Ruffian Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Blackjack15 said: He's just not the same player he used to be. How do you know this? He hasn't played. I would not be surprised if he finds some playing time and he is called right back into the national team camp. shermanator, Fullback, king1010 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: The fact that he signed with an EPL club means that some people who know a whole lot about footy saw some qualities suggesting he could be an elite player. It was a worthwhile move by the club. Lots of potential, probably not too expensive a signing in relative terms, and maybe Big Sam got a bung out of it via Cyprus, who knows? But all kidding aside, I hope he gets the injury problems solved so he can fulfill that promise. As jonovision says, based upon this Gold Cup and the other evaluations, he definitely could be in the mix if he gets healthy and playing regularly again Edited July 19, 2017 by BearcatSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 People often have this reaction. I haven't seen this player play in a long time, therefor he is much worse than he used to be. It doesn't seem to matter if it's due to injuries, switching to a lower visibility league, or even that they were always in a lower visibility league but it's been a while since they played for a youth national team or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kent said: People often have this reaction. I haven't seen this player play in a long time, therefor he is much worse than he used to be. It doesn't seem to matter if it's due to injuries, switching to a lower visibility league, or even that they were always in a lower visibility league but it's been a while since they played for a youth national team or something. The interesting thing is that he is still immersed in a pro footy culture. As much as watching footy on TV is not enough to make you a good player, it does help you evolve your understanding of the game. Shitty fitness levels aside, in some ways I am a better player now than I was at 25. Late bloomer to be sure, but you do develop a greater understanding of the game as time goes on. For Henry, the immersion in a pro environment could still be growing some of those skills that assist in game-reading/understanding - and interestingly it is those skills that often help a defender get better. Not saying he is in any way better off, but it is possible that the last 3 years haven't been a complete write off. If nothing else, West Ham would want to ensure some growth to help protect their investment - even if just to sell him to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Doneil has too much upside still to be written off of the CMNT at this time. Not too mention many of us feel that CB is our worst position. Floro thought enough of him to play him at RB (which most of us could have told him that was disaster waiting to happen) but keep him in the middle of the pitch with Vitoria beside him when Doneil is healthy and he can definitely play for this squad. He is 24 years old and still has lots to give. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Question is if he'll ever get fit again. Every time he tried to come back he suffered another major injury. Must be getting in his head as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just for reference - is it a recurring thing, a couple of recurring things, or a bunch of semi-unrelated stuff. I ask because that can mean either chronic issues that can limit a career (ie. Ledley King) or just some really, really shitty luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Henry sighting! Walking and doing community service, but still no sign of playing. lazlo_80, Fussball_eh and Red and White 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 If he gets another loan out this year he essentially becomes at worst our 5th option at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Looks who is in the lineup! I think that must be Doneil Henry? hamiltonfan, Red and White and SpecialK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ruffian said: Looks who is in the lineup! I think that must be Doneil Henry? https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/korrey-henry/profil/spieler/503675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 No man he's on the bench for a pre-season friendly against a non-league club. 7th or 8th Division that plays in the Isthmian_League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Blackjack15 said: No man he's on the bench for a pre-season friendly against a non-league club. 7th or 8th Division that plays in the Isthmian_League look at the picture above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 29 minutes ago, canta15 said: look at the picture above Yes I know I posted that like a minute after he uploaded the photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 OK, maybe this is actual Doneil Henry news Source seems legit. Hopefully. maccaliam, Red and White, Blackjack15 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Seems to have enough legs they are discussing it on Hull City fan forums: http://www.not606.com/threads/city-transfers-summer-2017.348315/page-579 They don't seem too thrilled with his injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Ruffian said: Seems to have enough legs they are discussing it on Hull City fan forums: http://www.not606.com/threads/city-transfers-summer-2017.348315/page-579 They don't seem too thrilled with his injury history. Not shocked by that. I think most fans would be bummed out that. Should be a decent move for him as long as he doesn't break his leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, matty said: Not shocked by that. I think most fans would be bummed out that. Should be a decent move for him as long as he doesn't break his leg. This is a great move. If he can get some great playing time and show his skills , it will open up options for next year. Also Hull could win the champions league and get back to EPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Also Hull could win the champions league and get back to EPL. Or maybe they could win the World Cup! But seriously they don't look like they are Championship contenders this year with their start to the season. Edited August 21, 2017 by Ruffian Addona, Kent, maccaliam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Any move where Henry can actually stay healthy for 6 weeks and get regular minutes is one he needs to consider. Addona, Blackjack15, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 hours ago, shermanator said: Any move where Henry can actually stay healthy for 6 weeks and get regular minutes is one he needs to consider. Yeah maybe Championship is even too high at this point. He didn't last long in Denmark which is nowhere as physical as the Championship. Could have been bad luck, wish the kid could just stay healthy and play for year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, shamrock said: Yeah maybe Championship is even too high at this point. He didn't last long in Denmark which is nowhere as physical as the Championship. Could have been bad luck, wish the kid could just stay healthy and play for year. I don't think he went down with an ACL injury due to the physicality of the league. ACL injuries are more likely done just by a player pivoting on the knee than actual contact. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 One of the most common knee injuries comes from shooting/kicking the ball not warmed up. Putting too much power into dead ball kicks ect... We see the twisting as the primary cause and it certainly can be, however it often isn't. It may be from something done earlier. I can't remember where the study was, I think Italian third division that split the all the teams into two groups controlling how they warmed up. Subsequent data crunching showed that the knee injuries were tied to warm ups both in a causal nature itself (ie shooting not warmed up) and how the type of warm up affected the player in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Several cruciate injuries are about timing: just the right amount of torque with the ligament at just the right angle and POP! Vikings' QB Teddy Bridgewater simply pivoted and his knee gave out during a non-contact drill. It was that easy. And I have seen incredible hyperextensions that resulted in an MCL sprain and no other damage. I wish Doneil good luck on the comeback trail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: Several cruciate injuries are about timing: just the right amount of torque with the ligament at just the right angle and POP! Vikings' QB Teddy Bridgewater simply pivoted and his knee gave out during a non-contact drill. It was that easy. And I have seen incredible hyperextensions that resulted in an MCL sprain and no other damage. I wish Doneil good luck on the comeback trail! Right, but what the study implied was that there is more to it and you are sort of confirming that. Given it was spread out over ten teams on each side, you could surmise they had a similiar number of injury potential events over the course of a seasdon. But one side of the fence reduced knee injuries across ten teams by 40%. It was a significant number. However, how do you distinguish between doing things that lead to an injury vs doing things that help prevent one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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