Atiba Hutchinson

[JuicyHam 463]

37 minutes ago, GlassCity said:

 

Well the way Larin is scoring he's worth all that and more. I wonder if Atiba is just loyal to the club at this point and took less money to fit their financial struggles 

[JamboAl 1,694]

He's getting the loyalty discount.  I really think Atiba loves life in Istanbul and even though he doesn't speak much Turkish, his kids do.   I don't think he's hurting for money and chances are, he'll retire at the club.

[Obinna 8,658]

500k euros is still a lot of money as well. There are many footballers who never see that salary even in their best years, let alone at 37. 

[SpursFlu 2,702]

I could see Atiba turn to coaching. He hast that certain posture. I hope he's fully involved in qualifiers and if he can't still go in 22, be added to our coaching staff 

Edited November 24, 2020 by SpursFlu

[jordan 3,422]

and Another one

 

 

[Kadenge 2,116]

Besiktas are seriously under paying this guy. 

[Obinna 8,658]

I am seriously starting to think Atiba could reach 300 appearances with Besiktas. He is already on 262.

Playing 300 games for a single club probably puts you in "statue" contention.

I wonder where he ranks on all-time appearances for the club? I wouldn't be surprised if he has played the most games as a foreigner. 

Edited December 4, 2020 by Obinna

[Bison44 6,086]

Havnt they just been bringing him back on smaller and smaller 1 year deals??  Less money isnt as important as all the other intangebles at this point in his life.    

[Cheeta 1,763]

^ I'm under the distinct impression that Hutch stopped working for a living YEARS ago.

We all should be so lucky one day.

[JuicyHam 463]

10 minutes ago, Obinna said:

I am seriously starting to think Atiba could reach 300 appearances with Besiktas. He is already on 262.

Playing 300 games for a single club probably puts you in "statue" contention.

I wonder where he ranks on all-time appearances for the club? I wouldn't be surprised if he has played the most games as a foreigner. 

 

[Unnamed Trialist 5,813]

So he's the fully foreign player, with no Turkish background, with most matches for a single club in Turkey.

Since he came a bit late that number is not that high, if he'd had 10 full seasons he'd be over 400.

 

[Addona 501]

This guy is absurd ... no one tell him that he's about to turn 38.  Jesus.  Incredible.

 

[Bertuzzi44 1,927]

Assuming Atiba makes himself available, which 2 do you play and who do you sit between Hutchinson, Osorio, Eustaquio, Kaye, Piette and Arfield? Good problems to have!

[TOCanada115 86]

30 minutes ago, Bertuzzi44 said:

Assuming Atiba makes himself available, which 2 do you play and who do you sit between Hutchinson, Osorio, Eustaquio, Kaye, Piette and Arfield? Good problems to have!

My person opinion, Kaye, and Piette. 
 

Eustaquio, Hutchinson, Arfield are automatic. If they play a 4-2-2-2, or 4-4-2 diamond, then I think Osorio gets the last spot. Herdman rates him, and has played very well in big club/country games over the last 4 years. Very good passer, and doesn’t give the ball up. Also has improved significantly on the defensive side of the ball. 

[Unnamed Trialist 5,813]

1 hour ago, Bertuzzi44 said:

Assuming Atiba makes himself available, which 2 do you play and who do you sit between Hutchinson, Osorio, Eustaquio, Kaye, Piette and Arfield? Good problems to have!

I'd play Hoillet always, and I personally believe anyone who does not get this is dumb. 

For me I'd put Larin or Cavallini up high. 

David in the midfield but behind the striker.

One pure wing on the right, Davies. No such thing on the left. Unless he shifted to the left upon occasion.

Rest of midfield: Arfield, Hoillet and Atiba. 

Yes, a 4-3-3, sort of.

[costarg 649]

1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

I'd play Hoillet always, and I personally believe anyone who does not get this is dumb. 

For me I'd put Larin or Cavallini up high. 

David in the midfield but behind the striker.

One pure wing on the right, Davies. No such thing on the left. Unless he shifted to the left upon occasion.

Rest of midfield: Arfield, Hoillet and Atiba. 

Yes, a 4-3-3, sort of.

I agree with most of this, but we just gotta find a spot for Eustaquio.  Not sure about Hoilett in the midfield in a 4-3-3.  Defensive duties aren't really his thing. 

That lineup sounds like more of a 4-2-4.

[Bertuzzi44 1,927]

I was just talking about our CM/CDMs. That's why I left wingers like Davies, Hoilett, etc, off the list

[BrennanFan 2,462]

Atiba is rolling back the years and lighting it up precisely because he stopped travelling the world to play for us. Instead, he's had time to heal, rest, and recharge with his family. 

He could help us, but if we're being honest we "need" him less today than ever before, and if he wants to extend his club career as much as possible, he needs to not play for us more than ever. We must learn to win without him sooner or later, so why not just let our GOAT legend retire now on his own terms?

[Addona 501]

4 minutes ago, BrennanFan said:

Atiba is rolling back the years and lighting it up precisely because he stopped travelling the world to play for us. Instead, he's had time to heal, rest, and recharge with his family. 

He could help us, but if we're being honest we "need" him less today than ever before, and if he wants to extend his club career as much as possible, he needs to not play for us more than ever. We must learn to win without him sooner or later, so why not just let our GOAT legend retire now on his own terms?

This is fair ... guess I should go change my projected lineup for our first opening round match of the 2026 WC.

[Alex 1,012]

3 hours ago, BrennanFan said:

Atiba is rolling back the years and lighting it up precisely because he stopped travelling the world to play for us. Instead, he's had time to heal, rest, and recharge with his family. 

He could help us, but if we're being honest we "need" him less today than ever before, and if he wants to extend his club career as much as possible, he needs to not play for us more than ever. We must learn to win without him sooner or later, so why not just let our GOAT legend retire now on his own terms?

I agree with this, but then I think going out on his own terms might mean playing in a Canada jersey with one last shot at what has eluded him since 2006 qualifying. 

[LeoH037 1,322]

Pretty nuts, when we crashed out of the last cycle we were for sure certain that we had seen the end of Atiba in WCQ... yet the way he is still playing, good chance he might have one more cycle in him. If Canada makes 2022, Atiba needs to be part of the squad on some shape, If not as a player (though so far nothing suggest otherwise), then as part of the support staff, he's earned that much.

[dyslexic nam 9,983]

2022 is only 1.5 yrs away.  At the rate he is going I doubt he would need some token gesture.  If we can manage to qualify there is a very real chance that he would be a key player for us.   He may be benefitting from a sole focus on his club play but he is clearly not declining in terms of what he can do on the pitch over 90 minutes.

[Big_M 1,915]

its 2 years away as it will be in nov-dec 2022..so he cant play club for one more season and then play world cup and retire..he would have to play two more seasons..could also play in a country that has spring to fall seasons like in scandinavia or canada and end his career with a world cup..but at that point he would be 39 and 9-10 months..combination of canada qualifying and him being in the squad is very unlikely

[An Observer 723]

I moved from the "no chance" of this happening to the "it is possible" in the last year; that being said, 2 years is a long time when he is 37 (almost 38). I am still assuming he wont be there but it would be a pleasant surprise if he is (and of course, a much better surprise if we qualify).  But he definitely might help us get there (something that is probably in a way more important).

Maybe he will become our Roger Milla in Qatar! 🙂

[Bdog 844]

3 hours ago, Big_M said:

its 2 years away as it will be in nov-dec 2022..so he cant play club for one more season and then play world cup and retire..he would have to play two more seasons..could also play in a country that has spring to fall seasons like in scandinavia or canada and end his career with a world cup..but at that point he would be 39 and 9-10 months..combination of canada qualifying and him being in the squad is very unlikely

One more season with Besiktas next year and he can play 5 more in the CPL