koolvid Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 39 minutes ago, Yoginess said: My hope is, and I know this is asking A LOT, that Davies becomes just ever so slightly better than Pulisic I think Davies and Pulisic are worlds apart technically but you never know. I think Davies is far superior physically and that means a lot in international play and especially in the CONCACAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, koolvid said: I think Davies and Pulisic are worlds apart technically but you never know. I think Davies is far superior physically and that means a lot in international play and especially in the CONCACAF. What about a 16 year old Pulisic ? i think Davies is underrated techinically. also did he start the game and play the 90 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolvid Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Dominic94 said: What about a 16 year old Pulisic ? He was very technical and setting the US U-17 on fire as if he were a striker with 28 goals in 34 appearance. He drew Dortmund's attention at such a young age for a reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, koolvid said: He was very technical and setting the US U-17 on fire as if he were a striker with 28 goals in 34 appearance. He drew Dortmund's attention at such a young age for a reason... Is Davies close to that level ? to be fair United did call about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolvid Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 5 hours ago, Dominic94 said: Is Davies close to that level ? to be fair United did call about him. After watching some clips on youtube when he was around that age, they're very different. I think the biggest gap between both in the technical department is in passing in the final third/ vision. Pulisic I believe is already taking corners/set pieces for the senior team so you can tell he's gifted in that part of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 8 hours ago, CUJO said: First Canadian wonderkid ever? I can't think of any Of course, not all wonderkids become great or even good players, I am not getting ahead of myself maybe hoilett? Don't worry kids, YOU can be the next Wyn Belotte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 8 hours ago, koolvid said: He was very technical and setting the US U-17 on fire as if he were a striker with 28 goals in 34 appearance. He drew Dortmund's attention at such a young age for a reason... Wait, he had 34 appearances at the U17 level! For Canada I see our players only having like 8 appearances. Is this because the US just has more money to bring these teams together more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCF08 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 9 hours ago, Dominic94 said: Is Davies close to that level ? to be fair United did call about him. No, Davies is nowhere near the level of Pulisic. Pulisic is an amazing talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Ruffian said: Wait, he had 34 appearances at the U17 level! For Canada I see our players only having like 8 appearances. Is this because the US just has more money to bring these teams together more? Yes, the US U17's spend the year together in Bradenton training and playing friendlies to prepare for the qualifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, SCF08 said: No, Davies is nowhere near the level of Pulisic. Pulisic is an amazing talent. Let's see where Davies is in two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, canta15 said: Let's see where Davies is in two years Exactly. Pulisic was born in Sept. '98 so he's 26 months older than Davies. Summer 2015 Pulisic was playing PDL for Reading before joining the Dortmund U19 program around his 17th bday. Davies will have finished a full MLS season by his 17th bday. Of course that means in the next 18 months Davies has to impress a club of similar stature to Dortmund and then jump right into their starting lineup in the winter of 2018-19 right after his 18th bday and then proceed to kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFisk'sBiggestFan Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 These exact comparisons aren't doing Davies justice. He is a winger, Pulisic is a CM. The skill sets of those positions are completely different. Pulisic is an amazing player and he is very suited to the CM role with great vision and passing. Davies is also an amazing player and is very suited to the winger role with great speed and deception. Saying that Pulisic is a better passer is like saying that davies beats more people 1 on 1. Both are true, but both are more specific to the position they play. Because they play different positions it is very hard to tell who is "better". Davies still needs to develop is final pass but back when Pulisic was Davies age he needed to develop some things too, it just wasn't his passing. Obviously Davies still needs to develop more, but he has time to do that and he has a better opportunity to do that because he is playing at a higher level than Pulisic was. Davies is an incredible talent, and he could get to the level that Pulisic is, but he plays a different position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 1 hour ago, BenFisk'sBiggestFan said: These exact comparisons aren't doing Davies justice. He is a winger, Pulisic is a CM. The skill sets of those positions are completely different. Pulisic is an amazing player and he is very suited to the CM role with great vision and passing. Davies is also an amazing player and is very suited to the winger role with great speed and deception. Saying that Pulisic is a better passer is like saying that davies beats more people 1 on 