mluciani Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Not sure if this was mentioned but there is a plan for a change in the World Cup qualifying. See below: http://gff.gy/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Screen-Shot-2014-12-23-at-4.41.00-PM.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloyol Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I think we have an pretty good road until the group stage. Best case scenario for us is a group with the US (probably the best chance at away points among the top 3) T&T and Aruba or Dominican Rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It has already been discussed in other topics, but there's one thing interesting for us Canadians that we didn't get in previous leaks. Canada's second and potential third round match is even easier now. Canada will face the winner of a first round match in the second round, I don't see any team menacing Canada in that list. Assuming that Canada qualifies for the third round, they would face the winner of a second round match between the teams in the 16-21 range from the rankings used. 16-18 are Phillips Bakery's (That's St-Vincent for those who weren't there in 08), St. Lucia and Grenada. 19-21 are Antigua, Guyana, Puerto Rico. So, if that's how it will go down there's no El Salvador or Guatemala in the third round, I think it's safe to be calling for heads if the team doesn't make it to the final 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Round 2 and Round 3 should be relative cakewalks for us next year so our first challenge should be the group stage. The big question is can we beat one of Panama, Trinidad or Honduras in a group stage. I feel really good with Trinidad, reasonably confident with Panama and pretty nervous for Honduras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Round 2 and Round 3 should be relative cakewalks for us next year so our first challenge should be the group stage. The big question is can we beat one of Panama, Trinidad or Honduras in a group stage. I feel really good with Trinidad, reasonably confident with Panama and pretty nervous for Honduras. With Pinto coaching Honduras, we are kind of screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Pot D eh? Well, the source is the Guyana federation site, not CONCACAF directly. However, I suppose weird fixes are nothing unusual in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Perhaps Pinto will turn things around down there, because they have been abysmal since the World Cup. Personally, I think they are on a downturn, regardless of what coach they put in. All teams go through cycles. Right now is Costa Rica's time. Panama are stagnant but would still be very tough for us. Honduras scare me the least out of the Central American "Big Three". Aside from that, I expect us to get past Guatemala, El Salvador, or anyone else that is not named Mexico or the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCF08 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Perhaps Pinto will turn things around down there, because they have been abysmal since the World Cup. Personally, I think they are on a downturn, regardless of what coach they put in. All teams go through cycles. Right now is Costa Rica's time. Panama are stagnant but would still be very tough for us. Honduras scare me the least out of the Central American "Big Three". Aside from that, I expect us to get past Guatemala, El Salvador, or anyone else that is not named Mexico or the USA. Surinam can become a real force as well in this cycle if their government approves selecting players with dual-nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Surinam can become a real force as well in this cycle if their government approves selecting players with dual-nationality. Have they moved at all to allowing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Interesting Worst road: Nicaragua, Antigua & Barbuda, Mexico/Honduras/El Salvador Best road: Anyone but Nicaragua, St Lucia, Costa Rica/Trinidad/Aruba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Surinam can become a real force as well in this cycle if their government approves selecting players with dual-nationality. I can imagine a squad full of eredivisie players if that happens. Would definitely not want to face them if that scenaro plays out. Youre well versed in dutch football, can you tell us what players we might expect to face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCF08 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Have they moved at all to allowing that? The Surinamese government will take a decision on that next month. Surinam played an exhibition game today against Western Connection FC to gain support for the initiative. More than 6000 people turned up for the match and that was the highest attendance at a Surinamese football game in the last 40 years. I think it's highly unlikely that the bill will not pass. I can imagine a squad full of eredivisie players if that happens. Would definitely not want to face them if that scenaro plays out. Youre well versed in dutch football, can you tell us what players we might expect to face? Yes, these are some of the players that have publicly stated their interest in playing for Surinam. Some of them participated in the exhibition game today as well. A lot of them wanted to play as well but didn't get the approval from their clubs. A few still travelled to watch the match anyway. http://en.wikipedia....anni_Zuiverloon http://en.wikipedia....iki/Evander_Sno http://en.wikipedia..../Kelvin_Leerdam http://en.wikipedia....Royston_Drenthe http://en.wikipedia....i/Rydell_Poepon http://en.wikipedia..../Darryl_Lachman http://en.wikipedia....arvin_Zeegelaar http://en.wikipedia....Milano_Koenders http://en.wikipedia....novan_Slijngard http://en.wikipedia....i/Ryan_Koolwijk http://en.wikipedia....wight_Tiendalli http://en.wikipedia....ki/Marvin_Emnes http://en.wikipedia....iki/Glynor_Plet http://en.wikipedia....orian_Jozefzoon http://en.wikipedia....i/Tjaronn_Chery http://en.wikipedia....ki/Boy_Waterman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Donk