Blackdude Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Obviously MLS would be a lot better league for him to be playing in but given that he signed with an oligarch club he might be getting paid a lot better there. Also he might be worried about getting tied to a contract that restricts him transferring if he signs in MLS, a lot easier to transfer upwards if he stays in Europe. I fully believe this especially looking at what happened to de Guzman, Hainault and Jakovic after MLS. (Bottom B2 side, Bad SPL team at the time, Average J. League team). MLS players know that once they leave the league, it's usually to go to a lower level. Those that get out to a higher level are either national team stars or Camilo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hope this is a short (i.e. until end of season deal)... and then leaves for bigger club/better league in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 From the sounds of a couple articles I saw, Borjan should be basically walking into the starting role, words like "numerous goalkeeping blunders" about their current keepers were used to describe why signing Borjan was a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Also, Borjan could try to do that and hopefully by next year, he can get an UK Work Permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I fully believe this especially looking at what happened to de Guzman, Hainault and Jakovic after MLS. (Bottom B2 side, Bad SPL team at the time, Average J. League team). MLS players know that once they leave the league, it's usually to go to a lower level. Those that get out to a higher level are either national team stars or Camilo. Debatable on Jakovic. I've always viewed his move as a small step up. At worse it's a lateral move in my eyes. I still think the J-League is a little better than MLS (for now) and when he left DC they were in shambles. So to me Dejan left for greener pastures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Debatable on Jakovic. I've always viewed his move as a small step up. At worse it's a lateral move in my eyes. I still think the J-League is a little better than MLS (for now) and when he left DC they were in shambles. So to me Dejan left for greener pastures. +1 Not to mention that the J-League team paid a fee for Jakovic. JDG's move from MLS wasn't a bad one either, to be able to latch on at a B2 team halfway through the season and be a consistent starter that was a step up. Hainault's was a very very small step down (if any) and it was just a half year thing where he was able to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 JDG was at a worse club than Dallas IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hope this is a short (i.e. until end of season deal)... and then leaves for bigger club/better league in June. This guy has career journeyman written all over him. It's a shame because he could really benefit from a 3-5 year spell at a decent club in an appropriate league where some of his terrible habits could be coached out of him and some of his extreme talent could be nurtured. Still think a top Norwegian club, a high Championship or mid-low B2 ( or Spain side would be a nice long-term goal for him. What about a club in Argentina after his time in South America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 IMO Borjan needs to go to a league where his shot blocking and distribution skills are emphasized, somewhere Latin-ish. MLS, northern Europe etc. would be poor choices. At this point his weakness on aerial balls will likely never be corrected and a wise goalkeeping coach would talk him into staying home on anything in the air - though with his exuberance that might be hard to do as well. Perhaps with age he'll settle down and stop making rash mistakes and let the game come to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 +1 Not to mention that the J-League team paid a fee for Jakovic. JDG's move from MLS wasn't a bad one either, to be able to latch on at a B2 team halfway through the season and be a consistent starter that was a step up. Hainault's was a very very small step down (if any) and it was just a half year thing where he was able to move on. True on Hainault, and also for deGuzman as well. He played half a season of B2 before playing top flight in Greece. Hard to say if those are step downs or lateral moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 it's too bad that Borjan would rather play for a minnow Euro team. then again, we don't know what his options were *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickC Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Looks like Borjan received a last minute offer from Ludogorets Razgrad and signed there. They're in Champions League group stage, up against Liverpool, Real Madrid, Basel. Not sure if he'll be a starter or on the bench for them as they have two GK, both have played for Bulgaria.. Found this news item: Unfortunately Milan Borjan’s move to FK Sarajevo was cancelled in the last minute. The goalkeeper opted instead for a move to Bulgarian side Ludogorets Razgrad. “Champions League is the reason for my change. I never played in that competition and I always wanted to do that one day. This Tuesday I have a chance to play against Liverpool with Ludogorets. The Bulgarian league is much better in quality as well. It also has better facilities and services,” said Borjan. He adds, “I agreed on everything with FK Sarajevo and all that was left was to sign the paper. However, Ludogorets offered me a contract in the last minute and it was an offer I could not reject.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Awesome. He could be starting next week as their regular starter was red carded in the last qualifier against Steau Bucharest. (A defender had to play goal cuz all 3 subs were made and he stopped 2 penalties in SO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 This would be much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Good to hear about Borjan. He won't be eligible for Champion's league because he signed after the registration deadline has past http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/uefaorg/Regulations/02/09/88/17/2098817_DOWNLOAD.