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Switzerland & Ireland are in the World Cup. Iceland, Wales & Scotland are out.

Portugal makes the playoffs with Chinese Taipei, Thailand, Cameroon, Senegal, Haiti, Panama, Chile, Paraguay & Papua New Guinea. 3 will make the World Cup next February.

 

In friendlies, basically Real Madrid defeated the US 2-0. For the 15 Spanish players who refused to play, this win gives the Fed the upper hand. It's too bad the Fed asked these players to accept their mistake and ask for forgiveness before they can return as if they were 10 year old girls.

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1 hour ago, red card said:

Switzerland & Ireland are in the World Cup. Iceland, Wales & Scotland are out.

Portugal makes the playoffs with Chinese Taipei, Thailand, Cameroon, Senegal, Haiti, Panama, Chile, Paraguay & Papua New Guinea. 3 will make the World Cup next February.

 

In friendlies, basically Real Madrid defeated the US 2-0. For the 15 Spanish players who refused to play, this win gives the Fed the upper hand. It's too bad the Fed asked these players to accept their mistake and ask for forgiveness before they can return as if they were 10 year old girls.

You're reading of the situation is totally mistaken and disrespectful through and through.

Winner was scored by a FC Barcelona player. 

Spanish sports law would have allowed the Federation to directly sanction the rebel players and apply a harsher ban. Which they did not do.

It was a great match from the team, with some stellar performances and especially, in the 2nd half, attacking a team that was trying to come back. It also proves the quality of Vilda, who drew Sweden and beat the States with a makeshift B team.

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59 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

You're reading of the situation is totally mistaken and disrespectful through and through.

Winner was scored by a FC Barcelona player. 

Spanish sports law would have allowed the Federation to directly sanction the rebel players and apply a harsher ban. Which they did not do.

It was a great match from the team, with some stellar performances and especially, in the 2nd half, attacking a team that was trying to come back. It also proves the quality of Vilda, who drew Sweden and beat the States with a makeshift B team.

You would have a better reading from the Spanish perspective. But it does seem Vilda was whistled when he was introduced today.

From the English world perspective (UK, US & Canada), the media, fans & players are lumping the Spanish issue in with all the other issues facing women's soccer from NWSL workplace problems to equal pay. On Vilda, the media is a bit more nuanced than the fans given his success with the youth teams.

The American ESPN broadcast said today that you don't want to ever cheer against your national team but in support of the 15 players, you want to see Spain lose. If it was 15 male players that did the same, the Spanish Fed wouldn't have responded in the same manner.

ESPN article post match: It also must be said that the problems in Spain are serious, and the dichotomy of them in the wake of the Yates report in the U.S. is disturbing...Neither Vilda nor the Spanish federation are hiding from clear retaliation against some of the best players in the world. What's worse, they might not even recognize it as such. 

Writer Grant Wahl: Obviously, there’s a giant problem there, and the Spanish federation’s strategy of infantilizing the players and refusing to meet with them is of a piece with the unwillingness to engage serious matters that we saw from American soccer officials in the Yates Report. This has to stop.

Sauerbrunn: If 15 of the best players in the world wanted to share feedback I’d respect them enough as people and players to take their concerns seriously.

Rapinoe: It’s uncomfortable to know the just general level of disrespect for women’s teams and women’s players around the world.

 

Span started 7 Real Madrid players today. One more came on as a sub. 

 

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4 hours ago, red card said:

Portugal makes the playoffs with Chinese Taipei, Thailand, Cameroon, Senegal, Haiti, Panama, Chile, Paraguay & Papua New Guinea. 3 will make the World Cup next February.

The draw is Friday.

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/articles/draw-for-the-play-off-tournament-for-the-fifa-womens-world-cup-2023-tm-to

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10 hours ago, red card said:

You would have a better reading from the Spanish perspective. But it does seem Vilda was whistled when he was introduced today.

From the English world perspective (UK, US & Canada), the media, fans & players are lumping the Spanish issue in with all the other issues facing women's soccer from NWSL workplace problems to equal pay. On Vilda, the media is a bit more nuanced than the fans given his success with the youth teams.

The American ESPN broadcast said today that you don't want to ever cheer against your national team but in support of the 15 players, you want to see Spain lose. If it was 15 male players that did the same, the Spanish Fed wouldn't have responded in the same manner.

ESPN article post match: It also must be said that the problems in Spain are serious, and the dichotomy of them in the wake of the Yates report in the U.S. is disturbing...Neither Vilda nor the Spanish federation are hiding from clear retaliation against some of the best players in the world. What's worse, they might not even recognize it as such. 

