Obinna Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 No 4-4-2. Keep our system as is and replace Haber with Occean. --------------------------------Larin/Occean------------------------- Akindele/Tissot----------------------------Issey/Ricketts/REB ------Johnson/JDG---Hutch/Osorio----Teibert/Pacheco --------------------------------Piette/Straith-------------------------------- De Jong/Morgan------------------------------Henry/Ledgerwood ---------------Jakovic/Ouimette----Edgar/Hainault--------------- --------------------------------Borjan/Stama---------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree that the 442 goes against what we've been doing and what seems to fit our players best but at some point we have to go for broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 No 4-4-2. Keep our system as is and replace Haber with Occean. --------------------------------Larin/Occean------------------------- Akindele/Tissot----------------------------Issey/Ricketts/REB ------Johnson/JDG---Hutch/Osorio----Teibert/Pacheco --------------------------------Piette/Straith-------------------------------- De Jong/Morgan------------------------------Henry/Ledgerwood ---------------Jakovic/Ouimette----Edgar/Hainault--------------- --------------------------------Borjan/Stama---------------------------------- nailed it. would love to see this roster in camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I agree that the 442 goes against what we've been doing and what seems to fit our players best but at some point we have to go for broke. go for broke. or as floro calls it. "andre hainault" time Brethers8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 go for broke. or as floro calls it. "andre hainault" time An error occurred You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 go for broke. or as floro calls it. "andre hainault" time Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 No 4-4-2. Keep our system as is and replace Haber with Occean. --------------------------------Larin/Occean------------------------- Akindele/Tissot----------------------------Issey/Ricketts/REB ------Johnson/JDG---Hutch/Osorio----Teibert/Pacheco --------------------------------Piette/Straith-------------------------------- De Jong/Morgan------------------------------Henry/Ledgerwood ---------------Jakovic/Ouimette----Edgar/Hainault--------------- --------------------------------Borjan/Stama---------------------------------- Why bother replacing Haber? Why not play them both at the same time? I mean, if we're going to have 12 players on the pitch at once, whats one more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Issey won't be starting for us over Ricketts. Not sure why this keeps coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Why bother replacing Haber? Why not play them both at the same time? I mean, if we're going to have 12 players on the pitch at once, whats one more The Gold Cup was traumatic for me, okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Issey won't be starting for us over Ricketts. Not sure why this keeps coming up. That was my own personal bias showing. Plus he can actually dribble so I thought Floro might approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The Gold Cup was traumatic for me, okay? No judgement from me bro, like a young musically gifted highschool graduate class, we're all i this together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 He is destroying Dortmund's defence at this time,...was involved in the current 3-1 ahead for his team SHOULD START as lone striker vs Belize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingback6 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Look OO flatters to deceive. By all means call him up. But be prepared to get the OO of EF and not the OO of GF, or Kickers. He is a good finisher. But so is Larin, and we have seen how he struggled in the GC. Why? Because the problem isn't our finishing, it's creating enough chances, and providing service. So call up OO, but don't expect him to score. And if you are going to call him up, might as well just keep Larin in because he prob won't score against decent opponents either, but at least he's 20 and has years to learn how to adapt and find ways to make chances. You OO koolaid drinkers forget the fact that Int'l games are few and far between. If we were talking a league team, then by all means, throw in the vet. But every time you take the easy route of putting in a guy like OO, or in the more recent history De Ro, you set back the progress of the team as a whole. If we only play 12 games in two years... is it worth it to mortgage our future for the chance that the present will be better? And again, we're only talking a chance, not a guarantee. And once again. It's a service issue, not a finishing issue, no point in bringing in another finisher, if he ain't going to get the service. Larin, Haber, REB, Ricketts, at least they can beat guys on the dribble, and play in the middle of the field. OO can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 God I don't even know where to start with this.... First of all, calling in OO means we have two strikers that can finish insteas of one (Larin). How anyone can spin that as a negative is beyond me. It takes a special kind of person to ignore the logic that two good strikers are better than one. Second - yes our problem is creating chances. That has no baring on whether or not OO deservers a call. Next... Thirdly, this whole "don't mortgage the future for a chance that the present will be better" comment is not only WAY off the mark....it's actually 180 degrees opposite from what makes sense. We are in WCQ, what makes sense is to play the best NOW regardless of age. This belief that we should always play youth over experience with an eye to a brighter future is a fantasy that took off after we lost 8-1. Yes a bit of that is good but people like you get way to extreme and become lost in dream world. Come back down to earth my friend and see the situation for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Lmao thank you for picking out the flaws in wingbacks post and saving me the time for having to do so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Thanks Obinna! I'm not sure why some posters