Unnamed Trialist Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 They beat Mallorca 2-0 the week Ballou signed, and went top, into a direct promotion spot. Since then: Scoreless draw. Scoreless draw. 1-0 loss to Cadiz, a leading team in the league. 1-0 loss to Gimnàstic de Tarragona, last place team in the league. No goals in 4 games, and an new outside attacker has played the tail end of one of those games, no more. No ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Is it time to worry that maybe he isn’t that good ? Chad_Impact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: Is it time to worry that maybe he isn’t that good ? Uhh.. no? Obinna, Addona, jpg75 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Lol, the guy's still a teenager ffs. shamrock, Addona, Obinna and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: They beat Mallorca 2-0 the week Ballou signed, and went top, into a direct promotion spot. Since then: Scoreless draw. Scoreless draw. 1-0 loss to Cadiz, a leading team in the league. 1-0 loss to Gimnàstic de Tarragona, last place team in the league. No goals in 4 games, and an new outside attacker has played the tail end of one of those games, no more. No ambition. Obviously the only reason a team can lose is because a lack of ambition. Makes total sense. Two teams enter the field, one has ambition and the other just lacks it, hence the result. Addona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, shamrock said: Obviously the only reason a team can lose is because a lack of ambition. Makes total sense. Two teams enter the field, one has ambition and the other just lacks it, hence the result. You are deliberately being obtuse, your prerogative. I have mentioned not expecting to promote this season, selling key players in the winter window, not using all subs when losing, not scoring at all in a month and then Ballou not dressing when he's an outside attacking option they said they'd been following since MLS. So it's an interpretation based on evidence and data. You're the one being puerile about it. JuicyHam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Sometimes teams do not have the money to promote and can risk bankruptcy if the added revenues of playing in the 1st division do not match the added expenditures especially if the team already has some debt. I don't know the specifics of Albacete but it could be the case that the team does not really want to promote. They aren't necessarily throwing games but they may also not be giving 100% to win promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 19 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: You are deliberately being obtuse, your prerogative. I have mentioned not expecting to promote this season, selling key players in the winter window, not using all subs when losing, not scoring at all in a month and then Ballou not dressing when he's an outside attacking option they said they'd been following since MLS. So it's an interpretation based on evidence and data. You're the one being puerile about it. No it is your argument that is flawed. I conceded that the club might not want to promote for a bunch of reasons. But still coaches and players want to win games. I've never heard of a coach deliberately throwing games. There's a difference between the club level and the technical group. The latter just want to win all games (although realizing they probably won't). The "lack of ambition" of the club which can be true (again, I don't know) doesn't mean a coach will purposely lose games. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Obinna and apbsmith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Chad_Impact said: I mean he does need playing time but like he shouldn’t be there over Akindeke for example. Blackjack15, deschamp86 and LeoH037 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Dominic94 said: I mean he does need playing time but like he shouldn’t be there over Akindeke for example. Tabla has close to 1000 minutes of playing time this season even if most of it has been at 3rd division level and he hasn't played much since his switch to 2nd division. Not to mention that he is in the system of arguably the top team in the world. Akindele scored a nice goal in his first game with Orlando but otherwise had a fairly quiet game and is coming off a poor season and has only played 98 minutes so far in the season although that is also due to the MLS season just starting. Plus his main position is centre forward even if he can also play on the wings and it seems like that is where Orlando intends to play him. I hope he gets his career back on track and starts challenging for selection as a centre forward where his competition will be Cavallini, Larin, hopefully a resurgent AJH and possibly David though he looks like he will be a number 10. I don't see any reason to consider Akindele an obvious selection though that should definitely be chosen over Tabla. At 19 playing in the second division in Spain (apparently the strongest second division in the world according to some Voyageurs LOL) and in the Barcelona system I still see him as a much more attractive prospect and deserving of selection than a guy turning 27 in a couple of weeks even if he is able to get his career back on track (although in a weird coincidence they actually share a birthday so Tabla will turn 20 on the same day - March 31st). LeoH037, Blackjack15 and SkuseisLoose 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakmur Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I'm