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18 hours ago, jpg75 said:

As a dual citizen he could have played NASL prior to turning 18. 

I don't know the reasons, but I read in an Armada season preview that he was not able to play NASL until he turned 18.  Can try to find the link somewhere.

Jason

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37 minutes ago, Jason said:

 Can try to find the link somewhere.

This? http://www.armadafc.com/roster/chaim-roserie

"...he has not be eligible to play in official matches for the Armada FC until clearance is received from FIFA due to the fact that Roserie has been a minor. He has, however, continued to train with the team and is available to compete in friendlies."

38 minutes ago, Jason said:

Jason

We know you're Jason. It's your username.

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That makes no sense. A citizen of a country can play for a club in that country at any age eg. Alphonse Davies, Tabla, Hundal etc. Unless Roserie is not a US citizen yet?

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On 7/15/2015 at 0:45 PM, IceCreamMan said:

Per Steven Sandor's twitter he's turned down a Canada U17 call up to go to an American camp.

On 7/15/2015 at 9:27 PM, stevensandor said:

Jacksonville is over the moon about this kid.

What American camp did he ever go to? 18 months later, he never featured in any US camp at the U-17 or U-20 level as far as I can find. Declining the Canadian U17 invitation may have been a big mistake. The 2017 CONCACAF Under-20 Championship starts in a month&a½ and it would seem to be his last chance to play for any national team if he is actually any good. As a '98 he will be too old for the next one and seems likely to fall into obscurity.

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On 9/13/2016 at 11:03 PM, BCM1555362349 said:

I doubt we'll ever hear much from him ever again to be honest. Good luck, no returns. 

I was right.

1 hour ago, Vince193 said:

Apparently he's in college now, according to Aaron Nielsen.

You are correct. With the mighty junior college Titans - http://www.efsctitans.com/sports/msoc/2017-18/bios/roserie_chaim_qr11.

Racked up quite a few assists in that 11-2 win.

For more of the non-story, see https://twitter.com/_croserie?lang=en

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1 hour ago, Blackdude said:

 

Yes, it's NJCAA Division 1. 

No, see my post above. It's junior college division 1 (which used to mean very little, and likely still does). I think @yothat  was meaning actual university level division 1.

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Usually junior college is somewhere you go to get your marks up enough to be eligible for a scholarship. Considering he's been training with a pro club as a teen I sort of doubt he was planning for going the college route.  This keeps him in Jacksonville.  Wonder if he is unwilling to move or this is the only option he has?  If unwilling to move, he is severely limiting his options.

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1 hour ago, BCM1555362349 said:

No, see my post above. It's junior college division 1 (which used to mean very little, and likely still does). I think @yothat  was meaning actual university level division 1.

That's what I said. 

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3 minutes ago, shermanator said:

Man, remember when people were pissed when he came out and said he didn't want to play for Canada? How the tables have turned, now he's nowhere good enough for even the U-20's.

This kid's head was probably bigger than his talent. I feel stronger than ever that he was never good enough for a spot at TFC.

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8 hours ago, Blackdude said:

That's what I said. 

Mate, do you think everyone on the board knows NJCAA? The question was whether it is division I, as in ncaa. The answer is no.

Junior college leagues are regionally based. Division I and II means very little in terms of competition (and unless things have changed recently, there isn't even a D III in men's soccer). In fact the only difference is DI scholarship can provide room and board whereas DII can only provide tuition but not R&B. It's not really an indicator of quality in soccer (contra football and basketball). Most, not all, but most of the historical JC soccer schools are DII and simply rely on local recruits. Most junior colleges based in urban centres don't have R&B, hence they're DII.

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2 minutes ago, BCM1555362349 said:

Mate, do you think everyone on the board knows NJCAA? The question was whether it is division I, as in ncaa. The answer is no.

Junior college leagues are regionally based. Division I and II means very little in terms of competition (and unless things have changed recently, there isn't even a D III in men's soccer). In fact the only difference is DI scholarship can provide room and board whereas DII can only provide tuition but not R&B. It's not really an indicator of quality in soccer (contra football and basketball). Most, not all, but most of the historical JC soccer schools are DII and simply rely on local recruits. Most junior colleges based in urban centres don't have R&B, hence they're DII.

Did yothat mention NCAA? No he didn't. If you see the J, it's clear what I meant. Now, if you saw the extra J, you may have understood that it wasn't NCAA, but you have to explain myself that I was wrong by saying it's NJCAA Division 1 which is true. So, yes it's division I in the place he's playing. Plus, you already mentioned before that he was at a junior college. I know it's hard for you to undesrtand that I wasn't wrong. 

It's like if I said is The S-League division 1? And you said no it isn't because the Premier League is better. That's pretty much the same thing we're arguing about. Now, let's top arguing about it.

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You're quite the wordsmith @Blackdude. I doubt @yothator many others even knew there are divisions in junior college (and the differences between them, which are very different to the differences between NCAA divisions), but agree it's not worth arguing about.

Now the interesting question - if one cares about this guy - is with real Div I programs in and around the Jacksonville area (and some excellent Div II programs which consistently produce professional players) why did CR select a junior college? Grades? Cheaper tuition (there's not enough scholarships in soccer)? No other offers? There's no sit out/waiting period when transferring in NCAA soccer, so curious selection of schools to continue academic and athletic development. Anyway, like I said last year (or earlier), we'll never hear of him again so I am not too bothered.

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For the record, I have no idea what Junior college is, but when @Blackdude said it was NJCAA I knew exactly what he meant and it even told me that it is in fact a separate thing from NCAA, as opposed to a certain type of school within the NCAA system.

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