Blackjack15 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Ayo Akinola called up by USMNT U20’s https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/10/23/16/10/20181023-news-u20mnt-head-coach-tab-ramos-names-20-player-roster-for-2018-concacaf-u20-championship I feel like after the 2019 World Cup in Poland we could the see him file his one time switch and commit to Canada Exactly the same as to how Tomori and Eustaquio are committed to their U21 Sides (England & Portugal) until next summer then will look back to the maple leaf and consider it There was talk of him making the move ahead of this tournament but he’s decided to then postpone that decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 He wasn't likely to get called up for the last senior men's game so I understand staying put for now. Would have thought the US will just Cap him post 2019 if he looks like he has potential. Hopefully Herdman can get his hooks in first. Competition for Canada is pretty tough upfront right now at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 He’s in a weird spot so it’s best for him to stay with the USA for now. If he switches to us or Nigeria he has no options, so it’s best for him to wait. Also, he’s behind Jordan hamilton on TFC so I don’t think he’s close to any full team right now unless he’s being cynically capped. The states won’t have opportunities to cap tie him.. we can cap guys who aren’t necessarily good enough because we play minnows.. ie Busti, Telfer, Elva, Edwards, Hemati etc so we shouldn’t waste it. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Keegan said: He’s in a weird spot so it’s best for him to stay with the USA for now. If he switches to us or Nigeria he has no options, so it’s best for him to wait. Also, he’s behind Jordan hamilton on TFC so I don’t think he’s close to any full team right now unless he’s being cynically capped. The states won’t have opportunities to cap tie him.. we can cap guys who aren’t necessarily good enough because we play minnows.. ie Busti, Telfer, Elva, Edwards, Hemati etc so we shouldn’t waste it. Especially Nigeria. Their striker depth is way better than ours or the USA. Agree it makes sense for him to stay put, as much as I want him to commit to us already. ChuckMe92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMe92 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I'd expect Akinola to feature heavily for the US U20s in this qualifying tournament. Weah, Sargent, Soto, and Amon are apparently either past this level or were not released by their clubs. This is a relatively weak US forward group that includes three college soccer forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 50 minutes ago, Blackjack15 said: Ayo Akinola called up by USMNT U20’s https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2018/10/23/16/10/20181023-news-u20mnt-head-coach-tab-ramos-names-20-player-roster-for-2018-concacaf-u20-championship I feel like after the 2019 World Cup in Poland we could the see him file his one time switch and commit to Canada Exactly the same as to how Tomori and Eustaquio are committed to their U21 Sides (England & Portugal) until next summer then will look back to the maple leaf and consider it There was talk of him making the move ahead of this tournament but he’s decided to then postpone that decision. I dont understand this at all. You seem to think there is evidence that he is going to switch. If so why do the americans keep calling him in? And if he is continuing to get calls, isnt he more likely to stay as opposed to switch?? He is continually getting and accepting calls to play for another country, pull on another jersey....doesnt this go directly against Herdmans credo of love for he shirt etc?? Everytime I see Herdman he mentions it. Isnt this exactly what he was was railing about, guys using the shirt to further their career? He is american while he can use them to get to the U-20 WC, then if he cant crack the full USMNT he switches to canada because he has a better shot at our CMNT??? MtlMario, LeoH037, Ansem and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMe92 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) According to an interview US Soccer published a year ago, Akinola strongly identifies as American and loves playing for the US national team, calling it "the greatest thing ever." If so, the reason he would switch is because of not receiving further US callups. Don't think that will happen anytime remotely soon. He's one of the better young CF options the US has. The US has wingers, but other than Josh Sargent and perhaps Andrija Novakovich, it's not clear what quality young #9s the US has, and certainly not clear they are better off than Canada at the position given the rise of Jonathan David. Except for Llanez who is a winger, Akinola is clearly the best forward the US has for this group stage roster. Nowhere close to falling out of favor. Edited October 25, 2018 by ChuckMe92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, ChuckMe92 said: According to an interview US Soccer published a year ago, Akinola strongly identifies as American and loves playing for the US national team, calling it "the greatest thing ever." If so, the reason he would switch is because of not receiving further US callups. Don't think that will happen anytime remotely soon. He's one of the better young CF options the US has. The US has wingers, but other than Josh Sargent and perhaps Andrija Novakovich, it's not clear what quality young #9s the US has, and certainly not clear they are better off than Canada at the position given the rise of Jonathan David. Except for Llanez who is a winger, Akinola is clearly the best forward the US has for this group stage roster. Nowhere close to falling out of favor. Akinola has to beat out Altidore/Giovinco/Ricketts/Hamilton/Bakero/Janson for FW spots. He's not high on the US FW depth chart. At the youth level, sure, but at the senior level he has a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 At the senior level, Wood, Sargent, Zardes, Novakovic, and Altidore come immediately to mind as being ahead of him ... maybe throw Dwyer in there too ... he’s definitely no higher than 8th or 9th