1. Both are true, but both are more specific to the position they play. Because they play different positions it is very hard to tell who is "better". Davies still needs to develop is final pass but back when Pulisic was Davies age he needed to develop some things too, it just wasn't his passing. Obviously Davies still needs to develop more, but he has time to do that and he has a better opportunity to do that because he is playing at a higher level than Pulisic was. Davies is an incredible talent, and he could get to the level that Pulisic is, but he plays a different position! Pulisic has played well all around the pitch for Dortmund this season. And if you want to be exact, he plays in a center attacking midfielder role (CAM) so he attacks more compared to a regular CM when played in the center Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 I feel like Pulisic's speed is going unnoticed. He is incredibly fast. As fast as Davies is, I don't even know if he's that much faster over 30 or 40 yards than Pulisic is. It would be great for Davies to get into a European first team and have an impact in the next few years. A Davies versus Pulisic rivalry for best young CONCACAF player would ignite the American-Canadian rivalry, which is rather dull at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 If IIRC he' can't transfer till 18 right? Does that include loans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, matty said: If IIRC he' can't transfer till 18 right? Does that include loans? He'll have to show his dominance with the Whitecaps (or could possibly play anywhere in MLS) until November of 2018. It's not the worst thing in the world (great for me because I get to watch him for another season an a half). It will be hard to judge how good he is on a global stage with him playing in MLS but let's hope he's an automatic starter next season in MLS, wouldn't be bad for a 17 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Guys this is a ridiculous comparison. Pulisic is light years ahead of Davies technically. Why do we have to compare Davies to one of the best young players in the world? He isn't at that level. Can we wait until he gets an assist or goal against MLS competition before we compare him to one of better players on a top 10 team in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 There was no comparison by anyone. I just said I hope he becomes a slightly better player (mostly to rub it in the USMNT collective faces) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 44 minutes ago, Obinna said: I feel like Pulisic's speed is going unnoticed. He is incredibly fast. As fast as Davies is, I don't even know if he's that much faster over 30 or 40 yards than Pulisic is. Davies might edge out Pulisic in a 40 yard dash or other speed tests, but I'd take Pulisic in every agility test. Pulisic left Marcelo in the dust in the Champions League two separate times with a head juke and a body feint. Davies hasn't yet shown he's capable of beating defenders with anything but raw burst, that doesn't work against Real Madrid defenders. Hell, it doesn't work in MLS after he starts to tire out. If Davies has 9/10 physical traits, Pulisic has 8.5/10. If Pulisic has 9/10 technical traits, Davies might have 6/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, harrycoyster said: Guys this is a ridiculous comparison. Pulisic is light years ahead of Davies technically. Why do we have to compare Davies to one of the best young players in the world? He isn't at that level. Can we wait until he gets an assist or goal against MLS competition before we compare him to one of better players on a top 10 team in the world? I'm now curious, who are your top 10 teams in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 More ridiculous is why of all the players in the world is he being compared to Pulisic?,,,I haven't watch much of Pulisic but I don't even think they are similar types of players for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 Just now, matty said: I'm now curious, who are your top 10 teams in the world? I was just going off of thier CL finish, but from last season? Real, Barca, Athleti, Chelsea, Tottenham, Man City, Bayern, BvB, Juve, Monaco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, mpg_29 said: More ridiculous is why of all the players in the world is he being compared to Pulisic?,,,I haven't watch much of Pulisic but I don't even think they are similar types of players for comparison. Obviously because his success at a very young age and the fact that he's from s country that has never developed that type of player before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, harrycoyster said: I was just going off of thier CL finish, but from last season? Real, Barca, Athleti, Chelsea, Tottenham, Man City, Bayern, BvB, Juve, Monaco. Awww alright. Thought it was maybe based off something else. Like I'd put like 8 of those in mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 2 hours ago, harrycoyster said: Davies might edge out Pulisic in a 40 yard dash or other speed tests, but I'd take Pulisic in every agility test. Pulisic left Marcelo in the dust in the Champions League two separate times with a head juke and a body feint. Davies hasn't yet shown he's capable of beating defenders with anything but raw burst, that doesn't work against Real Madrid defenders. Hell, it doesn't work in MLS after he starts to tire out. If Davies has 9/10 physical traits, Pulisic has 8.5/10. If Pulisic has 9/10 technical traits, Davies might have 6/10. I'd probably give Davies a 7/10, but otherwise yes I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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