TFC2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I hope Besiktas goes through, mostly because of Atiba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Can someone handicap this matchup for me? I don't really follow Euro club leagues. I see Bayern is absolutely dominating the Bundesliga, but I also see the #2 team in the league is Leipzig, which were in Besiktas' group and Besiktas beat them TWICE... What are Besiktas' chances? I'm assuming they are underdogs, but by how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bertuzzi44 said: Can someone handicap this matchup for me? I don't really follow Euro club leagues. I see Bayern is absolutely dominating the Bundesliga, but I also see the #2 team in the league is Leipzig, which were in Besiktas' group and Besiktas beat them TWICE... What are Besiktas' chances? I'm assuming they are underdogs, but by how much? Pretty hard to do - especially considering what can happen in home and away cup competitions. Bayern have to be viewed as pretty strong favourites, but Besiktas would never have been predicted to top their group - yet they did. Toss in the way some teams can elevate their game on big occasions, and I think handicapping it is pretty hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Turkish teams are incredibly hard to beat at home. I'd imagine Besiktas get a draw. However, it will depend on whether they don't get blown out in 1st leg in Munich. And it is Bayern Munich they are playing against. Hard to get a result, or even a close score against Bayern in Munich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Looks like the Impact is amongst MLS teams interested in Hutchinson. To add to that (Starting at 3:36) https://www.rds.ca/videos/soccer/impact/mls-l-impact-devoile-sa-liste-de-protection-3.1256796 Leduc mentions that Atiba is a pending free agent and could sign in MLS and that the Impact is still showing interest, he could still stay in Turkey. Edited December 11, 2017 by Blackdude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Blackdude said: Looks like the Impact is amongst MLS teams interested in Hutchinson. Oh God, please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Jahinho Guerro said: Oh God, please no. Please no Impact or please no MLS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 He can go to MLS post Europe career. CPL would be even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 27 minutes ago, matty said: Please no Impact or please no MLS? Please no Impact...obviously ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I want Atiba to keep playing footy at the highest level, but if a move to the Impact ever did materialize it would be interesting to see how that kind of move would affect Piette. Atiba could get pushed further forward, but the worst case scenario (from a CMNT perspective) would be to have Piette's role reduced as a result of a move for Atiba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Ugh. Would a Toronto boy (well, Brampton) can stand wearing an IMFC jersey? lol DannyFromToronto23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farrelld Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Blackdude said: Looks like the Impact is amongst MLS teams interested in Hutchinson. To add to that (Starting at 3:36) https://www.rds.ca/videos/soccer/impact/mls-l-impact-devoile-sa-liste-de-protection-3.1256796 Leduc mentions that Atiba is a pending free agent and could sign in MLS and that the Impact is still showing interest, he could still stay in Turkey. Leduc says in the video that it's a 50/50 chance that he comes at the end of his contract this summer. Vancouver has made an offer in the past and Montreal has shown interest. As an Impact fan I'd love to see him in a midfield 3 with Piette and Dzemaili. 2 minutes ago, Yohan said: Ugh. Would a Toronto boy (well, Brampton) can stand wearing an IMFC jersey? lol How much of a connection does he really have with TFC though. Also Toronto has Bradley playing in a similar role, can't see both of them at the club at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 His longevity is remarkable. To be playing some of the best football of his career less than two months away from turning 35 is impressive. hamiltonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Playing with Piette day in day out would be great for the MNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, farrelld said: Leduc says in the video that it's a 50/50 chance that he comes at the end of his contract this summer. Vancouver has made an offer in the past and Montreal has shown interest. As an Impact fan I'd love to see him in a midfield 3 with Piette and Dzemaili. How much of a connection does he really have with TFC though. Also Toronto has Bradley playing in a similar role, can't see both of them at the club at the same time. I don't presume to speak for Atiba, but he was born and raised in Toronto area. Asking a Torontonian to wear a Montreal jersey, well, that's a tough sell. No offence, and I love Montreal the city and the people, but as a Torontonian, I'd die before I wear a jersey of a Montreal sports team. lol As for where he'd fit in with IMFC, at 34, I dunno if Hutch can still play box to box role, which he'd most likely play for Mtl if Piette plays the destroyer DM role. As for Hutch having no connection to TFC, well, he's played at BMO Field before, and probably been to a few TFC games. Ask DeRo and JDG how much it means to play for TFC when TFC comes calling. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: Playing with Piette day in day out would be great for the MNT. I guess my question was more about whether or not they would end up playing together day in day out. Piette is a DM for the Impact, and it is a role Hutch has played (very well) for us. And while he is amazing for his age, he will slow down as he gets older, and that suggests he may be more likely to also play that kind of DM role in MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyFromToronto23 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Yohan said: I don't presume to speak for Atiba, but he was born and raised in Toronto area. Asking a Torontonian to wear a Montreal jersey, well, that's a tough sell. No offence, and I love Montreal the city and the people, but as a Torontonian, I'd die before I wear a jersey of a Montreal sports team. lol As for where he'd fit in with IMFC, at 34, I dunno if Hutch can still play box to box role, which he'd most likely play for Mtl if Piette plays the destroyer DM role. As for Hutch having no connection to TFC, well, he's played at BMO Field before, and probably been to a few TFC games. Ask DeRo and JDG how much it means to play for TFC when TFC comes calling. Atiba Bradley,Vazquez in the midfield would be crazy lol I think Atiba Hutchinson would be complementary in style to Vazquez and Micheal Bradley cuz Atiba can cover ground, wins the ball back and rarely gives it away. Edited December 12, 2017 by DannyFromToronto23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Yohan said: I don't presume to speak for Atiba, but he was born and raised in Toronto area. Asking a Torontonian to wear a Montreal jersey, well, that's a tough sell. No offence, and I love Montreal the city and the people, but as a Torontonian, I'd die before I wear a jersey of a Montreal sports team. lol Pretty sure Ken Dryden did it with pride and loved it every time he beat the Leafs in Toronto. Grizzly and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Bertuzzi44 said: Can someone handicap this matchup for me? I don't really follow Euro club leagues. I see Bayern is absolutely dominating the Bundesliga, but I also see the #2 team in the league is Leipzig, which were in Besiktas' group and Besiktas beat them TWICE... What are Besiktas' chances? I'm assuming they are underdogs, but by how much? 538 has it 88% probability for Bayern to go through, their most lopsided matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I've been trying to imagine ways that Besiktas might get past them. One could be that the German clubs have a winter break, but Champions used to start up earlier; by this point, late Feb, they will be back on form. The have way more experience in knock-outs and can handle the two legs more skillfully. They would be very unlikely to fail at home first leg. Even the best in Germany have problems keeping things close vs. Bayern in Munich. Basically a draw with goals would be the best situation reasonably imaginable. So for me it is all against Besiktas. Only thinking that they will be better rested not playing midweek, the squad should be fresh. And we may expect a few winter signings, if they are really thinking it is worth it to go for the league again and get past Bayern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 posted on the Canada Soccer website. I think the odds just went up that Atiba will be named Canadian Soccer player of the year https://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-s-atiba-hutchinson-to-face-bayern-munich-in-uefa-champions-league-round-of-16-with-club-team-beşiktaş-p161313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 on twitter johnyb, dyslexic nam and Kent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Cured Cancer, Saved Jesus, All-Round Great Guy.... johnyb, hamiltonfan and Brethers8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, jpg75 said: Cured Cancer, Saved Jesus, All-Round Great Guy.... Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, jpg75 said: Cured Cancer, Saved Jesus, All-Round Great Guy.... Isn't that one bad because it defied God and cursed all humanity or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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