Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Putting this on main board for most traction. The best thing this group has ever done in my opinion is to create the Voyageurs Cup. With news today that all three MLS teams creating USL-Pro sides I think it's time to repeat the process and create an award that's focused on younger teams. I humbly suggest we start a fundraising campaign to buy The Voyageurs Shield. We collectively would design it (a shield of some kind to set it apart from the Cup) and, at least in the beginning we use USL-Pro play to award the winner (with a baseline requirement of a certain amount of u23 Canadian minutes required to win). Unlike when we created the VCup we have an established working relationship with the CSA now. The goal of this project would be to eventually create a fully independent event for u23 Canadian teams. There are a lot of new Voyageurs that weren't around during the fundraising for the VCup. This is a chance to feel the type of ownership older Vs have with the VCup. Let's do this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I want PDL to be there too! Either way though, I would definitely support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironcub14 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 In. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Love the idea and the name....I proposed something of the sort back in 2009, albeit with limited traction. I combination of the two ideas would be ideal. http://www.thevoyageurs.org/index.php?/topic/17427-proposed-voyageurs-shield/?hl=%2Bvoyageurs+%2Bshield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reme90 Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Loves it! Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 In Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Duane, I have to say this seems a little hypocritical of you. On twitter you are critical of the whitecaps and others, saying that charging admission to USL pro games will move the focus from development to winning. Then at the same time, you suggest instituting a results based award on what is supposed to be a development pathway? Does winning matter? Is it a focus? Is it a priority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I'm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 I don't understand what the criteria would be. Would it be a tournament or like the Cascadia Cup or Juan de Fuca Plate (and the old VCup format) of an award for Canadian teams in an existing league? Sounds like something I want to support but I like to know these things first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Duane stated above it would start out how the Vs Cup began, as awarded to the Canadian team who earns the most points versus each other. Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 When I first became interested in CanSoc and heard that the Voyageur's fund raised the V's Cup, I was so impressed. I'd love to have a chance to help with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 A Voyageurs Shield sounds like a great idea to me. I'm confused as to how it would be awarded. Would it be kept to USL-PRO teams? Then it's only open to three, as that league isn't sanctioned in Canada. If NASL expands in Canada as projected, would those teams be eligible? I like the idea of incorporating PDL teams. I love the idea, but it's kinda vague for me so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sose Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 In! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I would be much more likely to contribute to a Voyageurs shield that is awarded to the best Canadian team in NASL, not to reserve teams that say that are going to focus on development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I'm in a well. What are we looking for per person? $100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 is there someone who actually does the organizing? Happy to help anyway possible to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'll talk to Duane about this soon. I think we should do this, but I also have to make sure we are not doing anything against our agreement with the use The Voyageurs cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'd also like to see the P.D.L. sides involved too. C'mon C.F.F.C., But either way, I'm in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 How would you do that...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yeah, as far as I can tell it would be nearly impossible to include PDL and NASL. I might have to retract my statement of joining this. Not sure why we would suddenly have a Shield for a bunch of farm teams. Right now there are no other Canadian teams in USL Pro. I would prefer to see this Shield for either the NASL or USL PDL. No need to continue to line the coffers of MLS teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think a USL Pro award has a limited ceiling; I don't see a way for it to become anything more than a derby for MLS reserve teams. That is my major objection to this highly worthy proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm in and great idea (both of you) Question is will they even play each other? USL-Pro is a regional setup to keep costs down. TFC2 and Impact2 might be in the same regional league but I doubt Vancouver will be. I suppose the 3 clubs could arrange home and home easily enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Maybe we should do a golden boot for any Canadian in the USLP. I was initially excited for this but I think lots of posters have brought up legitimate concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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