madmonte Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Okay, so I have a question. For all of the minimal added effort and time it would take, should I just go ahead and add the Canadian teams to this list, and call it Mother of All Canadian Players or something? Basically, because I'm tracking USA to third tier, it would end up being the Canadian players from Montreal Impact, Vancouver Whitecaps, TFC (and their USL Pro affiliates, ie TFC II), then the two NASL teams in Edmonton and Ottawa. The only reason I haven't asked before is I don't want to step on anyones toes that are tracking these guys in the MSL threads and NASL threads. But it seems silly to track MLS Players, but ONLY if they aren't playing for Canadian teams. It would make it a quicker one stop shop to see who plays where. If there's another issue with this that I haven't thought of but a mod HAS, then let me know. Just trying to be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Definitely needed so we can see all of our players available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I don't mind honestly . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I think this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David C. Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm easy, either way, and very thankful for your efforts. Personally, I mainly use the thread to track players abroad (meaning outside North America). Those playing in the US and Canada are generally pretty obvious and easier for me to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Personally, I mainly use the thread to track players abroad (meaning outside North America). Those playing in the US and Canada are generally pretty obvious and easier for me to follow. I agree it was easy previously, but with the addition of the three new USL squads it is going to get harder to follow all of these players playing in North America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I like the idea. -Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 add the cdn teams but keep the MOACA name. the MOACA name is Vs history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 Good idea you have my vote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 add the cdn teams but keep the MOACA name. the MOACA name is Vs history. Would it make sense to keep the last A if we're including players at Canadian clubs? The last A is for Abroad, right? Another solution to preserve MOACA may be to remove all USA based players and create something like "MOADC" (Mother of all domestic Canadians) that would include all North American players. I've always found it silly that USA based guys were considered "abroad" when we share the same system at the top few tiers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 How about "Mothers of All Canadians Abroad (and home)" just like that to preserve the tradition? I'm a little /shrug either way, personally, but I will do what I can to respect the tradition if it's important to others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Good idea but don't be afraid to make this scheme your own. I say it's probably time to sink the whole MoACA experience. She's been a moody bitch right from the start anyway. Move on! Time to bring a new (younger) friend to the party. People well figure it all out soon enough, or if they don't, they're probably too stupid to waste time talking to anyway. "Employed Canadians". "Pro-Canadians". "Paid Canadians". Whatever. You get the idea. Run with it, Monte! Run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Mother of All Canadians Available? As in available to play for Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 But, you have to include the world famous club Unattached FC, if you go at available Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 4, 2015 Author Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well either way the response has been positive. I'll leave naming it up to you all, but when the dust settles onto the USL Pro season and we can easily see which signees are where, then I shall add Canada to the list. That said, those that track the list know I sometimes get busy and don't update with fanatical religiousness. So if a player that bounces from TFC to TFC II and then back to TFC for like one game doesn't get moved every time someone higher on the food chain gets injured, felicitating his move to the main squad...just deal with it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Says a lot about the state of domestic league soccer that this is even an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 Says a lot about the state of domestic league soccer that this is even an option. It does, but still no Canadians on the Montreal Impact Champions League squad! Hopefully that will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Well either way the response has been positive. I'll leave naming it up to you all, but when the dust settles onto the USL Pro season and we can easily see which signees are where, then I shall add Canada to the list. That said, those that track the list know I sometimes get busy and don't update with fanatical religiousness. So if a player that bounces from TFC to TFC II and then back to TFC for like one game doesn't get moved every time someone higher on the food chain gets injured, felicitating his move to the main squad...just deal with it lol I wouldn't bother switching players from Whitecaps to Whitecaps2 for example. If they have an MLS contract, I would leave them listed under the first team. For example, even though Caleb Clarke and Kianz Froese will probably play the majority of their games with WFC2 they are first team players just getting minutes with the reserves. Where as Jordan Haynes and Jackson Farmer are signed to WFC2 and should thus be classified as third division players (for now). Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 I think it should be all in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 I wouldn't bother switching players from Whitecaps to Whitecaps2 for example. If they have an MLS contract, I would leave them listed under the first team. For example, even though Caleb Clarke and Kianz Froese will probably play the majority of their games with WFC2 they are first team players just getting minutes with the reserves. Where as Jordan Haynes and Jackson Farmer are signed to WFC2 and should thus be classified as third division players (for now). Just my opinion. We'll have to see. It's a tricky situation. My opinion is more the other way...if they barely play on the first team, played maybe one or two games at the start of the year, but then spend 90-100 percent of their time with the 2nd team for the rest of the year...I'm thinking I should switch them. For ME the goal is for people to easily go to other sites and track them. If I list said player as on the first team, they'll just think they don't play. If I list them on the 2nd team, the random fan coming on that DOESN'T know as much as us hardcores can go to the appropriate team and see they are playing tonnes of minutes on the reserves. If they dress at all for the main squad, and it's clear they are practicing with the main squad, and it's clear they are just going to Whitecaps II to get minutes, that MIGHT be different, as long as their main squad affiliation is prominent and obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 We'll have to see. It's a tricky situation. My opinion is more the other way...if they barely play on the first team, played maybe one or two games at the start of the year, but then spend 90-100 percent of their time with the 2nd team for the rest of the year...I'm thinking I should switch them. For ME the goal is for people to easily go to other sites and track them. If I list said player as on the first team, they'll just think they don't play. If I list them on the 2nd team, the random fan coming on that DOESN'T know as much as us hardcores can go to the appropriate team and see they are playing tonnes of minutes on the reserves. If they dress at all for the main squad, and it's clear they are practicing with the main squad, and it's clear they are just going to Whitecaps II to get minutes, that MIGHT be different, as long as their main squad affiliation is prominent and obvious I would do it like this. If the player is put on a long-term loan, he should stay with their second team (on loan from MLS team). If it's clear that it's a training/conditioning stint, I don't think it would be wise to put a player there if it's only for that. Then again, let's say that Carducci is the starter of the USL team in Vancouver and that Ousted is suspended for the next MLS match, Carducci would be called up for that one match and sent back after Ousted has served his ban, what would you do then? I think the example works better for goalkeepers, but I think it can be done for outfield players, ie I don't think that Louis Béland-Goyette would have been an Impact player if it wasn't for the massive injuries to Impact players last year. Although, I would suspect that you would have a ton of Canadian players on the 3 Canadian USL teams, so you will probably have about 50 Canadian players or so on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 5, 2015 Author Share Posted March 5, 2015 To drift from that conversation, but add to it, the same should be obvious for all MLS clubs, and their USL affiliates. For example Larin, Louisville, and Orlando. Not just TFC and TFC II, because in most ways, there is parity with how it will operate within the other structures where these teams have signed "farm teamesque" agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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