jpg75 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Investment of 5M Euros for individuals and 12.5M for group investment (min. 2M per investor within the group). Perhaps the 3rd party ownership is an attempt to bulk buy EU citizenship for multiple players? http://m.bbc.com/news/business-27674135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Humberlands Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Investment of 5M Euros for individuals and 12.5M for group investment (min. 2M per investor within the group). Perhaps the 3rd party ownership is an attempt to bulk buy EU citizenship for multiple players? http://m.bbc.com/news/business-27674135 Didn't TFC pay Trofense $2M for Jordan Hamilton to play in Portugal as part of the loan agreement? I remember that being odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 3rd party owner buys prospect players on the cheep. Waits until their transfer value is above 2m Euro (say 4m Euro at least), then sells the player on, cashing 2-3m Euros of the transfer fee in for a Cyprus passport along the way, moving 4-6 players at a time. So say they go out, scoured the globe for prospects that may in the near future command a +4m Euro transfer fee, but who's market value in these top EURO markets is being dragged down by not having an EU passport/not easily qualifying for a work permit. Perhaps they then acquire the rights to a few dozen players like Henry, and every year try to move 4-6 of them into Europe in a coordinated fashion, in order to take advantage of Cyprus' buy a passport law. 3rd party owner keeps the remainder of the fee. TFC or the players current club gets a percent of future sales. Player goes to Europe as a domestic. Everyone wins. Interesting concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Didn't TFC pay Trofense $2M for Jordan Hamilton to play in Portugal as part of the loan agreement? I remember that being odd. Really?!?! Pay to loan... you're right, that would be odd. do you have a link that confirms this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 3rd party owner buys prospect players on the cheep. Waits until their transfer value is above 2m Euro (say 4m Euro at least), then sells the player on, cashing 2-3m Euros of the transfer fee in for a Cyprus passport along the way, moving 4-6 players at a time. So say they go out, scoured the globe for prospects that may in the near future command a +4m Euro transfer fee, but who's market value in these top EURO markets is being dragged down by not having an EU passport/not easily qualifying for a work permit. Perhaps they then acquire the rights to a few dozen players like Henry, and every year try to move 4-6 of them into Europe in a coordinated fashion, in order to take advantage of Cyprus' buy a passport law. 3rd party owner keeps the remainder of the fee. TFC or the players current club gets a percent of future sales. Player goes to Europe as a domestic. Everyone wins. Interesting concept. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29408505 Read this on why 3rd party ownership is bad for clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Humberlands Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Really?!?! Pay to loan... you're right, that would be odd. do you have a link that confirms this? http://www.wakingthered.com/2014/8/1/5959017/jordan-hamilton-cd-trofense-loan-deal-two-million-dollars-toronto-fc-partnership I'm second guessing myself now as to where I read it, but this waking the red article has details to prove me otherwise. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Every nation within Europe has it's own rules regarding imports. Some are very strict (England), others not so (Cypres, Belgium). Even if they are strict, there are still ways to get in, but you'd need a bigger salary (Netherlands) or prove that you're an exceptional talent (England). If you have a passport for any EU-country, these rules wouldn't apply, cause then you'd be regarded as a local (Native) player of the EU. So it does make things easier, but isn't necessary. Daniel Haber is playing in Cypres as we all know. Btw, Latvia also has a scheme like that, it costs considerably less than in Cypress (250.000 euros). But it will get you a residency, not a citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 http://www.wakingthered.com/2014/8/1/5959017/jordan-hamilton-cd-trofense-loan-deal-two-million-dollars-toronto-fc-partnership I'm second guessing myself now as to where I read it, but this waking the red article has details to prove me otherwise. Sorry. I'm glad you linked this, because I was thinking that if I am paying a club 2 million to have Hamilton see the pitch, and he's primarily stapled to the bench, I would be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barthez-Battalion Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 SI's Brian Strauss is reporting that Apollon Limassol is the club Henry was sold to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I like Limassol. They are consecutive Europa League Group stage participants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Also nice to have a fellow Canadian there with Daniel Haber after his loan finishes. Do they have the same agent or did Haber recommend Henry? Seems too big a coincidence that there are two Canadians and no other players from our region the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It's not unknown for Canadian to play in Cyprus. Klukowski and Nakajima-Farran instantly come to mind as two more recent examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 