gigi riva Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Going to England would be the worst thing for him EPL does not develop he is better going to Italy Holland or Belguim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 18 hours ago, jpg75 said: He has to stay one more year, he can't transfer outside of Canada, Liberia or Ghana until his 18th bday. Also, i'd bet the farm he signs at a big English club. I hope he doesn't, but it'll probably happen. BTW, thinking about comparisons i see some similarities in his stride and athleticism, ball winning too to Paul Pogba. Tall, lanky athlete who runs at defenders and wastes a bunch of opportunities but seems to make shit happen and scores big goals. Ya Pogba very good comparision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Who gives a rats ass about Pulisic any way lets concentrate on our own guys hopefully Tabla will be wearing red soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 The Davies-Pulisic comparisons are inevitable simply because of the similarities between Canada-US....both have tremendous potential to be real difference makers...I hope both continue to progress and become elite international players...I think it would make for a great rivalry between Canada and the US...which I'd love to see eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, mrstepp817 said: The Davies-Pulisic comparisons are inevitable simply because of the similarities between Canada-US....both have tremendous potential to be real difference makers...I hope both continue to progress and become elite international players...I think it would make for a great rivalry between Canada and the US...which I'd love to see eventually! I agree with everything you have said and I want to see a Canada v USA RIVALARY increase and the same time I want to see us beat the A mericans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstepp817 Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, gigi riva said: I agree with everything you have said and I want to see a Canada v USA RIVALARY increase and the same time I want to see us beat the A mericans As a fan of both it'd be awesome and great for both countries and the region as a whole.....I'd love to see a USA-Canada game at BMO or see them play in Detroit in front of a big crowd where the stadium split is 50/50...talk about a fun sporting experience in general...... I went to USA-Mexico in San Antonio a couple of yrs ago and it was 60/40 Mexico-US and that was unreal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_S Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 3 hours ago, harrycoyster said: ... Do you think Robbo starts Brek Shea over him most games because he hates Davies or something? Davies has loads of talent and potential, but he can be a major liability at times..... Are you seriously suggesting Robbo has any fucking clue about starting winning lineups?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 1 hour ago, gigi riva said: Going to England would be the worst thing for him EPL does not develop he is better going to Italy Holland or Belguim I don't know where the ideal location would be, but I agree re England - and I say that as someone who follows the EPL a lot more than any other league. I would not want to see him move there, only to warm a bench or get immediately loaned to a lower tier English team. He is not yet the world beater that would walk into the starting line-up of an elite club as a kid. In the next few years the most important things will be top coaching and lots of first team playing time in a really competitive environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 With Davies it's not really what he does its how he does it. He'll blow by or go thru a couple players and it doesn't even look like he's trying. Sometimes you can tell the defender knows exactly what hes gonna do but they cant stop it. I watch Tabla play or just say Pulsic and I feel they're more polished footballers but with Davies there is just something about him. And then you remind yourself... he's 16! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Also, don't forget: two years ago, he was still in Edmonton. Most top players are training/developing much more in top academies before that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 60 years ago last Friday at 16 Pele debuted for Brasil and scored. People have pointed out the resemblance. A bit of fun but just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 59 minutes ago, Ed_S said: Are you seriously suggesting Robbo has any fucking clue about starting winning lineups?? We're 4th in the West in PPG despite having the 7th or 8th best roster. So yes, I think he's a decent coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Everything else aside, he's brave. No doubt about that. In the two matches I've seen he's shown he's willing to take responsibility when it matters. Call it the confidence of youth if you want but he's willing to stick his neck out in attack and you can't say that of many Canadian players the last few years. Very refreshing. Lot of training up to do for sure but that will come with real world experience and some very real tests are coming later this week. Can't wait to see what happens but this tourney will be worth it's weight in gold to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 In MLS I think we will see Davies alternate between starts and subs. He and Shea are probably going to start/sub for each other. He's started 6 of 13 games in MLS so in the short term I see that continuing. In the medium term (i.e. next season) he really makes Shea trade bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Excited to see him and Yordy Reyna on the same field. And I'm not even a caps fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort York Redcoat1555362293 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 So happy he got a brace his first time out. I don't expect many more from him this tourny but a couple more would be dreamy. I'm of the mind he should start and see what he can do but can't see him playing all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 22 hours ago, harrycoyster said: I'm pretty sure I listed them in detail somewhere earlier in this thread if you want to go search, but here's a summary: Passing- Davies has a low passing percentage. He has a habit of waiting too long to make a pass. He also isn't very comfortable getting pressed and is easily forced into blind passes into midfield. This is emblematic of a larger issue in his game; he doesn't pick his head up while transitioning from dribbling to passing/crossing. You saw this even in the FG game when Cavallini yelled at him twice for delivering blind