feel the need to ridicule us (the group who wants to see Floro call OO)? No one is expecting OO to act like a saviour but ignoring one of our most in form player at the moment (do we have 3 MNT players who are in better club form than OO?) is ridiculous. Just give him a chance, something Floro said every players would have when he came in, and see what he can bring to this team. What do we have to loose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAVIERF Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Look OO flatters to deceive. By all means call him up. But be prepared to get the OO of EF and not the OO of GF, or Kickers. He is a good finisher. But so is Larin, and we have seen how he struggled in the GC. Why? Because the problem isn't our finishing, it's creating enough chances, and providing service. So call up OO, but don't expect him to score. And if you are going to call him up, might as well just keep Larin in because he prob won't score against decent opponents either, but at least he's 20 and has years to learn how to adapt and find ways to make chances. You OO koolaid drinkers forget the fact that Int'l games are few and far between. If we were talking a league team, then by all means, throw in the vet. But every time you take the easy route of putting in a guy like OO, or in the more recent history De Ro, you set back the progress of the team as a whole. If we only play 12 games in two years... is it worth it to mortgage our future for the chance that the present will be better? And again, we're only talking a chance, not a guarantee. And once again. It's a service issue, not a finishing issue, no point in bringing in another finisher, if he ain't going to get the service. Larin, Haber, REB, Ricketts, at least they can beat guys on the dribble, and play in the middle of the field. OO can't. my name is Xabier Françoià je suis argentin and a fan et supporter pour l'Canada mon amis. What i get from you, man, is that you clearly are a francophone hater, so typical, a classic guy who wants to get rid of anything that is french. So lets get out from les rouges of Olivier Occèan out, Hainault, Lafebvre, Teibert, Tissot , Ouimette and anyone with a Montreal frenchie taste. Shame on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 my name is Xabier Françoià je suis argentin and a fan et supporter pour l'Canada mon amis. What i get from you, man, is that you clearly are a francophone hater, so typical, a classic guy who wants to get rid of anything that is french. So lets get out from les rouges of Olivier Occèan out, Hainault, Lafebvre, Teibert, Tissot , Ouimette and anyone with a Montreal frenchie taste. Shame on you! Okay, I used to take you seriously but you are quite clearly a troll. A francophone hater lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Okay, I used to take you seriously but you are quite clearly a troll. A francophone hater lmao. At least Javier rant was funny while Wingback post was rather pathetic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingback6 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Obinna you can have a hundred strikers who can finish, but it won't help much if there are no chances. Which is our problem, we don't create enough chances. Our existing player pool have all scored against the same level of international opposition as OO, and are at least five years younger. So whose spot should he take then? Simeon Jackson comes to mind, but at least he can play on the wing, as can Tesho, Ricketts and REB. Haber is a solid target man and dribbler, and has proven he can score against higher level opponents in Iceland and Guatemala. So whose spot should he take? And more importantly, what does that do to the chemistry of the team? There is a bit more to it than simply calling up every player that is on a hot streak. You have to consider how he is going to fit in with the coaches system, and with the abilities of the other players. Do you see OO battling in the trenches when things aren't going well? Do you think he's expected to do that for his club? No, and No. OO's hot streaks have always occurred within a kind of environment that he is not going to get from Canada. I don't think this is even an argument. Our other players at least have some versatility. So if we can't offer him what he needs to succeed and be an asset to the team, then should we just gamble that it might work out? OO struggled in the 1. Bundesliga for the same reasons that he is something of a liability at the highest level. He is a poacher and a finisher. They're great to have if you can afford them. But based on the players we have to pick from, we can't. And this isn't even mentioning his bad attitude, the childish hot dogging against St. Lucia, the temper, and calling out an 'amateur' coach whose current team is sitting pretty several places above us, I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Not having players who can provide him service is a stupid reason to not call him up. The rest of the team sucks so lets not call up our best poacher. Makes sense. Who should he replace? Bekker. Jackson. Pacheco Chemistry. Wtf. What chemistry do we have. We scored zero goals in the gold cup. You call up your in form players. Occean battling in the trenches? His best attribute is his hold up play. And this isnt hockey. We arent calling up players to "battle in the trenches" He struggled in bundesliga and is a liability at high levels? NO SHIT. our whole team would struggle at that high level. The fact that occean got that chance means he was of the quality. Our 4th round wcq isnt going to be b1 quality. The fact that "you dont even think this is an argument" is mind blowing. Theres not even a point of debating this with you. Did occean steal your gf? Sounds like it. Edited August 22, 2015 by king1010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 OO = Mr. Steal Your Girl... amazing banner idea Brethers8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 OO = Mr. Steal Your Girl... amazing banner idea Goal poacher and girl poacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Goal poacher and girl poacher. So, Occean fucks with his cock? Call him up then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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