg11 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, admin said: Do you know what 'hardly any' means? It means very few. It has none. The league hasn't even started yet. TSN? It broadcasts in CANADA. Not the world. None of this makes any sense. Yeah but TSN actually may be a Canadian network but it does broadcast in other countries too depending on which country you're in and also if you have satellite TV or an Android box depending on where you are in the world. Yeah the league even if it hasn't started yet surely they would have TV rights set up with at least some distributors Better yet why are we even discussing this at all? The topic of this thread is supposed to be about Alphonso Davies anyway so how does the CPL even remotely apply to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tg11 said: The topic of this thread is supposed to be about Alphonso Davies anyway so how does the CPL even remotely apply to him? It will in 20 years when he leads Halifax to their 19th straight CanPL title and wins the Club World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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