dyslexic nam Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 hours ago, king1010 said: He filed his one time switch did he not? Hes cap tied? Yeah but it would still be an ass move to not give him at least one start at the GC. I suspect Herdman will want to keep him in good spirits. MtlMario and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Let him run at some tired defenders with a few sub appearances at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I also hope Ayo is in the mix as far as our squad goes for Octagonals starting in September Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 18 hours ago, VinceA said: Should also note this was a period of time where the CSA were ass at scouting even in their own backyard and seemed to be indiferrent to players running to other teams. Not for nothing, but this was also about the same time that the CSA introduced a young upstart playing for the prestigious Gloucester Hornets with options to play for both the USA and Haiti to the Canadian program, so I don't think their scouting was as completely incompetent as you say. Pottsy3, BuzzAndSting, Bison44 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Not for nothing, but this was also about the same time that the CSA introduced a young upstart playing for the prestigious Gloucester Hornets with options to play for both the USA and Haiti to the Canadian program, so I don't think their scouting was as completely incompetent as you say. Buzz and sting! h coach, shorty, Olympique_de_Marseille and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Oh yes, the Gloucester Hornets. I remember playing them in U-16 when they came over to Newfoundland to play some games. Decent side. I still have their badge (it was like a big green G with a stinging hornet) stashed somewhere deep amongst all my other playing memorabilia.... shorty and h coach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Gloucester Hornets were always strong youth teams, they played in some of the youth tournaments which the Stoney Creek team I coached participated in, I think we only matched up with them once in Westport Connecticut at around the U14 level! Obinna, h coach and shorty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 12 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: Yeah but it would still be an ass move to not give him at least one start at the GC. Tell that to Gutiérrez; filed his switch and....nada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Apparently a move could happen soon for Ayo, with his strong start I saw a tweet from one of the soccer guys saying there’s some interest. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just now, Dominic94 said: Apparently a move could happen soon for Ayo, with his strong start I saw a tweet from one of the soccer guys saying there’s some interest. Normally I don’t necessarily want everyone seeking to move all the time, but I would recommend as many of our guys getting out of TFC as possible right now. The issues they have are structural and can’t be fixed quickly. Coach who seems to have lost the room, Bradley and Jozy on contracts that are bad value at this point, and a system that the players don’t seem to be suited for. Dominic94, Shway, narduch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: Normally I don’t necessarily want everyone seeking to move all the time, but I would recommend as many of our guys getting out of TFC as possible right now. The issues they have are structural and can’t be fixed quickly. Coach who seems to have lost the room, Bradley and Jozy on contracts that are bad value at this point, and a system that the players don’t seem to be suited for. They also love their vets way way way too much. An Observer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said: The issues they have are structural and can’t be fixed quickly. Coach who seems to have lost the room, Bradley and Jozy on contracts that are bad value at this point, and a system that the players don’t seem to be suited for. Most of those things can be fixed quickly. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, RS said: Most of those things can be fixed quickly. Coaching change can happen for sure. But moving on Bradley and Altidore seem trickier and longer term. Plus they have a bunch of middling US journeymen that don’t really add much value to the club (IMO). gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Ayo should leave TFC and either go to another team in the MLS or he should go to Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said: Coaching change can happen for sure. But moving on Bradley and Altidore seem trickier and longer term. Plus they have a bunch of middling US journeymen that don’t really add much value to the club (IMO). Moving Bradley is not an option. They are grooming him for a position with the team after he retires. Ayo just quietly keeps knocking in goals. Very nice finishing on a beauty feed from Bradley last night. No matter what kind of disaster is going on in the back..he has to be full of confidence..ready to showcase himself on the big stage. johnyb, LeoH037 and dyslexic nam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Armas has been fired. An Observer, dyslexic nam, aredding77 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, frmr said: Armas has been fired. Probably was about time. I never really liked this hire from the beginning although I do think Armas was in a tough position (injuries, playing away from home, etc). one thing is for sure - the Vanney bashers on this site have been proven spectacularly wrong 😂. Not just for what has happened at TFC but for the turnaround he has engineered at LA. Vanney is an excellent coach regardless if he plays Liam Fraser or Quillian Roberts enough for the fans on here Bison44, Obinna, DavemTFC and 5 others 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Floortom said: Probably was about time. I never really liked this hire from the beginning although I do think Armas was in a tough position (injuries, playing away from home, etc). one thing is for sure - the Vanney bashers on this site have been proven spectacularly wrong 😂. Not just for what