http://en.wikipedia....Virgil_Misidjan http://en.wikipedia....i/Roland_Alberg http://en.wikipedia....iv_van_La_Parra http://en.wikipedia....candro_Breeveld http://en.wikipedia....iki/Dion_Malone http://en.wikipedia..../Lorenzo_Davids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eloy_Room http://en.wikipedia....gel_Hasselbaink http://en.wikipedia....rchinio_Antonia http://en.wikipedia..../Género_Zeefuik http://en.wikipedia..../Lorenzo_Burnet http://en.wikipedia....Mitchell_Donald http://en.wikipedia....liano_Wijnaldum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 It is nice to see. While I love Canada and want them to be the best, I want the region as a whole to get better. A better Suriname means a more competitive CONCACAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 ^While I agree with you on some level, I'd much prefer if these countries worked on building their own player development structures rather than living off the crumbs that fall from their former imperial overlords. We already have to play against England 'C' whenever we get drawn against Jamaica. Now, we're also going to get Holland 'B'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I'm not sure what the difference is when for decades 90% of our players were overseas, some weren't even born here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The way I see it is that Suriname have been doing themselves a huge disservice. I don't pretend to know the politics, but the rule they've had seems silly to me. If they allow all overseas players born in there to play... Look out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Man, we're a former colony. It just goes to show how that bastard Pearson fucked us with his (is dragged off of forum screaming and frothing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The way I see it is that Suriname have been doing themselves a huge disservice. I don't pretend to know the politics, but the rule they've had seems silly to me. If they allow all overseas players born in there to play... Look out Marc Bircham, Tony Menezes, and Milan Borjan are the only ones that I can think of off the top of my head that are/were a stretch in their Canadianess. I don't categorise overseas-born Canadians to be a problem, since we're a country of immigrants. What Jamaica and Suriname are looking to do is completely different. Most of the players on SCF08's list have never lived a day in Suriname. They are basically looking at fielding a team entirely of Owen Hargreaveses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 No offense, but if we're worried about Suriname then we got bigger problems than we thought. If you look at players who can potentially play for Suriname, you think they will be good enough to beat top 6 teams in CONCACAF? Given it isn't easy to play in this region due to travelling, awful refs, lack of quality facility and off-field distraction (like fans keeping team up all night ), you think these Europeans can handle all that? Keep in mind that Euro clubs don't approve of their CONCACAF based players playing a lot of games due to travel and potential injury. So these potential players have to keep that in mind if they want to play for Suriname while Suriname FA needs to their domestic players to play non-FIFA date games like Gold Cup qualification games. So it isn't home run for them as some of people here think it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Marc Bircham, Tony Menezes, and Milan Borjan are the only ones that I can think of off the top of my head that are/were a stretch in their Canadianess. I don't categorise overseas-born Canadians to be a problem, since we're a country of immigrants. What Jamaica and Suriname are looking to do is completely different. Most of the players on SCF08's list have never lived a day in Suriname. They are basically looking at fielding a team entirely of Owen Hargreaveses. Milan Borjan played Youth Soccer for Mt Hamilton during his teen years. His mother works for the City of Hamilton. He moved here when he was around 10. He didn't get capped by Canada till he was 24. He may not have been born here but he's just as Canadian as Danny Heatley or Daniel Nestor or Milos Raonic. Also wow. Royston Drenthe went from playing for Real Madrid to a Championship side and is still only 27. Thought he had more than 1 cap for Netherlands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Milan Borjan played Youth Soccer for Mt Hamilton during his teen years. His mother works for the City of Hamilton. He moved here when he was around 10. He didn't get capped by Canada till he was 24. He may not have been born here but he's just as Canadian as Danny Heatley or Daniel Nestor or Milos Raonic. Okay, I take it back with him. Although I knew his parents lived here, I thought his personal connection to Canada was much thinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 So the first round starts in March, less than 3 months. When is this "draw before the draw" going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xabuep2 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 January 15 will be CONCACAF 's draw in Miami according to La Prensa Grafica of El Salvador. 2014 August ´s ranking will be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 January 15 will be CONCACAF 's draw in Miami according to La Prensa Grafica of El Salvador. 2014 August ´s ranking will be used. Link: http://www.laprensagrafica.com/2015/01/06/inconformes-con-el-nuevo-formato I can't find anybody else who's reporting this but La Prensa Grafica is usually pretty reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloth8 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Link: http://www.laprensagrafica.com/2015/01/06/inconformes-con-el-nuevo-formato I can't find anybody else who's reporting this but La Prensa Grafica is usually pretty reliable. A tweet from the CSA today confirms that the preliminary draw will be on Thursday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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