Watchmen Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, costarg said: It isn't a stretch to have a RB or CB fill in for a while, we've seen it loads of times. The Whitecaps are down to basically one right back (Brown is playing but Gaspar is out injured and Nerwinski is hurt and being used sparingly) and 3 center backs since Cornelius has been loaned out. So while the proposal of using a CB or RB to fill in for a time seems reasonable at first, it's really not in this case. Edited July 13, 2021 by Watchmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, costarg said: No offence, but Whitecaps are 2-7-3, you really think their biggest issue is losing a LB for a couple of weeks? Although I do admit its a busy part of the season, they aren't the only ones impacted by GC. CFM have Bassong playing CB. It isn't a stretch to have a RB or CB fill in for a while, we've seen it loads of times. Asking CANMNT to risk their tournament and not let a player practice a new system with new teammates and possibly show up to a game on a moments notice? I'm pretty confident CANMNT is at least 51% responsible for this decision. I'd also bet money Guti wanted to be with CANMNT. With Ali Adnan gone, Nerwinski just coming back from injury, Gaspar out with an injury, their only fullbacks are Guti and Brown. Losing Guti means they have 0 LBs as Nerwinski has no experience on the left and Godoy only ever played RB when not at CB. im sure @GlassCitycan comment on this more. Edited July 13, 2021 by N1ckbr0wn johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 We do need a LB in the side. If it was any other position we could let it slide but not having a natural LB option leaves us tactically handcuffed. Personally, I would start Gutierrez in a lineup similar to what we played vs. Bermuda with Pasher in front of him and Buchanan at RWB. Cavallini and Larin start up top and you have a midfield 3 of Eustaquio, Piette and Osorio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Watchmen said: The Whitecaps are down to basically one right back (Brown is playing but Gaspar is out injured and Nerwinski is hurt and being used sparingly) and 3 center backs since Cornelius has been loaned out. So while the proposal of using a CB or RB to fill in for a time seems reasonable at first, it's really not in this case. Ahh i see, I didn't realize Gaspar was also out. Thanks, but this raises the question.... who the hell is managing all this??? They ship Adi & Cornelius while they know there's a strong chance Guti gets called by CANMNT imminently, and they have all these injuries? Questions need to be asked about the organization....... N1ckbr0wn and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 BUT.... Super Super Russ. RE: Guti. It sucks he won't be immersed into the squad as he absolutely deserves it but I think this suits all parties and is common sense. Think of this like when the "A" players could join the squad in the latter stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 guti should play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Watchmen said: This feels more like the Whitecaps have no other left back options and requested they not take him until it was an extreme emergency. I'm not sure how Gutierrez would like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Watchmen said: This feels more like the Whitecaps have no other left back options and requested they not take him until it was an extreme emergency. I'm not sure how Gutierrez would like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Marc Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Similar to Miller and a few others left behind for WC86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 I thought Guti was excellent last night, and Baldisimo was quite strong as well dyslexic nam, johnyb and Acid-Tone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northvansteve Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Aird25 said: I thought Guti was excellent last night, and Baldisimo was quite strong as well Best game as a pro. Guti was terrific. Rock solid defensively and stopped every attempted dribble past him. On the attack, he was fantastic with precision passes. And then his dead ball delivery - best I have seen from a Canadian player in a long time. His confidence is growing every game. NVsoccer, Corazon, Craig11rm and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig11rm Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Northvansteve said: Best game as a pro. Guti was terrific. Rock solid defensively and stopped every attempted dribble past him. On the attack, he was fantastic with precision passes. And then his dead ball delivery - best I have seen from a Canadian player in a long time. His confidence is growing every game. I have to agree. This was one of the best games I’ve seen the whitecaps play in a long time. I wish Caicedo would make better decisions though… seems like he ignored Guti’s overlapping runs every time and tried to force something himself. I think it was last game against Huston Guti hit a direct free kick off the top corner of the near post that was almost inch perfect… then a few minutes later from basically the same position he whipped in a super dangerous cross toward the far post that just needed a touch but like 3 whitecaps players missed it by inches. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Aird25 said: I thought Guti was excellent last night, and Baldisimo was quite strong as well No doubt! I also loved their FK combo's that resulted in pinpoint deliveries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 He has to be on a plane tomorrow to the GC camp. Especially now that Canada has lost a defender. CanadaFan123, Corazon, Aird25 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, VinceA said: He has to be on a plane tomorrow to the GC camp. Especially now that Canada has lost a defender. Not sure he will be. Henry will be a straight swap for vitoria and sturing is on the bench. Would be a great experience though, especially if he got a few minutes against Mexico. He has trained with the team before hasn't he? If not and based on today and Herdman not giving Paton any minutes, I doubt he would be thrown in not being in and around the squad, its tactics etc. Probably better to keep him playing for Vancouver this week. red card and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cronaldo7 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 With steady performances in the MLS, do we face a threat of Chile caping him? I genuinely don’t know their depth chart when it comes to LB so I’m curious if this is an actual danger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 hours ago, VinceA said: He has to be on a plane tomorrow to the GC camp. Especially now that Canada has lost a defender. With 2 suspensions he has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, cronaldo7 said: With steady performances in the MLS, do we face a threat of Chile caping him? I genuinely don’t know their depth chart when it comes to LB so I’m curious if this is an actual danger Pretty sure he filed his one-time switch already. cronaldo7, An Observer, toontownman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, Obinna said: Pretty sure he filed his one-time switch already. He filed a change of association, but if we don't ever play him, he can switch back. Shway, cronaldo7 and johnyb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 9 hours ago, maplebanana said: He filed a change of association, but if we don't ever play him, he can switch back. Is that so eh? Never knew that's how it worked. I thought the one-time switches were final, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Obinna said: Is that so eh? Never knew that's how it worked. I thought the one-time switches were final, no? It's only us (I think) that refer to it as a 'one-time' switch. FIFA calls it a 'change of association': Reference: FIFA in January 2021, Article 9, Paragraph 5: "5. A player that was: a) granted a change of association; and b) was not fielded in a match in any (official or unofficial) competition in any kind of football by the new association, may request a change of association back to his former association provided he continues to hold the nationality of such association." https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf Grandbloke and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, maplebanana said: It's only us (I think) that refer to it as a 'one-time' switch. FIFA calls it a 'change of association': Reference: FIFA in January 2021, Article 9, Paragraph 5: "5. A player that was: a) granted a change of association; and b) was not fielded in a match in any (official or unofficial) competition in any kind of football by the new association, may request a change of association back to his former association provided he continues to hold the nationality of such association." https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/ccab990abf45fcf6/original/ro8mje8vw98yp3rvfbmi-pdf.pdf Well in that case we need to get him cap tied. By rights he should be in this Gold Cup squad as far as I am concerned. Maybe he comes in for the September window, but with Adekugbe also playing well I don't see us carrying both of them. We can probably get by with nether of them to be honest, with Laryea and Tajon showing they can play well on the left. That said though, I want to make sure we tie down Cristian. Just way too talented not to be part of this group. PegCityCam, Northvansteve and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 If you did want to move Tajon to CF, Guti could fill in at LWB pretty seamlessly I think. Maybe they don't like his crossing. I haven't seen many balls floated in the box other than dead ball situations, although he could help with that side too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 "Old" news but this from sbnation on his play vs LAFC: ...and this little piece on his progression: https://btsvancity.com/2021/07/22/nice-surprise-cristian-gutierrez-and-javain-brown-quietly-emerging-as-valuable-full-back-options-for-vancouver-whitecaps/ Craig11rm, Nate3322, Kadenge and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 He’s quietly been one of, if not the best Whitecap this year. He really should have a call up or 5 by now. Obinna and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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