LeoH037 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 49 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: I think he was a dual, they’re chasing the Arsenal guy. If they get him rip Ayo. Even if he is, kid was born and raised in the USA (just moved to Germany in 2019 I believe), so it would be shocking if he chose not to represent the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, El Diego said: I've said it before, but I think it is pretty clear that Wheeler is getting info from someone involved with the MNT program, possibly from Herdman himself. I think they selectively release info to Wheeler/OneSoccer, so when Wheeler says something like this I think it is more than just mere speculation/gut feeling. Now, obviously we saw with Yankov that this intel isn't infallible, but I don't think it was a case of Wheeler speculating something and relaying it as fact and being wrong. I think that was a case of the MNT thought Yankov was committed and he decided to then go with Bulgaria. Either they misinterpreted what he said, or he played us, but that's my guess as to what happened. I agree, I’ve said the same thing before as well. People are acting like Wheeler is just making shit up out of nowhere. As it stands, Yankov is the only one that he “misinformed”. I still think there’s smoke there....March will tell. toontownman, Obinna and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Shway said: I agree, I’ve said the same thing before as well. People are acting like Wheeler is just making shit up out of nowhere. As it stands, Yankov is the only one that he “misinformed”. I still think there’s smoke there....March will tell. We’ve established that Bulgaria called Yankov to avoid losing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Shway said: I agree, I’ve said the same thing before as well. People are acting like Wheeler is just making shit up out of nowhere. As it stands, Yankov is the only one that he “misinformed”. I still think there’s smoke there....March will tell. I think the smoke is that Ayo didnt show at this camp. And you would think Wheeler would learn not to do the old "wink wink" routine until a guy is capped. Its not like this didnt just bite him on the ass a month ago. Dominic94, dyslexic nam, johnyb and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Bison44 said: I think the smoke is that Ayo didnt show at this camp. And you would think Wheeler would learn not to do the old "wink wink" routine until a guy is capped. Its not like this didnt just bite him on the ass a month ago. I agree with this. Despite what I said earlier, even though I think Wheeler's source is from the team, I don't understand why they are so cavalier about the info they leak. Jeepers, we even saw a Sportsnet employee report that the Blue Jays signed Michael Brantley which turned out to be incorrect. I don't understand being "first" when everyone gets the same info soon after, anyway. LeoH037, Shway and The Real Marc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Bison44 said: And you would think Wheeler would learn not to do the old "wink wink" routine until a guy is capped But then we wouldn't have people endlessly discussing his posts and motivating others to follow/read his material. Shway and Bison44 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Norrin Radd said: But then we wouldn't have people endlessly discussing his posts and motivating others to follow/read his material. Alternatively, the major miss on his last big scoop made me less interested in what he has to say. Bison44 and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Bison44 said: And you would think Wheeler would learn not to do the old "wink wink" routine until a guy is capped. Why would he need to do a "wink wink" routine when a guy is already capped? That makes no sense. There's an inherent risk in reporting this kind of stuff. Do it enough and you'll eventually get burned. It happens all the time, but that doesn't mean it should stop. Shway, Ivan and Kent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Just as long as Wheels reporting this and that doesnt facilitate us losing someone, which it might have done with Yankov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Bison44 said: Just as long as Wheels reporting this and that doesnt facilitate us losing someone, which it might have done with Yankov. I’ll disagree. Yankov basically said whoever comes knocking first, I will answer. To me that’s exactly what happened. Meaning this was a result of not playing games, and he plays in the country that called him up to play. Was he supposed to hold out till March, in hope of a call up that shouldn’t be guaranteed considering it will be our first game in 16 months and our midfield is already clogged. Wheeler has done no wrong. Ivan, Obinna and Fullback 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Wheeler made it sound like it was a done deal on Onessoccer (supposedly from Herdman) and Bulgaria wasted no time in calling the bluff and offering him a cap before we could. Whether that was Yankov's plan all along to pressure someone to calling him by creating a "bidding war" over him is unclear. But would they have called him up if there wasnt CDN journos claiming he was going to be lost to them very soon?? Anyways...similar talk about Ayo and BOOM, he skips our camp. I hope its all coincedence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Wheeler made it sound like it was a done deal on Onessoccer (supposedly from Herdman) and Bulgaria wasted no time in calling the bluff and offering him a cap before we could. Whether that was Yankov's plan all along to pressure someone to calling him by creating a "bidding war" over him is unclear. But would they have called him up if there wasnt CDN journos claiming he was going to be lost to them very soon?? Anyways...similar talk about Ayo and BOOM, he skips our camp. I hope its all coincedence. In Ayo’a case he’s not a lock for their team though. Yankov is no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Wheeler made it sound like it was a done deal on Onessoccer (supposedly from Herdman) and Bulgaria wasted no time in calling the bluff and offering him a cap before we could. Whether that was Yankov's plan all along to pressure someone to calling him by creating a "bidding war" over him is unclear. But would they have called him up if there wasnt CDN journos claiming he was going to be lost to them very soon?? Anyways...similar talk about Ayo and BOOM, he skips our camp. I hope its all coincedence. Yankov was a last minute replacement for an injured Bulgarian player. It had nothing to do with calling a bluff. Edited January 21, 2021 by Obinna Shway, jordan and Ivan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Yankov was called up and hass played in 3 of the 6 games since his first