Writer Grant Wahl: Obviously, there’s a giant problem there, and the Spanish federation’s strategy of infantilizing the players and refusing to meet with them is of a piece with the unwillingness to engage serious matters that we saw from American soccer officials in the Yates Report. This has to stop.

Sauerbrunn: If 15 of the best players in the world wanted to share feedback I’d respect them enough as people and players to take their concerns seriously.

Rapinoe: It’s uncomfortable to know the just general level of disrespect for women’s teams and women’s players around the world.

 

Span started 7 Real Madrid players today. One more came on as a sub. 

 

Why do you think what Foudy or Wahl have to say about the issue has any validity? I find them baseless, and worse, they've been complicit as press and public figures for at least a decade with the situation in the US and have barely lifted a finger or raised an objection. 
So instead of admitting their role in silencing abuse in the States, they hop on to the Spain cause. But are not able to articulate anything coherent. They harp about Spain to make it seem that the States is not the only scandal happening. But they are unable to explain any detail at all.

Worse: the day Vilda and Spain had arguably their best win, with the players celebrating effusively on the field, madly, meaning it meant a lot to all of them, this issue has to be insisted on. To cover the weakness of the US team, and to denigrate the merits of the players vs the US and Vilda.

Even the repeated phrase that the Spanish federation called on them to apologize before they would be re-admitted as NT players. This may not have been worded that well, but Spanish law, and I am talking about law, not internal regulations, requires a Spaniard to respond to a call from a national team. Refusal to play can result in a rather serious set of sanctions and a player can be banned. So law and its application in hand, the RFEF could have been far stricter. In fact, by putting in terms of apology and admission they are wrong, they are letting the players off the hook of a harsher sanction that could leave all of them out of the World Cup. 

The American geniuses did not address the fact that the best player in the world, Putellas, is not amongst the 15. Irene Paredes did not sign either, apparently because she was burnt out by being a leading voice in a previous tiff. Both, true, have said they support their teammates. So lo and behold, a few players have saved their butts and could still go to the World Cup, without having to admit any wrong or apologize, while the women who spoke up would be left off. The degrees of solidarity are iffy.

By the way, it is simply false that the RFEF statement infantilises them, other players who have refused call-ups have equally been treated this way, but usually they are individual examples (Oleguer Presas, the Barça CB who did not feel Spanish, refused to go with Spain).

We still have not said anything about what was wrong with Vilda.

In Spain we have seen the league players go on strike, not playing for various fixtures, for better pay and conditions. We've seen various cases of women on clubs complaining about poor training conditions or verbal mistreatment, such as at Rayo Vallecano just last year. We have seen the refs striking this year. When there is something wrong, in the last few years, voices are raised. So many clubs discriminated their younger women, in ways that were absurd quite often (paying for the boys to come train from a distance, but not for a young woman living in the same town to do the same), and so much of that is being redressed.

Everyone is proactive, speaks up, and then there are negotiations where the conditions and terms are debated in detail. No one holds anything back. 

The email saying they would not play does not call for Vilda's head, nor does it even mention him. Why then are the US pundits referring to Vilda when the email makes no reference to him? Then you see people saying he's a bully, or a dictator, or a pervert, with no base at all. Worse: if he is any of those things, which have not been corroborated or even stated beyond insinuation (and in fact some players have backtracked saying they did not ask for Vilda's head), what do we say about the 23 women at the current call-up? Are you saying that these professional players are going in spite of risking abuse, mistreatment, bullying, dictatorial manners, perversion? It does not hold water.

The real case here has to do with the core group of major players, most at FCB, calibrating the issue incorrectly. The players got the previous coach fired after the Canada WC. The Barça players got Cortès fired after he led them to a Champions League, the only one (that IMO was totally unfair and the club should not have accepted that pressure). Now they are onto Vilda. It is a pattern that I find repugnant, since in each case insinuation and character assassination are couched in terms of "we need a programme that can give us success, if we stay this way we can't achieve that". Not recognising their responsibility in achieving success. 

There's another thing: they are playing off the US situation, feeding off it, but only in spirit, not in substance. It is a sort of emotional connection, which is fine and may have a fundamental ground, but that gets mixed up with direct cases of sexual abuse, for example. That is character assassination, it is cheap, unfair and repugnant. I find it totally mistaken, as I did when the FCB players forced Cortès out. It goes nowhere, it has no future in football. Which is why I support the federation and Vilda, this latter only because if he'd resigned it would have been an admission of some unnamed guilt. That is witch-hunting mentality, it can't be accepted.

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14 hours ago, narduch said:

Is CBC covering the NWSL playoffs?

