apbsmith 1,152 Posted July 10 Yeeee and Bradley is my #1 choice to replace Herdman one day anyways. Not saying he ever would even take it and not saying Herdman will be let go, but ya Bradley still my top choice... Grass is not always greener on the other side. Let Kaye keep rolling at LaFc he is doing just fine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baulderdash77 1,799 Posted July 10 Kaye should definitely replace Hutch IMO. He’s so athletic and his technical performance has come so far. As much as Osorio has played very well for us I think a midfield of Arfield, Kaye and Piette would look super sharp going forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad_Impact 1,033 Posted July 11 (edited) 17 hours ago, Reign said: Does anyone think he mite be attracting some Europe interest ? He won’t be sold cheap so would probably have to be a club with money if he is. He's definitely getting some interest and if he keeps this up for the rest of the year, wouldn't be surprised to start seeing some solid rumors coming out. He's the type of player clubs love to have and the type that goes for a lot of $$$. I would personally love to seem him at a club like Lyon. Edited July 11 by Chad_Impact 1 king1010 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shway 1,622 Posted July 11 16 hours ago, baulderdash77 said: Kaye should definitely replace Hutch IMO. He’s so athletic and his technical performance has come so far. As much as Osorio has played very well for us I think a midfield of Arfield, Kaye and Piette would look super sharp going forward. Kaye does everything Piette does plus more. Swap Osorio for Piette. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad_Impact 1,033 Posted July 11 38 minutes ago, Shway said: Kaye does everything Piette does plus more. Swap Osorio for Piette. Idk about that, Piette is a stay at home CDM. He plays a very simple game and he does it well. Kaye, from what I've seen at least and correct me if I'm wrong, is MUCH more of a box to box CM. He's better suited with the freedom of going forward and coming back when he needs to. Osorio is in competition with Arfield and Kaye, while Piette's competition will be more with Eustaquio I believe. 3 Obinna, Northvansteve and nolando reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shway 1,622 Posted July 12 10 hours ago, Chad_Impact said: Idk about that, Piette is a stay at home CDM. He plays a very simple game and he does it well. Kaye, from what I've seen at least and correct me if I'm wrong, is MUCH more of a box to box CM. He's better suited with the freedom of going forward and coming back when he needs to. Osorio is in competition with Arfield and Kaye, while Piette's competition will be more with Eustaquio I believe. Check the opta stats, and get back to me. Duels, interceptions, clearances.... He does it all plus more. The CDM role has evolved into more than just staying at home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOcanadafan 53 Posted July 12 Yes, Kaye does seem to do it all... he needs to start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maccaliam 371 Posted July 12 I feel like it depends on the opponent and player availability. It is a beautiful thing that we should be able to change our midfield shape if we need to based on matchups and/or injuries, and still put out what should be a strong midfield/attack. 28 minutes ago, Shway said: Check the opta stats, and get back to me. Duels, interceptions, clearances.... He does it all plus more. The CDM role has evolved into more than just staying at home. I feel like it is less about whether Kaye can get the job done, than it is about him feeling restricted and worrying about our fragile backline being exposed if he pushes forward while playing without a more defensive minded player beside him. IMO Piette as the specialist 6 protects our d better and gives more freedom to the rest of the midfield/attack, meaning the rest of Kaye’s strengths are being utilized alongside the stats you are talking about. 1 Chad_Impact reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BearcatSA 204 Posted July 12 14 hours ago, Chad_Impact said: Idk about that, Piette is a stay at home CDM. He plays a very simple game and he does it well. Kaye, from what I've seen at least and correct me if I'm wrong, is MUCH more of a box to box CM. He's better suited with the freedom of going forward and coming back when he needs to. Osorio is in competition with Arfield and Kaye, while Piette's competition will be more with Eustaquio I believe. Kaye is a box to box guy, I guess what you would call an "8." I like Piette's ball winning skills and his distribution is steady but he has to pass himself out of pressure and against co-ordinated pressing from the opposition, that pass usually goes to a weaker possession player like one of our guys in the back line or the keeper, so then our ability to maintain a possession rhythm may get disrupted. The big strength of watching Hutch, JDG, and then Bernier in the autumn of his career in MLS is that those three had more confidence to dribble/turn out of trouble under pressure and release a more incisive pass. I'm not sure about Piette's first touch and skill in that area. Having said that, I could see Kaye and Piette working as a tandem and playing to each other's strengths and doing well together. I've never seen Eustaquio play so if I get to see him once he's healthy, maybe he becomes the lead guy ahead of Piette. Kaye's the kind of mid the Whitecaps need to go with Erice and Inboem. They are not going to get him but that's the kind of two way mid that would complement the other two. 1 Northvansteve reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macksam 1,496 Posted July 13 (edited) On 7/7/2019 at 9:24 AM, apbsmith said: https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2019-07-06-los-angeles-football-club-vs-vancouver-whitecaps-fc/recap Min 2:07 for those that might have missed it. Min 3:25 Montero's red card for his tackle on Kaye, Montero piece of ****. I like this new crop of Canadian players making bustling Pavel Nedved like runs before driving thunderous shots home. I see this with Kaye and a few guys in Can PL as well. Edited July 13 by Macksam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bison44 4,025 Posted July 30 Another interview from MLS on Kaye. They really love telling his story. https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/07/29/extratime-behind-lafcs-success-w-mark-anthony-kaye-easts-best-team 3 canta15, johnyb and apbsmith reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