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 This guy has career journeyman written all over him. It's a shame because he could really benefit from a 3-5 year spell at a decent club in an appropriate league where some of his terrible habits could be coached out of him and some of his extreme talent could be nurtured. Still think a top Norwegian club, a high Championship or mid-low B2 ( or Spain side would be a nice long-term goal for him. What about a club in Argentina after his time in South America? Agreed... if that's not his very next move, and if his next move isn't this summer, I also fear that ship would have failed. Canada vs. Jamaica game was a classic illustration of this. multiple game saving stops, but lets in a goal that would have been a routine set piece save with half-decent positioning. I will cut him slack though, as he'd been up of a job for a long time and looked really sharp despite that. But yes, he needs a stable club situation and good couple years as an established starter in a well coached league, at a decent level of play, to iron out the kinks in his game, and realize his considerable potential. I think it's still not too late, but the clock is ticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Good to hear about Borjan. He won't be eligible for Champion's league because he signed after the registration deadline has past http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/uefaorg/Regulations/02/09/88/17/2098817_DOWNLOAD.pdf So then why is he quoted as saying he signed specifically for the chance to play Champion's league? Liverpool next week? Hope he/his lawyer read the fine print here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 So then why is he quoted as saying he signed specifically for the chance to play Champion's league? Liverpool next week? Hope he/his lawyer read the fine print here? *shrug* I'm just saying, this is the rules for CL from UEFA site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Whatever. I suspect he'll be getting a decent paycheck and a chance at playing. CONGRATS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Any time one of our guys signs with a team that's playing Champions League or Europa League we should be very happy. This is a very good place for Borjan to go right now. Hopefully we can see him flourish there and get some exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Agreed... if that's not his very next move, and if his next move isn't this summer, I also fear that ship would have failed. Canada vs. Jamaica game was a classic illustration of this. multiple game saving stops, but lets in a goal that would have been a routine set piece save with half-decent positioning. I will cut him slack though, as he'd been up of a job for a long time and looked really sharp despite that. But yes, he needs a stable club situation and good couple years as an established starter in a well coached league, at a decent level of play, to iron out the kinks in his game, and realize his considerable potential. I think it's still not too late, but the clock is ticking. Funny how Borjan gets lambasted for this, and De Jong gets praised for his brilliant kick, but both goals, by De Jong, and the Jamaican player, were damn near identical. In fact, I'd say the Jamaican's free kick was actually better. Of course, the Canadians ran a dummy play, but still, the actual kick for the goal was very close. I don't really blame Borjan, he almost got it, and as free kicks go, that was bloody excellently taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/football-ludogorets-keeper-crisis-deepens-liverpool-visit-201611290--sow.html I don't like the fact that the other two main keepers at the club are both Bulgarian internationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Good to hear about Borjan. He won't be eligible for Champion's league because he signed after the registration deadline has past http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Regulations/uefaorg/Regulations/02/09/88/17/2098817_DOWNLOAD.pdf We'll see what happens. It would be really disappointing if he was lied to about being able to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Funny how Borjan gets lambasted for this, and De Jong gets praised for his brilliant kick, but both goals, by De Jong, and the Jamaican player, were damn near identical. In fact, I'd say the Jamaican's free kick was actually better. Of course, the Canadians ran a dummy play, but still, the actual kick for the goal was very close. I don't really blame Borjan, he almost got it, and as free kicks go, that was bloody excellently taken. Fair point, wasn't taking anything away from Borjan, I still thought he was one of the stars of the match and large part of why we won. Just saying he could have done better on that play, and a more complete and more match-fit keeper would have tipped that one over the bar. I thought De Jong's free kick was a trickier shot to deal with because of the dumbie, because it was slightly better placed, and because it was hit with a little more zip... Also Andre Blake wasn't exactly setting a world class standard himself. Edit: speaking of De Jong... despite scoring the goal De Jong easily could have cost us the match with his hail Mary interception attempts! Seriously, I can't imagine a player at a level as competitive as the Bundasliga attempting something so rash, and not getting shipped out of town at the next transfer window... let alone trying it twice in one game. Makes me kind of wonder how seriously he was taking the match. I don't watch his club play enough to know if he'd be prone to similar mistakes at club level, but don't imagine they'd keep him around very long if he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 We'll see what happens. It would be really disappointing if he was lied to about being able to play. Even more disappointing if both he and his agent missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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