 

Radio-Canada has been streaming NWSL matches for about 2 years - probably about 1-2/month. This weekend, they'll be showing Dash v Current. They also stream D1 France matches - again about 1/month.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/sports/horaire-diffusions

In English, NWSL is available for free on twitch if on P+ in the States. If on CBSSN, it has been at times geoblocked on twitch as CBSSN is available on Bell's tv platform.

 

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YouGovAmerica poll puts US women's team as the most popular soccer team in Q2 2022. The team is also the highest in terms of fame. It appears popularity is calculated based on having a positive opinion and have heard of.

It's followed by the US men's team, Man U, FCB and for some reason Chicago Fire (it is rated by Baby Boomers & women at #3). Reflecting that the US is more national team focused than many other countries, 4 of the top 10 are national teams.

No other women specific team is in the 54 listed teams. Other national teams listed are Italy at #7, Brasil at #10 & Mexico at #13. And surprisingly all 3 Canadian MLS teams make the list with TFC at #19, Caps at #40 and CFM at #53. 

Of the non-US leagues, Bundesliga leads with 8 with Bayern the highest at #23. The Prem is second with 6. Cruz Azul leads 5 ligaMX clubs by being listed at #30. PSG is the only ligue 1 club at #37. la Liga only has 2 clubs listed.

This list doesn't fully reflect US tv ratings as liga MX & the Prem are the most watched leagues. It doesn't reflect attendance for national teams as Mexico gets the biggest numbers, followed by US men and then US women. Going by national team kit sales, Mexico is the largest seller in the US.

https://today.yougov.com/ratings/sports/popularity/soccer-teams/women

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Germany defeated US 2-1 in Florida.

US 71-game home unbeaten streak is snapped. 

US has lost three straight games for the first time since 1993.

US has conceded multiple goals in three straight games for the first time since 2001.

Both M/W US senior teams haven't won in their new kits yet.

 

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Went to the Barça-Bayern group stage match for Women's Champions League, at Camp Nou: 46,967 through the turnstiles, which is a record for the CL group stage. And suprising for a 6:45 start on a weekday. 

3-0, comfortable win and total domination, nice to see some players I hadn't seen, Keira Walsh, Geyse the Brazilian striker. Stanway for BM did nothing.

Unlike last spring when the club gave us club members free entrance, just paying fees, for the quarter final and semis in CL, this time we were charged, though I paid 11 each for premium seats. Non-club members paid about 50% more, so the club brought in maybe 600-700 thousand in gate. The Alexia shirt continues to be a big seller in Barcelona.

Seems the club will also put the final group stage match vs. Rosengard in Camp Nou a few days before Christmas, with part of proceeds going to Xmas charity causes.

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10 hours ago, rkomar said:

Wouldn't that be 6-7 hundred thousand in gate?

Corrected, thanks.

It is always hard to figure out gate at Camp Nou because we members don't often pay for individual matches. For Rosengard I see they'll charge us a euro, plus fees, and give the euro to charity, while non-members with pay 10-15 each.

Still, the revenue for the women is rising exponentially, which is good for Barça, as perhaps the women would not have to be run on a deficit anymore (we run a slight deficit with basketball, handball, roller hockey, all pro). But this rise in revenue and signing capacity is not necessarily being matched by other teams in Spain, so the gap is widening in some ways. The hope is that other women's teams will also get inspired and draw better, especially Real Madrid, Bilbao, Levante, Atlético, the big ones. In many ways, you could seriously argue that the idea of a SuperLeague would make more sense for the women in Europe, just on a competitive-financial level. 

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Another report came out about the abuses in the NWSL - this one was done by the NWSL and the players union.

It included about 220 interviews of past and present players, players’ union leaders, club staff members, league leadership and staff, and U.S. Soccer personnel over 14 months.

The report found that the NWSL was so dysfunctional that coaches freely harassed and abused players while management either missed or ignored signs that players were being mistreated. The report gave descriptions of sexual abuse, unwanted sexual advances, emotional abuse, cronyism, racist remarks, the blurring of professional boundaries and retaliation of players who complained about how they were treated.

Kaleigh Kurtz, a defender on the Courage was silent about her abuse. She dared not come forward to say that Paul Riley had made her feel uncomfortable by inquiring about her sex life and describing what sexual positions he preferred.

Or that Riley, in 2019, switched between flirting with her and then telling her she was chubby, she said, once advising her to lose 14 pounds in 10 days if she wanted to keep her starting position, “because I love you.” 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/14/us/nwsl-report-abuse.html

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FIFA names Alexia Putellas of Barcelona as best women's player again.

Best GK is Mary Earps of Man United (Labbe was there to present award).

Best coach is Wiegman of England National Team. 

Best 11 has 4 English players, 2 Spanish and 1 each from Chile, France, Germany, Australia & USA.

 

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