canta15 1,736 Posted July 30 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bison44 said: Another interview from MLS on Kaye. They really love telling his story. https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/07/29/extratime-behind-lafcs-success-w-mark-anthony-kaye-easts-best-team Yea he says that he is trying to be the bigger man about the Toronto FC situation and that perhaps it is his attitude that was lacking. He also said that if it weren't for Louisville he wouldn't be in the position he is in today. About the CMNT, he stated that the Gold Cup was unfortunate but our team has developed so well in terms of talent because of all of our players developing at the same time Edited July 30 by canta15 3 Dominic94, king1010 and dyslexic nam reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nolando 1,004 Posted July 30 1 hour ago, canta15 said: Yea he says that he is trying to be the bigger man about the Toronto FC situation and that perhaps it is his attitude that was lacking. He also said that if it weren't for Louisville he wouldn't be in the position he is in today. About the CMNT, he stated that the Gold Cup was unfortunate but our team has developed so well in terms of talent because of all of our players developing at the same time Classy...so freakin classy. Love this guy. 3 dyslexic nam, johnyb and king1010 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 4,029 Posted August 3 https://www.tsn.ca/the-five-best-canadians-currently-playing-in-mls-1.1343581 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadenge 1,391 Posted August 12 another strong game at CM for MAK who went 86' in a 4-2 win over NYRB. He had a goal called back by VAR....seems to move from right to left CM during the game and as usual was involved in most of LAFC attacking plays and also breaking up plays on defense. Massive box to box player. I hope we never see him at LB for the CMNT again 3 Obinna, Corazon and apbsmith reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obinna 5,356 Posted August 12 35 minutes ago, Kadenge said: another strong game at CM for MAK who went 86' in a 4-2 win over NYRB. He had a goal called back by VAR....seems to move from right to left CM during the game and as usual was involved in most of LAFC attacking plays and also breaking up plays on defense. Massive box to box player. I hope we never see him at LB for the CMNT again With Miller putting in good performances for Orlando, you may get your wish. I hope Miller and Adekugbe show enough consistency and quality to secure the position, with Davies slotting in when necessary but otherwise playing further forward. That would be a great scenario, because two of those 3 players can feature in multiple positions. We would only have to call a single out-and-out left back in Adekugbe. Morgan can be the guy on the outside of the team looking in, along with De Jong possibly when he finally recovers. Then moving forward the young players coming up through the CPL, such as Langwa, can push our veteran left backs. *Davies Adekugbe Miller ------------------------ Morgan De Jong New challengers 1 Kadenge reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOcanadafan 53 Posted August 12 6 hours ago, Kadenge said: another strong game at CM for MAK who went 86' in a 4-2 win over NYRB. He had a goal called back by VAR....seems to move from right to left CM during the game and as usual was involved in most of LAFC attacking plays and also breaking up plays on defense. Massive box to box player. I hope we never see him at LB for the CMNT again There’s so much to like about MAK’s game right now, and I agree, he needs to be a part of our midfield and not as a LB. I also like that he is playing with so many other quality players in an LAFC team that moves the ball around so quickly and efficiently... and because of this I do see him occasionally lose concentration, getting caught flat footed at times - a touch late making an attacking run, making an errant short pass, or a tad slow in reading potential dangers / defensive responsibilities when his teammates turn the ball over. These are just minor criticisms but overall there’s just so many positives and enough talent and athletic ability that I could see him definitely moving on (and up) from MLS in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadenge 1,391 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, TOcanadafan said: There’s so much to like about MAK’s game right now, and I agree, he needs to be a part of our midfield and not as a LB. I also like that he is playing with so many other quality players in an LAFC team that moves the ball around so quickly and efficiently... and because of this I do see him occasionally lose concentration, getting caught flat footed at times - a touch late making an attacking run, making an errant short pass, or a tad slow in reading potential dangers / defensive responsibilities when his teammates turn the ball over. These are just minor criticisms but overall there’s just so many positives and enough talent and athletic ability that I could see him definitely moving on (and up) from MLS in the future. Astute observations and agree there are gaps in his game, but keep in mind that MAK only played 1/2 season last year his first in MLS and had to rehab from a horrendous injury; so about 1 season of MLS experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aird25 548 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, TOcanadafan said: I do see him occasionally lose concentration, getting caught flat footed at times - a touch late making an attacking run, making an errant short pass, or a tad slow in reading potential dangers / defensive responsibilities when his teammates turn the ball over. I imagine a critical eye could find similar errors with any player on the planet. The key is to compare positive contributions vs negative contributions, and I would say MAK is undoubtedly in the green this season. I've been quite impressed with his overall performances and consistency this season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