callup. I believe he missed two of the senior games to play for the U21's as well. So playing in 3 of 4 available games for the senior team to date since commiting. Yes, he was likely called up in part to the threat of Canada but it also looks clear that they intend to use Yankov at least in the short term. It wasn't a 5 minute cameo and then nothing for 16 months like Tomori with England. Speaking of Tomori. Not sure if anyone has noticed but Cristante has become a center back for Roma. I'm not sure how serious the Cristante to Canada rumours were and even still he still might be favoured to play as a central midfielder for Canada. But given our depth in midfield, imagine a tandem of Cristante and Tomori at center backs for Canada right now. An Observer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Back to Ayo - Not saying he isn't injured but he is currently in Toronto and may be playing/watching local pickup. Although not attending our camp definitely hurts, I don't necessarily think it means he is going to select USA. At full strength he most likely isn't in USA senior 23 man squad, whereas he is likely our current 3rd/4th option up top currently. He may be waiting still and perhaps still wants to play for USA Olympic squad before switching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Does anyone know what kind of injury he sustained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, MtlMario said: Does anyone know what kind of injury he sustained? Acute Americanitis JuicyHam, Nate3322, Obinna and 8 others 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Corazon said: Yankov was called up and hass played in 3 of the 6 games since his first callup. I believe he missed two of the senior games to play for the U21's as well. So playing in 3 of 4 available games for the senior team to date since commiting. Yes, he was likely called up in part to the threat of Canada but it also looks clear that they intend to use Yankov at least in the short term. It wasn't a 5 minute cameo and then nothing for 16 months like Tomori with England. Speaking of Tomori. Not sure if anyone has noticed but Cristante has become a center back for Roma. I'm not sure how serious the Cristante to Canada rumours were and even still he still might be favoured to play as a central midfielder for Canada. But given our depth in midfield, imagine a tandem of Cristante and Tomori at center backs for Canada right now. Tomori and Cristante as CB's... we can only dream of that kind of quality. These dual-national situations are kiling me, harder to get over than many relationships. Nate3322, Corazon, nolando and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer21 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Bison44 said: Wheeler made it sound like it was a done deal on Onessoccer (supposedly from Herdman) and Bulgaria wasted no time in calling the bluff and offering him a cap before we could. Whether that was Yankov's plan all along to pressure someone to calling him by creating a "bidding war" over him is unclear. But would they have called him up if there wasnt CDN journos claiming he was going to be lost to them very soon?? Anyways...similar talk about Ayo and BOOM, he skips our camp. I hope its all coincedence. We can’t get upset that journalists don’t cover Canadian soccer enough, then get upset at Canadian journalists for covering Canadian soccer. IF he was told on the record by a reliable source that Yankov was coming, of course he’s going to report it. Mango, Shway, Kent and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Meh, Wheeler has always come across as a bit self serving. Personally strikes me as being more concerned with being the first guy with a scoop more than anything, so will gladly jump the gun. Hurts his credibility IMO. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Canada soccer posted pictures of all the club teammates on Instagram. Its actually pretty cool to see. I can't imagine a 19 year old wouldn't want to be there with his everyday teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbacons Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Let's keep an eye on that post to see if Ayo likes or comments on it... toontownman and Shway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Wheeler: You going to that party on Saturday at Canada's house? Yankov: Yeah man, I'll be there. Should be awesome. Wheeler: Cool man, I don't know many of the people there, will be good to have someone to talk to. See you there. Yankov: Yeah, for sure. Later that day... Voyageurs: Hey Wheeler, how's it going? Do you know anybody going to this party on Saturday? Wheeler: Yeah, Yankov told me his coming. Voyageurs: Oh cool, that guy is hilarious. Looking forward to it. Saturday afternoon... Yankov: Sorry to do this last minute, but I'm going to have to cancel. Something came up. Voyageurs: Dammit Wheeler, you are so untrustworthy! Why did you tell us Yankov was coming!?!? LeoH037 and Shway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Chuck Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Probably ahead of Akinola in the US U23 depth: Matthew Hoppe Josh Sargent About even with Akinola in the US U23 depth: Daryl Dike Sebastian Soto Nicholas Gioacchini Haji Wright Two European dual-nat strikers the US is trying to recruit; unclear if it will happen: Folarin Balogun (call-ups to England U20 and US U18) Malick Sanogo (call-ups to Germany U17 and US U17) As has been mentioned, none of these options are better than David. The closest may be Hoppe who per minute has clearly shown more in the Bundesliga than Sargent. USA has more depth of competition while Canada has the top competitor in David. So although Akinola would be an automatic Canada call-up (at least for the bench), it's not crazy for Akinola to think he has at least some chance to be the starting US #9 and get to be in a lineup with Pulisic, Reyna, Musah, McKennie, Adams, Dest, Robinson, Brooks, Miazga, Steffen. The USMNT started Akinola at the 9 in their December domestic camp. Also have to think his fifty US youth caps factors in. He has a limited connection to the nation but a deep connection to the soccer program, so if the USSF makes a strong push he may go with them. USA plays senior friendlies and U23 Olympic qualifiers in March, so Akinola will remain Canada-eligible until at least summer. CanadaFan123, Dominic94, The Real Marc and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 ^ Good analysis and welcome to the board Canadian Chuck. Do you really think Ayo is an automatic choice in the 23 for the Canadian NT? David, Cavallini and Larin are ahead of him right now. Unless you were referring to the U23s, in which case I completely agree. Canadian Chuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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