Stoppage Time Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 According to Tony Fonseca, Ethan Finlay is not eligible for the CMNT. The reason for this is confidential and will not be discussed by the CSA. Does anybody here have a way to investigate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Source? His dad is canadian. Hes never represented the US NT. Maybe he isnt eligible now of course. But he can easily get his passport. I think we all know right now he doesnt have a passport and isnt eligible. This isnt breaking news. EDIT: this is your first post. Sounds fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 No fish here, mate. Actually, while I have been away from this board since the last cycle, I have posted about 200 times in the past. I've just joined again. Anyway, as to source, it's Fonseca himself. Do your own asking if you wish. Alternatively, perhaps a media type will ask some questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Over the years, first posts with juicy tidbits have come from about 80-90% good sources (often brothers or fathers or cousins or old teammates of the players) and 10-20% rabblerousers with a bone to pick. Translation: first posters are not necessarily unreliable posters. Perhaps in this case there is really private bit like adoption or a criminal record or something on the part of the father. Unlikely sounding but who knows, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 No fish here, mate. Actually, while I have been away from this board since the last cycle, I have posted about 200 times in the past. I've just joined again. Anyway, as to source, it's Fonseca himself. Do your own asking if you wish. Alternatively, perhaps a media type will ask some questions. So hes not eligible. We knew this. He doesnt have a passport at the moment. Or are you saying he is never ever going to be eligible for us. And if thats the case, why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Not to read too much into this but if it was as simple as a passport/citizenship application issue then OP/Fonseca would have said "not currently eligible." I agree with Nolando, there could be extenuating circumstances that are personal in nature that are preventing this from happening, obviously the CSA and Finley have looked into it. Maybe his father gave up his citizenship and that's affected something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 https://twitter.com/ethanfinlay13/status/609323154641653761 How's about this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 https://twitter.com/ethanfinlay13/status/609323154641653761 How's about this too He's obviously explored the idea of playing for Canada otherwise we wouldn't have this thread but that doesn't stop the guy born in the US from cheering them on. See JDG2 at BMO for the Centenial match in a Canada jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 He's obviously explored the idea of playing for Canada otherwise we wouldn't have this thread but that doesn't stop the guy born in the US from cheering them on. See JDG2 at BMO for the Centenial match in a Canada jacket. Lmfao. That will go down in cdn soccer folklore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Lmfao. That will go down in cdn soccer folklore. As the largest kick in the nuts in CanMNT history? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I asked Rollins for some clarification and he basically said that Harper changed the rules. Having a CDN parent isn't enough anymore you need to live in the country for five years. I assume someone like Cristante who has a passport got his before the regime change. https://twitter.com/24thminute/status/612264945409986561 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I asked Rollins for some clarification and he basically said that Harper changed the rules. Having a CDN parent isn't enough anymore you need to live in the country for five years. I assume someone like Cristante who has a passport got his before the regime change. https://twitter.com/24thminute/status/612264945409986561 That does not seem to be correct unless his Canadian father was not a Canadian citizen at the time of his birth. Even immigrants with no prior connection to Canada can apply after 4 years under the new more restrictive laws recently passed by the Harper government. I oppose the Harper government and the new immigration laws as much as anyone but lets try to be accurate. Here are the citizenship laws: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules/ and an article explaining the recent changes: http://www.straight.com/news/645271/if-bill-c-24-passes-canadian-citizenship-will-be-harder-get-and-easier-lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Grizzly is correct. I oppose the Grizzly and the Grizzly's posts as much as anyone but he is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 So, is it that Finlay's father was not born in Canada? I will admit to being completely bamboozled here. If Marc Bircham could play due to a Canadian grandfather, and FIFA allows players to choose based on heritage, then there must be something deeper here. I do wonder at the CSA secrecy though. I am pretty certain that the CSA has explored every option here, but it would be nice to get clarification unless, of course there is information which is truly not our business. Of course, I should read the link provided by Grizzly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Grizzly is correct. I oppose the Grizzly and the Grizzly's posts as much as anyone but he is accurate. LOL. Good one. It is total speculation but it could have something to do with adoption or non-biological parent. And if he was not considered a Canadian at birth then he also has to satisy FIFA Eligibility Requirements: Any Player who ... [assumes] a new nationality and who has not played international football [in a match ... in an official competition of any category or any type of football for one Association] shall be eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfills one of the following conditions: (a) He was born on the territory of the relevant Association; (b His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant Association; © His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant Association; (d) He has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant Association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^^^ But why would the CSA say they are not willing to speak about it, if its something realistically not feasible (i.e option B. where he's potentially adopted). Other than that, I wonder if its something to do with the dad, and him having his citizenship revoked or something (because this is what we speculate about)..,.,this doesn't make sense or the new Harper law is that extreme. I thought being a dual citizen who was born in Canada and lives in the USA as an American citizen would be "fine" or somewhat to an "advantage" considering the cross border relationship, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Something doesnt add up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Something doesnt add up here. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Something doesnt add up here. Kinda like how apparently Finlay's dad won a NCAA hockey championship with North Dakota which doesn't seem to be true either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Kinda like how apparently Finlay's dad won a NCAA hockey championship with North Dakota which doesn't seem to be true either. That's right. Ed's boss was on that team and when he asked him he didn't remember a Finlay on the team. Maybe he made up being Canadian too? But why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 That's right. Ed's boss was on that team and when he asked him he didn't remember a Finlay on the team. Maybe he made up being Canadian too? But why? There's no Brent Finlay listed on UND's hockeydb page for 81-82 or 82-83. Ethan's Creighton bio says that his dad one a national title with UND in 82, odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 There's no Brent Finlay listed on UND's hockeydb page for 81-82 or 82-83. Ethan's Creighton bio says that his dad one a national title with UND in 82, odd. Maybe his dad is actually Ogie Oglethorpe who was refused entry back in to Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 That's right. Ed's boss was on that team and when he asked him he didn't remember a Finlay on the team. Maybe he made up being Canadian too? But why? Hmmm... Maybe it was a ploy to get JK's attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hmmm... Maybe it was a ploy to get JK's attention? No, this info. was on Ethan's player profile at Creighton U. as far back as 2008. I'd bet Ethan was told these things by his dad growing up and repeated them to the people at Creighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I don't mean to be "that guy", but I had asked Ethan on twitter a few years ago about representing Canada and he said he was open to the possibility however there was an issue. He had DM'ed me about it which is why I did not feel comfortable posting it on here so maybe the best thing to do is to have someone ASK him about his eligibility issues. Sorry for being so vague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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