crosses. He's also shown that he isn't great at lifting the ball off the ground. He struggles to switch the play and regularly over hits lifted crosses. You'll notice that when shooting, crossing and passing, he tries to keep the ball on the ground, even when the situation calls for more power. Finishing- Davies generally doesn't have a good shot on him. I'm less concerned about this since it may partially be a confidence thing, but Davies reluctance to lift the ball along hurts his ability to strike from distance. He just isn't much of a threat to cut in and score from the top of the box. He has what I call "Juan Agedelo syndrome"; the tendency to try to walk the ball into a 1v1 with the goalkeeper instead of just opening up you hips and taking chances from decent areas. Davies has taken just 6 shots in MLS this season despite having 20 successful dribbles (beat his defender)...that's crazy low. Again, I hope some of this is fixed by his current form. Dribbling technique- Davies prefers to touch the ball with his insteps rather than his toe/laces while dribbling. It's not a terrible thing, most soccer players rely on their insteps to control the direction of the ball. The best wingers in the world, however, use their toe/laces when dribbling because it makes your change of direction much more unpredictable. This is something Davies has clearly been working on, but he likely won't ever be a skill dribbler like Dembele or Neymar. 1v1 ability- I mentioned earlier that Davies has 20 successful dribbles in MLS. That number is really good. Like, really good. The issue here is that he has accumulated those dribbles off of one thing, his change of pace. Oh boy what a change of pace it is, but to be successful against the more talented, faster, smarter fullbacks of European football, he's going to need to develop the skill set of more agile players. In MLS, he has been primarily used as a sub because his change of pace is amplified by the tired legs of defenders 70' into a game. When he does start, his dribble percentage drops as the game goes on because he loses the a lot of his burst due to fatigue. He has some issues with work rate and decision-making as well, but those usually improve greatly over a player's career. The aforementioned issues are things that don't automatically improve with age, though you can assume a 16 year old will get better in those areas; it's just a matter of how much. If he is able to turn these flaws into elite traits you are talking about a world superstar. So a couple things. Decent assessment but I have a bike to pick with the passing. i can't really recall Davies waiting too long to pass the ball (whitecaps, WFCII, or Edmonton strikers video). I'm getting the sense this is a gross overreaction to the one Cav-Davies exchange last match. His passing is okay and getting better, he's always been able to play teammates in at lower levels but hasn't quite done it at MLS (but showing signs). also his change of pace is a huge reason why he can beat MLS defenders but his very odd ability to meg players at pace is a big part of it to. How this stacks up against better defenders, I don't know. Just a note. he can shoot but as you mentioned needs to work on it a lot because he doesn't get it done from the run of play as well as he could yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2SKI Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Has his finishing actually been poor, or is he just not finding himself in good scoring positions with Vancouver? Because that's a pretty common theme with the 'Caps these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdman Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Very cool that after the 1st run in all 3 groups. Davies is the top scorer at 2 goals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 3 hours ago, C2SKI said: Has his finishing actually been poor, or is he just not finding himself in good scoring positions with Vancouver? Because that's a pretty common theme with the 'Caps these days. Few minutes at Caps. A team with very little of the ball. He playing wide outside and mostly respecting the guys in the middle. Sort of like him in the 1st half the other day, just a crosser in. There was a game recently Robbo had him inside, vs. Dallas, and he was good, subbing on, but with defenders deep and in front of him. I think he will score this year, should, but at Caps he can also learn from there more savvy, technical guys with experience. IMO he is not yet as good as Techera, Shea, Montero or Reyna, all of whom have real football intelligence. You have to like how Cavallini shouted at him, like kid, you gotta give me the ball in when I say, and not babying him, I liked that. Next time, he did better. Then, when Alphonso was up high and near him, Lucas comes out, controls, turns and lays of the ball perfectly for his run, a beautifully weighed pass. Our third, mostly Davies´ credit mind you for the run and finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 6 hours ago, C2SKI said: Has his finishing actually been poor, or is he just not finding himself in good scoring positions with Vancouver? Because that's a pretty common theme with the 'Caps these days. Pretty much agree with @Unnamed Trialist. He has 0 goals on 6 shots, which isn't the end of the world by any means. I think the bigger issue is that he doesn't think to shoot unless he's in on goal. He's only taken 1 shot from outside the box this season and I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 hour ago, harrycoyster said: Pretty much agree with @Unnamed Trialist. He has 0 goals on 6 shots, which isn't the end of the world by any means. I think the bigger issue is that he doesn't think to shoot unless he's in on goal. He's only taken 1 shot from outside the box this season and I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a cross. Good point. I don't think there is a single Caps or Canada follower with the remotest idea whether he has a good shot or not. Unless some of the guys who saw him with WC2 paid attention. Which is kinda funny if you think about it, this phenomenon, scoring for us, and we don't know if he can shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 If you watch some of his youth games he shows he's got a good shot (though doesn't seem to have a ton of power) most of his goals are near the net and side footed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Great to hear how Arfield is speaking up on the field and being a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 It's really endearing that he plays football like a prop but still speaks like a 16 year old. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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