on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Liam Millar - 1999 Jonathan David - 2000 Theo Bair - 1999 Adonijah Reid - 1999 Gloire Amanda - 1998 Jordan Perruzza - 2001 Jose Hernandez - 2000 Dario Zanatta - 1997 Gabriel Boakye - 1998 Tajon Buchanon - 1999 O'Vonte Mullings - 2000 Mohamed Omar - 2000 And yet 18 pages of hand-wringing on a kid that scored 5 in USL and doesn't want to play for us. Kent, Strait Red, devioustrevor and 9 others 4 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 We’re desperate for guys the Americans call.. until we get them and realize they’re average in our pool (see Verhoeven, Akindele, Doughty).. toontownman and shamrock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Keegan said: We’re desperate for guys the Americans call.. until we get them and realize they’re average in our pool (see Verhoeven, Akindele, Doughty).. Even when we don't get them, we come to that same conclusion eventually (Bunbury) Obinna and toontownman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, deschamp86 said: Even when we don't get them, we come to that same conclusion eventually (Bunbury) That one is sad more than anything. He’s better than the others and would be a regular call up over a guy like Ricketts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Keegan said: That one is sad more than anything. He’s better than the others and would be a regular call up over a guy like Ricketts. Sad for who? He led us on then bailed MtlMario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 The whole thing is sad. He could have been a solid guy for us, and given his dad's history it would have been a feel good story. Instead, he chose to be a bit player in an underwhelming US team. Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, deschamp86 said: Sad for who? He led us on then bailed Not that he didnt get what he deserved but I’m still sad for him, and his dad most of all. At least he has US national team player out of his twitter bio finally. Edited October 25, 2018 by Keegan Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkiss Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 done. let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, Keegan said: Not that he didnt get what he deserved but I’m still sad for him, and his dad most of all. At least he has US national team player out of his twitter bio finally. I don't know if you should feel sad for him. He felt American and he got to play a handful of games for the US. There's a good chance he's satisfied with his choice if he doesn't feel all that Canadian to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckMe92 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 He scored twice for the US against Puerto Rico today, and nearly had two more. The funniest thing about this match is two US-born brothers of PR descent started against each other, both from FC Dallas. Brandon Servania for the US and Jaden Servania for PR. Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 8:45 AM, dyslexic nam said: The whole thing is sad. He could have been a solid guy for us, and given his dad's history it would have been a feel good story. Instead, he chose to be a bit player in an underwhelming US team. This is generous. Juan Agudelo is a bit player. Bunbury is more like a trialist who played in 4 friendlies. Literally. Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 hours ago, ChuckMe92 said: He scored twice for the US against Puerto Rico today, and nearly had two more. The funniest thing about this match is two US-born brothers of PR descent started against each other, both from FC Dallas. Brandon Servania for the US and Jaden Servania for PR. 2 good goals by Akinola, if only he was doing that for Canada not The US i still consider this guy as a prospect to watch in the future Solid campaigns at U15, U17 & now U20 Level I am confident once this cycle ends: after the World Cup in Poland next summer he will switch to Canada because “he has a better a chance” according to himself and it’s true although he needs to change his narrative that he has to do this for what he feels and not “What’s best for me” and it’s true, he does have a better chance with Canada because besides our 5 CF/ST/FW the door is wide open Should he file his one time switch prior to the u23 Olympic qualifier I believe he will be given a look for us and everyone on here will forget that he was a yank player Hes stayed with the USMNT under twenties because really there was no need to change it up at this point but I remain confident it will happen toontownman and ChuckMe92 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, Blackjack15 said: Should he file his one time switch prior to the u23 Olympic qualifier I believe he will be given a look for us and everyone on here will forget that he was a yank player Speak for yourself. Also, every one of those players I mentioned above are eligible for our Olympic team. He can switch all he likes, doesn't mean he'll have a spot waiting for him. gator and red card 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodgkiss Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) It's Puerto Rico. I'm pretty sure we have some U17's that could score two goals against them. Why do people want a guy that clearly wants to play for the US? Focus on kids who want to wear the CAN kit. This guy does not deserve the time or the effort. Edited November 2, 2018 by hodgkiss gator, General Apathy, red card and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Both of those goals were easy finishes on a platter to be honest. He’s going to finish this group stage with like 10 goals and people are going to lose their minds but keep it all in perspective. hodgkiss and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Same view as I had with Tabla. Until he commits (while he is actively weighing his options) I couldn't give a shit about him. Once he chooses us, I will cheer him on without reservation. But until that time, no pining over him. My emotional currency is held in reserve for those who choose to play for Canada. red card, hodgkiss, MtlMario and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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