red card 613 Posted August 13 (edited) The real question is with MAK & Davies in the midfield, which midfielders are you then going to sit. Besides beeing weak on the backline, the other reason MAK & Davies played in the back was to get all our top players in the starting 11. Basically, you're playing Miller or Adekugbe instead of...Hoilett, Piette, Hutchinson, Eustaquio or Osorio. Edited August 13 by red card 2 shamrock and Obinna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kadenge 1,391 Posted August 13 3 minutes ago, red card said: The real question is with MAK & Davies in the midfield, which midfielders are you then going to sit. Besides beeing weak on the backline, the other reason MAK & Davies played in the back was to get all our top players in the starting 11. Basically, you're playing Miller or Adekugbe instead of...Hoilett, Piette, Hutchinson, Eustaquio or Osorio. Depending on club form and a 4 3 3, Davies Cav and David up front MAK Arfield and Atiba or Eustaquio in midfield with a back 4 of Adekugbe Henry James and ZBG/Cordova. national teams have quality players on the bench and that's what you need to win games....bring on a Hoilett or Osorio at 60 min if we need a goal. Adekugbe is probably the best defensive left back we have. He started every game last year for Valerenga and doing the same this season. That should be a priority to shore up our weak back 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
An Observer 332 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Kadenge said: Depending on club form and a 4 3 3, Davies Cav and David up front MAK Arfield and Atiba or Eustaquio in midfield with a back 4 of Adekugbe Henry James and ZBG/Cordova. national teams have quality players on the bench and that's what you need to win games....bring on a Hoilett or Osorio at 60 min if we need a goal. Adekugbe is probably the best defensive left back we have. He started every game last year for Valerenga and doing the same this season. That should be a priority to shore up our weak back 4. I think Adekugbe should get a match or two there to see what he does. I am not against Davies playing there if we cant get anyone up to scratch in that position especially if he continues to get time there at Bayern (I recognise the downside to this but it is what it is). Also, hopefully Bassong gets time at Cercle Brugges and pushes into the picture (and switches to Canada). I am more concerned about the right back position as none of the options seem to be great at this point. Hopefully, in the next year or so one of Cordova, ZBG or Godinho steps up to claim the position. Or someone else emerges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obinna 5,356 Posted August 13 1 hour ago, red card said: The real question is with MAK & Davies in the midfield, which midfielders are you then going to sit. Besides beeing weak on the backline, the other reason MAK & Davies played in the back was to get all our top players in the starting 11. Basically, you're playing Miller or Adekugbe instead of...Hoilett, Piette, Hutchinson, Eustaquio or Osorio. Even more precisely put: who is a better left back, Kaye or Adekugbe? Davies or Adekugbe? Kaye and Davies are better players overall, which makes them more effective at left back than Adekugbe (or Miller) - or so the logic goes. I would like to see an Adekugbe or Miller there though..just to see how they do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bertuzzi44 1,476 Posted August 13 3 hours ago, red card said: The real question is with MAK & Davies in the midfield, which midfielders are you then going to sit. Besides beeing weak on the backline, the other reason MAK & Davies played in the back was to get all our top players in the starting 11. Basically, you're playing Miller or Adekugbe instead of...Hoilett, Piette, Hutchinson, Eustaquio or Osorio. Yeah, that didn't work and I think has to end. If there is competition at certain positions, that is great. Bending over backwards to get everyone on at once turned out not to be the best idea. We should have a formation, and proper competition at each position. So for instance at CM, it is either Kaye or Osorio or Eustáquio, or whoever is on top form. Yes, good players will have to sit, but that will give us great depth and flexibility. And then play proper LBs and LB and RBs at RB, etc. 4 1 BearcatSA, Obinna, Kadenge and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obinna 5,356 Posted August 13 40 minutes ago, Bertuzzi44 said: Yeah, that didn't work and I think has to end. If there is competition at certain positions, that is great. Bending over backwards to get everyone on at once turned out not to be the best idea. We should have a formation, and proper competition at each position. So for instance at CM, it is either Kaye or Osorio or Eustáquio, or whoever is on top form. Yes, good players will have to sit, but that will give us great depth and flexibility. And then play proper LBs and LB and RBs at RB, etc. I suspect that Herdman goes out of his way to keep his star players happy. If they buy in, the team buys in. Forcing square pegs in round holes helps him avoid some very uncomfortable discussions, I bet. All speculation of course, but I can't help but wonder... 1 El Hombre reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites