Dominic94 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Corazon said: ZBG has 1 goal and 2 assists in 3 MLS seasons. With 1 goal and 1 assist coming in the first 3 games of this season. Yes, he has shown some attacking flair in a couple games this season but he has been far from an attacking threat as an outside back in his first couple of seasons with Montreal. Perhaps under a the new coach, we see more in attack going forward. As for depth chart, excluding Davies: Laryea is by far our best outside back. I would probably put Adekugbe second but only slightly ahead of Gutierrez, ZBG & Johnston in which I all see similar levels. I think you need to actually watch him play costarg, HochelagaFC and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: I think you need to actually watch him play I do watch regularly. He's been fantastic going forward this year but has lacked the end product in previous seasons. 1 assist in 2 seasons doesn't scream attacking flair as an outside back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Corazon said: I do watch regularly. He's been fantastic going forward this year but has lacked the end product in previous seasons. 1 assist in 2 seasons doesn't scream attacking flair as an outside back. I would blame it more on Montreal, his final product does need work yes, but he certainly has the instincts and brings it forward a ton. Kadenge, costarg, Corazon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: I would blame it more on Montreal, his final product does need work yes, but he certainly has the instincts and brings it forward a ton. That is my impression as well - though I admit I haven’t seen a ton of impact games over the last 2 years. But when I did watch, he looked generally effective and creative, and plays often broke down as a result of mistakes by others. Not saying he has been stellar but I am usually pretty happy with his game. Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 lets wait and see, guti hasn't played for canada yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 4/25/2021 at 5:04 PM, Ivan said: He has definitely had an impressive start to the season, but I don't think think he starts ahead of Adekugbe yet. Nice to have some added depth though! You might fall in love with him if he kills it for canada, potential wise he has more than Adekugbe. Adekugbe is just proven N1ckbr0wn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 His crossing is excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 His coverage is lacking. Hasn't been closing down his man quickly enough, and a lot of crosses come in from this side. It's what happened tonight against Minnesota, which lead to the goal. Cornelius not covering his man was the other half of the problem. masster and TGAA_Star 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Watchmen said: His coverage is lacking. Hasn't been closing down his man quickly enough, and a lot of crosses come in from this side. It's what happened tonight against Minnesota, which lead to the goal. Cornelius not covering his man was the other half of the problem. Yeah, not sure what Cornelius was doing whenever the ball came in from the wings. It was like he was zone marking (and not well) but was the only one doing so. A few times he moved into a space rather than sticking tight to his man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Is out with an adductor issue. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Is out with an adductor issue. Means he might be out....depending on the severity, those don’t heal over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 That's a shame. At least there is a month break now. Will almost certainly rule him out of the qualifiers but hopefully back for Gold Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 5/23/2021 at 12:02 AM, Shway said: Means he might be out....depending on the severity, those don’t heal over night. There is no mention of him still being injured. I think he will be in the Whitecaps squad tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: There is no mention of him still being injured. I think he will be in the Whitecaps squad tomorrow. He played in the most recent friendly in Utah, so he's good to go. johnyb and Olympique_de_Marseille 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Great to read he's healthy. He needs to be in our Gold Cup squad imo. Trois Reds, Shway and Ruffian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Apologies if this was posted elsewhere (I haven't had the time to go through all of the threads): https://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/cristian-gutierrez-officially-added-to-canada-s-gold-cup-roster This was the point of interest for me: "Gutiérrez will remain training and playing MLS matches with Whitecaps FC unless called upon for Canada." The headline makes it sounds like he'd be joining the team, but he's basically on standby. How do we feel about that? I very much rate Gutierrez, so part of me wants him to be with the group, gaining familiarity and obviously making his debut. I guess there is value in him staying in Vancouver if he's not going to play much though. Shway, narduch, Corazon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 50 minutes ago, Obinna said: I guess there is value in him staying in Vancouver if he's not going to play much though. Perhaps the club really pleaded their case to Herdman and set up this arrangement. I wonder how Guttierez feels about it? Obinna and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BearcatSA said: Perhaps the club really pleaded their case to Herdman and set up this arrangement. I wonder how Guttierez feels about it? Guti said in an interview that he wanted call-ups. Does Herdman not rate him now that he has had him in camp? Su Mind Room solo funciona en inglés y no en español. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Guti said in an interview that he wanted call-ups. I think he'd want to be in the camp in person and not just as a taxi squad guy flying in from Salt Lake City, Chris Pozniak-style (***if you are reading this, Chris, hope all is going well in the coaching world). nolando and Addona 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 He should be there with Canada. He’s playing well ! He’s a really good LB. Come on Herdman stop being an idiot. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Obinna said: Apologies if this was posted elsewhere (I haven't had the time to go through all of the threads): https://www.whitecapsfc.com/news/cristian-gutierrez-officially-added-to-canada-s-gold-cup-roster This was the point of interest for me: "Gutiérrez will remain training and playing MLS matches with Whitecaps FC unless called upon for Canada." The headline makes it sounds like he'd be joining the team, but he's basically on standby. How do we feel about that? I very much rate Gutierrez, so part of me wants him to be with the group, gaining familiarity and obviously making his debut. I guess there is value in him staying in Vancouver if he's not going to play much though. This smells a lot like CANMNT thinking "maybe we can save ourselves a few bucks here, one hotel room less, one less flight and at least a few big macs and croissants." Addona, SpecialK, sebdeserio and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 hours ago, costarg said: This smells a lot like CANMNT thinking "maybe we can save ourselves a few bucks here, one hotel room less, one less flight and at least a few big macs and croissants." This feels more like the Whitecaps have no other left back options and requested they not take him until it was an extreme emergency. Floortom, Ruffian, DavemTFC and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1ckbr0wn Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Watchmen said: This feels more like the Whitecaps have no other left back options and requested they not take him until it was an extreme emergency. This is what it is Obinna, toontownman, johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 It's the balancing act of playing nice with clubs while also trying to get their best players in the middle of their season. Given how Tajon has performed at LWB, I'm not really worried anymore. Between him and Pasher, that should be adequate for the rest of the tourney. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 9 hours ago, Watchmen said: This feels more like the Whitecaps have no other left back options and requested they not take him until it was an extreme emergency. No offence, but Whitecaps are 2-7-3, you really think their biggest issue is losing a LB for a couple of weeks? Although I do admit its a busy part of the season, they aren't the only ones impacted by GC. CFM have Bassong playing CB. It isn't a stretch to have a RB or CB fill in for a while, we've seen it loads of times. Asking CANMNT to risk their tournament and not let a player practice a new system with new teammates and possibly show up to a game on a moments notice? I'm pretty confident CANMNT is at least 51% responsible for this decision. I'd also bet money Guti wanted to be with CANMNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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