has happened at TFC but for the turnaround he has engineered at LA. Vanney is an excellent coach regardless if he plays Liam Fraser or Quillian Roberts enough for the fans on here I wonder who replaces Armas as manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawafan74 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 11 hours ago, El Hombre said: Not for nothing, but this was also about the same time that the CSA introduced a young upstart playing for the prestigious Gloucester Hornets with options to play for both the USA and Haiti to the Canadian program, so I don't think their scouting was as completely incompetent as you say. That had just as much to do with the MLS youth academies getting all twisted about not getting their hands on David. Everyone knew who he was; pushing him into the nat program was part of their way of trying to convince him to leave his club team and join an academy. CSA coaches spent years trying to push him into an academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Floortom said: one thing is for sure - the Vanney bashers on this site have been proven spectacularly wrong 😂. Uhmmm no. All that’s been proven is that Armas was a horrendous coach. LeoH037 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Floortom said: one thing is for sure - the Vanney bashers on this site have been proven spectacularly wrong 😂. Yes. This is worth repeating. I would also like to hear from those who (when I suggested Akinola could start alongside David and complement Jonathan David very well) thought that Akinola would be something like like 5th or 6th on our depth chart way behind the the likes of Cavallini and Charles Brym!!!!! I thought this notion was laughable at the time. More so given that no one had ever seen Brym play at that time. Equally laughable was the notion that Cavalini was country miles ahead of Akinola on the depth chart even though I showed MLS scoring stats showing very much the contrary. Even this year Akinola has scored three goals in something like 560 mins while Cav has only 2 goals in almost double the minutes played. Edited July 5, 2021 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, Free kick said: Yes. This is worth repeating. I would also like to hear from those who (when I suggested Akinola could start alongside David and complement Jonathan David very well) thought that Akinola would be something like like 5th or 6th on our depth chart way behind the the likes of Cavallini and Charles Brym!!!!! I thought this notion was laughable at the time. More so given that no one had ever seen Brym play at that time. Equally laughable was the notion that Cavalini was country miles ahead of Akinola on the depth chart even though I showed MLS scoring stats showing very much the contrary. Even this year Akinola has scored three goals in something like 560 mins while Cav has only 2 goals in almost double the minutes played. Cav has three as well - putting him in a six-way tie for top scoring Canadian. Cavallini adds a ton to any team he’s on. Goals per minute does not tell the story. He’s also clinical for Canada but was arguably our #1 striker before he even scored a goal for us based off his overall play. He’s in a tough spot for Vancouver - tough to judge him when he’s picking off scraps. trc2014, Free kick and Colliedor 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Cav has three as well - putting him in a six-way tie for top scoring Canadian. Cavallini adds a ton to any team he’s on. Goals per minute does not tell the story. He’s also clinical for Canada but was arguably our #1 striker before he even scored a goal for us based off his overall play. He’s in a tough spot for Vancouver - tough to judge him when he’s picking off scraps. Cheers! I will give you credit for standing up and being counted. Cavallini must have scored tonight then. By the way, I still think Akinola will start for Herdman. Maybe not in the first window, But eventually. He is strong on the ball, has a good finish and good scoring rate. Edited July 5, 2021 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Cav has three as well - putting him in a six-way tie for top scoring Canadian. Cavallini adds a ton to any team he’s on. Goals per minute does not tell the story. He’s also clinical for Canada but was arguably our #1 striker before he even scored a goal for us based off his overall play. He’s in a tough spot for Vancouver - tough to judge him when he’s picking off scraps. Agreed. Cavallini gets no service at Vancouver and gets his goals from scraps more often than not. I am willing to look past his club scoring record so long as he keeps putting them away for Canada. As for Ayo, I feel he'll get his chances. I would be surprised if Herdman didn't give him at least 1 start. I have the feeling he's going to thrive for Canada. Like Cavallini, he doesn't need many chances to find the back of the net, and he is guaranteed to get chances playing with Davies, Buchanan, Pasher, Laryea, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliedor Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Free kick said: Yes. This is worth repeating. I would also like to hear from those who (when I suggested Akinola could start alongside David and complement Jonathan David very well) thought that Akinola would be something like like 5th or 6th on our depth chart way behind the the likes of Cavallini and Charles Brym!!!!! I thought this notion was laughable at the time. More so given that no one had ever seen Brym play at that time. Equally laughable was the notion that Cavalini was country miles ahead of Akinola on the depth chart even though I showed MLS scoring stats showing very much the contrary. Even this year Akinola has scored three goals in something like 560 mins while Cav has only 2 goals in almost double the minutes played. Uhh.. he hasn't even played a game yet. Why is this written like it's a fact he's gonna be a regular starter with David and picked over Cav? Maybe just wait a little... I'm sure he'll see something in Gold Cup, but beyond that it's still very unclear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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