One of the best places he could have landed outside of APOEL. Few other internationals in the squad (Cameroon, Romania, Ivory Coast, Morocco among others..) I am actually looking forward to him fighting for a starting spot there and prefer this over seeing him at TFC again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2014/12/henry-embarks-new-journey-europe This seems to confirm he's going now and won't be loaned for next year. Should he not be getting over there and starting to fight for playing time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2014/12/henry-embarks-new-journey-europe This seems to confirm he's going now and won't be loaned for next year. Should he not be getting over there and starting to fight for playing time? My guess is that he isn't allowed to until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 His Euro climb commences. He'll be 22 next spring so just as a lot of players would be graduating NCAA and starting a pro career his seems well under way. Knock'em dead Henry. Here's hoping he ends up in one of the big leagues over there shortly. Congratulations to him for all his hard work paying off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I like this move, gets him away from the shit show at TFC - especially after losing his spot to Nick Pylon Hagglund for some weird reason. Would have been better if he was going to a stronger league, but it's a start and it's a decent sized club too. Getting an EU passport will be HUGE for his career. As for TFC i'd like to see Henry replaced with an experience CB to partner with Caldwell. Hagglund isn't a starter (if i hadn't already made that clear). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanovski94 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The coach of Apollon Limasol is Ioan Andone, he was CFR Cluj coach in 2007-08. So he has worked with a Canadian(Lars) before. Now he has two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Like jpg75, I am also excited to see Henry play in Cyprus, and glad he is no longer with TFC. Up until now, he's gotten some solid MLS experience, a taste of CONCACAF Champions League, and a handful of international caps to his name. At 21 years old, this is a great time for him to start building a reputation in Europe. I don't mind at all that he is playing in Cyprus. He is with one of the strongest clubs and his game still needs work. In a few years, at 23/24 years of age, he could be poised to move on to a much stronger league (and apparently with an EU passport?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I find it hilarious when people rip on Doneil Henry. The guy is probably the best young center back Canada has ever produced.... Do you know who Randy Samuel is? I would assume you must have heard of Jason Devos to name but one other obvious candidate. There was soccer in Canada long before TFC arrived on the scene. Good luck to Doneil Henry in Cyprus, I hope it works out for him, but if he was as hot a prospect as you are hyping him up to be he would be going to one of the stronger leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 The Cyprus league may not be the best but it has a pretty technical style which should help him develop some areas lacking in his play. An even bigger advantage to him going to Cyprus is as we all know he is a "Red Card in a WCQ match in Honduras" waiting to happen and with any minor contact the Cypriot players go down like Hondurans in WCQ. If anything is going to cure Henry of his tendency towards rough careless play it will be playing in a league like Cyprus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I know who Samuel and Devos are, but I two would rate Henry as having a higher upside. He is big and very quick. Devos was certainly not quick, and Samuel wasn't as quick (although it was a different time). Neither of the 3 are / were good with their feet but I still think that in spite of Henry's brain farts, he is better than those 2 at his age. Does that mean he will become as good as those two? Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Do you know who Randy Samuel is? I would assume you must have heard of Jason Devos to name but one other obvious candidate. There was soccer in Canada long before TFC arrived on the scene. Good luck to Doneil Henry in Cyprus, I hope it works out for him, but if he was as hot a prospect as you are hyping him up to be he would be going to one of the stronger leagues. I don't disagree that some of the newer Nats fans lack memories but Devos went to play in the UK Tier 4 at the same age as Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I don't disagree that some of the newer Nats fans lack memories but Devos went to play in the UK Tier 4 at the same age as Henry. Yeah, and I would certainly take his situation (2nd best team Cyprus top flight/Likely Europa League participation) over playing in England's League two. So, In that regard, he's ahead of Devos right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Neither of the 3 are / were good with their feet but I still think that in spite of Henry's brain farts, he is better than those 2 at his age. I think Henry is better with the ball at his feet than we give him credit for. His errors in decision making are largely mental, not necessarily a lack of technical ability. Regardless, his technical ability should improve in that environment. As Grizzly pointed out, it is not the best league, but likely much more technical than MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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