not the biggest Ballou fan, but i'd pick him before Akindele for sure. Akindele will be 30 in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Shakmur said: I'm not the biggest Ballou fan, but i'd pick him before Akindele for sure. Akindele will be 30 in 2022. Not that I would pick Akindele over Ballou (although Akindele should be considered if he continues to play and product in the MLS). I think they're referring to this upcoming Nation's game vs French Guiana and possibly the upcoming Gold Cup. The logic doesn't make sense if a player has earned it. Do we not call up Arfield because he's going to be 34 in 2022? Like I said I prefer Tabla and I don't think the two games that Akindele has played with a new team isn't enough to earn a spot into this months squad. But if he continues to play and hes earned it then absolutely he should be considered, regardless of his age. Grandbloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 If he is not playing lately, you can't call him up. The only player I'd give a nod like that to is Leutwiler, there are plenty of top keepers for their countries who are on the bench for the club. That is that though. I don't think we'll go for Leutwiler though, having Crepeau nearby. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: If he is not playing lately, you can't call him up. The only player I'd give a nod like that to is Leutwiler, there are plenty of top keepers for their countries who are on the bench for the club. That is that though. I don't think we'll go for Leutwiler though, having Crepeau nearby. Best leave phonzie out then. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, toontownman said: Best leave phonzie out then. Phonzie is in the 18 of a top club in the world, just a little different ya know ? toontownman and Blackjack15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: Phonzie is in the 18 of a top club in the world, just a little different ya know ? Man. Not even 5 minutes of pedantic peace. El Hombre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, toontownman said: Best leave phonzie out then. Maybe. Edit. Thing is, more than half of Bayern is away for the Fifa window, whereas Spanish 2nd division plays. Edited March 12, 2019 by Unnamed Trialist toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 The playing vs not playing debate I think is just one factor to go along with many other factors when deciding who to pick for the national team. It really shouldn't be as black and white as "If he is not playing lately, you can't call him up." Especially for a country in our position in the world. If we were strict about not calling people that aren't playing regularly (and as a result, also out of contract players) then we would probably (at least in the last 10 years, hopefully not going forward) have to resort to calling up players at a L1O/PLSQ/U-Sports level to fill in for a benched Hoilett, Arfield, or Davies. As great a story as George Pakos is, I don't think we should make that our game plan. Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Well sometimes that opportunity to get away with the national team can boost their club chances. A good international experience could lift the player up mentally, a great performance could heighten there stock and get the club manager thinking. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Could Tabla move to Ajax? http://www.football-oranje.com/barcelona-and-ajax-in-talks-over-partnership/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Obinna said: Could Tabla move to Ajax? http://www.football-oranje.com/barcelona-and-ajax-in-talks-over-partnership/ My opinion: that sort of deal never works. What if Ajax does not like the player? Or the fact that Barça has enough money to go anywhere, not just Ajax, to pick up players? In any case, they are both in the last 8 of Champions, the level of quality is there, but not enough to justify a sort of big brother-little brother relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 4:57 PM, Obinna said: Could Tabla move to Ajax? http://www.football-oranje.com/barcelona-and-ajax-in-talks-over-partnership/ Sure - why not start a partnership with every single small market team and get right of first refusal for every player in the planet? It's not like Barca doesn't already have right of first refusal on most players from Ajax! this is silly - Ajax already have a "special" relationship but that doesn't mean they want to give a discount on transfer fees to their "special" Catalan partner. Meanwhile, Barca just want to load up their stable and then loan out underachieving players until they figure out which ones will be superstars? I thought Chelsea were also well on their way to doing that. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I’m surprised we didn’t see him sub in last night. I hope he’s part of the U23 team! That team has the potential to win a medal at the Olympics if they use our best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 28 minutes ago, SpecialK said: I’m surprised we didn’t see him sub in last night. I hope he’s part of the U23 team! That team has the potential to win a medal at the Olympics if they use our best players I was more surprised to not see Millar. I guess we're in for more of these surprises as our player pool gets stronger and tough decisions have to be made on playing time. dyslexic nam, Northvansteve, apbsmith and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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