Ruffian Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 With all of the recent loans to TFC II the TFC roster only has ONE Canadian on it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 With all of the recent loans to TFC II the TFC roster only has ONE Canadian on it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_FC Not pleased with this. Although there are few canadian players, at least TFC are making an effort to develop canadian coaches. /sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 TFC have borrowed the Whitecap motto "Canadians have to earn playing time" Seriously though this is fuckin bullshit, not the least bit impressed. I'd rather lose with Canadians than win with this abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowda7 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 TFC has a bye this week and with a bunch of players injured, suspended or with national teams we'll probably see a few called back up for next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Morgan and Chapman went down to get playing time because they will likely start against RSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Well, this club is run by Americans now (Coach, assistant coaches, GM and President are all Americans). So you're going to see a lot of American players in their prime (since they count as domestic) until young Canadian players develop enough they can become regular starters and/or CSA increase Canadian slot. I personally believe this is just short term pain, but long term gain for Canadian players on this club. There's plenty of talent in TFC academy and local soccer that will end up replacing guys like Creavalle in the future. Plus, we're going to see more Canadian players coming from NCAA who will end up with TFC (but start with TFC2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowda7 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 Well, this club is run by Americans now (Coach, assistant coaches, GM and President are all Americans). So you're going to see a lot of American players in their prime (since they count as domestic) until young Canadian players develop enough they can become regular starters and/or CSA increase Canadian slot. I personally believe this is just short term pain, but long term gain for Canadian players on this club. There's plenty of talent in TFC academy and local soccer that will end up replacing guys like Creavalle in the future. Plus, we're going to see more Canadian players coming from NCAA who will end up with TFC (but start with TFC2). I agree if you look at everyone who was sent down they are either in their teens or early 20's so unlikely to be starting anyways. Personally I'd much rather they get loaned out to TFC II to get starting minutes than sit on the bench for the first squad. Then in a couple seasons we will likely see a lot more Canadians with TFC so have some patience building this kind of thing doesn't happen overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 yeah i would take the "loaned" thing with a grain of salt. TFC can move these guys back and forth as they please. if anything next week there could be more canadians given the potential injuries and call ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Then in a couple seasons we will likely see a lot more Canadians with TFC so have some patience building this kind of thing doesn't happen overnight. Is this a recent response or have you quoted someone from back in 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Thought I read Vanney saying that this was just a one-game loan for Chapman & Morgan to get them some playing time, not a permanent move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Exactly. I don't understand why everybody is getting so worked up about the 'loan' part. It is just some players playing for the reserves while the first team has a bye week. In my opinion, that is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Of course it is. Next week Morgan will be back with the first team and Chapman probably as well. That's the advantage of having your own USL team as opposed to an affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I don't disagree that loaning players out to get some game time before returning to the first team is a great option available now. The issue for me is TFC still hasn't got nearly enough Canadian content for my liking. This "won't happen overnight' and "soon more Canadians will be playing" attitude is farcical when this is TFC's 9th season and it has started with only one Canadian who looks like he could contribute every week. That isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I don't disagree that loaning players out to get some game time before returning to the first team is a great option available now. The issue for me is TFC still hasn't got nearly enough Canadian content for my liking. This "won't happen overnight' and "soon more Canadians will be playing" attitude is farcical when this is TFC's 9th season and it has started with only one Canadian who looks like he could contribute every week. That isn't good enough. Problem with TFC is that they never had stable management/coaches in their history. This is reason why TFC got high player turnover (including Canadians), but TFC have always given Canadian players opportunity to play for first team which Stephen Hart even acknowledged that during an interview where he criticize other Canadian teams for not giving Canadians more playing time. So I think it's unfair to criticize TFC when comes treatment of Canadian players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If Morgan wasn't so 1 footed he'd be the starting RB for TFC right now. Unfortunately for him he's behind Morrow who's one of the top players for TFC. Really Morrow could start on quite a few MLS teams; he just needs a change of scenery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Problem with TFC is that they never had stable management/coaches in their history. This is reason why TFC got high player turnover (including Canadians), but TFC have always given Canadian players opportunity to play for first team which Stephen Hart even acknowledged that during an interview where he criticize other Canadian teams for not giving Canadians more playing time. So I think it's unfair to criticize TFC when comes treatment of Canadian players. This, plus the fact they recently sold their best product so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Looks like MLSE will have a lease deal with the Argos for BMO. