jpg75 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 "I got a "bonus" handed to me in a plain envelope by a shady looking guy. He said "good job letting in between 5 and 7 goals"." Next tweet "How do you delete these things?" nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Uhh I get that he’s eccentric but come on man! Don’t even joke about that. If there is one player the CMNT can’t afford to lose its Borjan. We could literally manage any other loss. Obinna, romurra, nolando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/4/2018 at 2:55 AM, BenFisk'sBiggestFan said: As a side note, there was a nice little moment near the end of the game where Borjan let out a little smile after a wonderful free kick goal by Neymar. He couldn’t help but admire the goal it seemed. He really seems to be enjoying his experience playing against the best in the world, and he doesn’t seem out of place. Hopefully the smile was not for meeting the conditions of the bonus... Very stupid tweet about the bonus if Red Star are being investigated. But too stupid to be legit, so I will consider it an ill-considered tongue and cheek tweet until such time as proven otherwise. Edited October 12, 2018 by BCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 This seems like a lot of speculation based on one tweet. From all accounts, Borjan was the only player who did well on his team (despite the scoreline). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenFisk'sBiggestFan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 24 minutes ago, BCM1555362349 said: Hopefully the smile was not for meeting the conditions of the bonus... Very stupid tweet about the bonus if Red Star are being investigated. But too stupid to be legit, so I will consider it an ill-considered tongue and cheek tweet until such time as proven otherwise. Like Borjan could have actually controlled the game by letting in goals and stopping goals... all the goals were unstoppable. Basically, whatever was stoppable, he stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, BenFisk'sBiggestFan said: Like Borjan could have actually controlled the game by letting in goals and stopping goals... all the goals were unstoppable. Basically, whatever was stoppable, he stopped. He didn't even move for the last goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kohanz Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 30 minutes ago, Obinna said: He didn't even move for the last goal. Never happened before to a keeper. Case closed. Guilty of match-fixing. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, kohanz said: Never happened before to a keeper. Case closed. Guilty of match-fixing. ? I don't think there's anything to it. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, jpg75 said: "I got a "bonus" handed to me in a plain envelope by a shady looking guy. He said "good job letting in between 5 and 7 goals"." Next tweet "How do you delete these things?" Were those tweets from soon after the game? I assume they weren't from today or something. Regardless of the tweets, I don't like the sounds of this. Even if he is innocent, the investigation is happening because they think a Red Star official placed a 5 million Euro bet. So this doesn't sound like a case of some mobsters with a few players in their pocket. This alleged match fixing could have been coming from the top, within the club. That's not a good environment to be in, even if he's clean. Like Vince193, I wonder if maybe he was left off the Canada roster because they knew about the investigation. At the time I assumed it was a sign they intended to cap tie Busti. But now I'm a bit worried. I don't want to crucify him with no evidence, but let's also not pretend we are immune to this sort of thing. Let's not forget the 1986 Merlion Cup, which no doubt played a role in us getting shut out in the World Cup. Edited October 12, 2018 by Kent My trusty fact checkers Blackdude and aloyol have corrected me. The tournament happened after the World Cup, not before it. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kent said: I don't want to crucify him with no evidence, but let's also not pretend we are immune to this sort of thing. Let's not forget the 1986 Merlion Cup, which no doubt played a role in us getting shut out in the World Cup. It didn't play a role since it happened after the World Cup. RS and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It’s one thing that an outside party was involved or the club itself Now if Borjan was approached himself and he accepted an offer well then that’s a different story. Lets see what happens, there clearly is some truth to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kent said: Were those tweets from soon after the game? I assume they weren't from today or something. Regardless of the tweets, I don't like the sounds of this. Even if he is innocent, the investigation is happening because they think a Red Star official placed a 5 million Euro bet. So this doesn't sound like a case of some mobsters with a few players in their pocket. This alleged match fixing could have been coming from the top, within the club. That's not a good environment to be in, even if he's clean. Like Vince193, I wonder if maybe he was left off the Canada roster because they knew about the investigation. At the time I assumed it was a sign they intended to cap tie Busti. But now I'm a bit worried. I don't want to crucify him with no evidence, but let's also not pretend we are immune to this sort of thing. Let's not forget the 1986 Merlion Cup, which no doubt played a role in us getting shut out in the World Cup. Didn't the Merlion Cup happened after the 1986 WC? I think we had our full squad in Mexico 1986 and some of our best players were suspended after the Merlion Cup. Also, not of the same, but we were recently involved in another scandal (luckily none of our players were involved) when we played Macedonia in 2009. IIRC, the ref, from Bulgaria I think, called a high number of PK's in the game. FIFA investigated and the ref was banned. Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, Blackdude said: It didn't play a role since it happened after the World Cup. Oops! I tried to confirm that, but it's hard to find details. I should have read more thoroughly (or just looked up the 1986 World Cup roster) but didn't make the time to do it. You are right. My point otherwise remains. We aren't immune to match fixing scandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
to70 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The factor whether it has any influence on him is what league his dad is involved with http://canadiansoccerleague.ca/brantford-galaxy-sc/#clubdata I'm sure most of the people on this forum know what that league is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Come on. Do you think someone who accepted a bribe wound tweet it out? Anyone who puts any credence in that being true isn’t really using their head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, An Observer said: Come on. Do you think someone who accepted a bribe wound tweet it out? Anyone who puts any credence in that being true isn’t really using their head. Not sure, but it doesn't look good on him. Many online have latched onto the fact that he was seemingly smiling and shrugging at teammates after the 6-1 goal. Then you go online and make a comment like that..? If this Red Star official roped players into his scheme then SURELY as keeper Borjan was approached.. Let's hope he turned it down and he was low-key snitching on the official.. chances are he had knowledge so why else joke about it? If he was involved then we have seen the last of him for Canada.. but I just really don't think that's the case. Otherwise, this is truly insane. Edited October 13, 2018 by Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just when you think you've seen it all as a Voyageur.... Soju, MtlMario and Obinna 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 21 hours ago, Keegan said: Let's hope he turned it down and he was low-key snitching on the official. This is/was my hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I saw that result and looked at stats and there were like 21 shots on goal, he made over a dozen saves. That was enough for me. And now this BS. Today they had the whole game on repeat but I couldn't watch, I would have like to. At Red Star they have the highest salaries in Serbia, the idea that extra cash from losing to a European powerhouse would be a tempation is insulting. The real motivation, and knowing all top Balkan players, is to make a leap to a stronger league, and you do that by holding Naples, a high scoring team, scoreless at home. I find the whole thing upsetting and do not believe he was involved in any way, in the least. Blackjack15, Red and White, Strait Red and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) On 10/14/2018 at 5:31 PM, Unnamed Trialist said: At Red Star they have the highest salaries in Serbia, the idea that extra cash from losing to a European powerhouse would be a tempation is insulting. The real motivation, and knowing all top Balkan players, is to make a leap to a stronger league, and you do that by holding Naples, a high scoring team, scoreless at home. I find the whole thing upsetting and do not believe he was involved in any way, in the least. Good post, I do think the defending did look suspect at times, but hard to know based on the quality/talent of PSG. If somehow this was true, and some of the players were involved, it's important to read between the lines (the players would not have done it for the $). If the details about an active investigation started pre match regarding a 5-7 goaline, unfortunately that naturally raises some serious eyebrows and concerns. I do agree though, based on the number of stops Borjan made, hard to really say he had anything to do with it, if the allegations are in fact true. Edited October 16, 2018 by apbsmith Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 10:39 PM, Keegan said: Not sure, but it doesn't look good on him. Many online have latched onto the fact that he was seemingly smiling and shrugging at teammates after the 6-1 goal. Then you go online and make a comment like that..? .... I didn't read it as anything more than a bit of gallows humour. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I honest can’t see it. He had 21 shots on net and let in 6. Borjan was the best player on their roster that night. They were totally outclassed. I stand behind Borjan on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 If you had stood behind him, it might have been less than 6... jpg75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I’m smaller guy than Borjan so it wouldn’t have helped. ? shorty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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