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Problem with TFC is that they never had stable management/coaches in their history. This is reason why TFC got high player turnover (including Canadians), but TFC have always given Canadian players opportunity to play for first team which Stephen Hart even acknowledged that during an interview where he criticize other Canadian teams for not giving Canadians more playing time. So I think it's unfair to criticize TFC when comes treatment of Canadian players. Why should TFC get away with only having one consistently contributing Canadian because they have given players a chance in the past? In the past they deserved credit and I gave it to them. This season isn't good enough and they deserve to be criticized for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Why should TFC get away with only having one consistently contributing Canadian because they have given players a chance in the past? In the past they deserved credit and I gave it to them. This season isn't good enough and they deserve to be criticized for it. Fair enough, but you got to realize we lost starting Canadian player to EPL team while other senior Canadian players were traded or left/retire(?) When comes to Canadian players, this is rebuilding season for TFC. Hopefully next season (better yet, this summer with one of kids stepping up), we will have more Canadian players who can contribute consistently for first team. Right now, there's a demand for CB, RB, DM(?) and winger on this club. Issey is one guy I would like to sign with TFC, but I think he doesn't want to return to TFC though. Not sure who else is available out there that can fill TFC needs that is Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 TFC must be like a pscho ex for Issey by this point, the league itself even more so. What would a guy like REB bring to the table, I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 TFC must be like a pscho ex for Issey by this point, the league itself even more so. What would a guy like REB bring to the table, I wonder? TFC has plenty of depth up front unless REB can play at wing. I think biggest need right now is starting CB and RB for TFC. We all know there is no such thing as Canadian RB, so it comes down to CB, but I am not sure who is out there that can step into starting CB role for TFC though. Right now, TFC is missing Henry who will be ideal CB for us. Maybe West Ham can loan him back to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 TFC has plenty of depth up front unless REB can play at wing. I think biggest need right now is starting CB and RB for TFC. We all know there is no such thing as Canadian RB, so it comes down to CB, but I am not sure who is out there that can step into starting CB role for TFC though. Right now, TFC is missing Henry who will be ideal CB for us. Maybe West Ham can loan him back to us? I like Bloom at RB. Looks like he hurt himself in training though so Creavalle will continue there. And at CB while we do have Zavaleta and Hagglund to back up Perquis and Caldwell, I still don't feel safe at CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowda7 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 TFC has plenty of depth up front unless REB can play at wing. I think biggest need right now is starting CB and RB for TFC. We all know there is no such thing as Canadian RB, so it comes down to CB, but I am not sure who is out there that can step into starting CB role for TFC though. Right now, TFC is missing Henry who will be ideal CB for us. Maybe West Ham can loan him back to us? We need to convince Edgar to switch to MLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Fair enough, but you got to realize we lost starting Canadian player to EPL team while other senior Canadian players were traded or left/retire(?) When comes to Canadian players, this is rebuilding season for TFC. Hopefully next season (better yet, this summer with one of kids stepping up), we will have more Canadian players who can contribute consistently for first team. Right now, there's a demand for CB, RB, DM(?) and winger on this club. Issey is one guy I would like to sign with TFC, but I think he doesn't want to return to TFC though. Not sure who else is available out there that can fill TFC needs that is Canadian. Of course I realize the retirements and sale/trades of canadian players. I also realize that TFC management knew for at least a year (though likely even longer if you think about it) that those same players would be on their way out (Bekker aside maybe) so they had more than enough time to find Canadian replacements. I get that they may not have wanted/needed direct replacements position wise, but canadian content-wise I argue they should have. I agree about the turnover being an issue, but IMO that should not mean they get a free pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 26, 2015 Author Share Posted March 26, 2015 I think we may see Jay Chapman get some playing time this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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