Keegan Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Look around the league.. Cameroon and Australia are taking players from NYRB for friendlies while that club is in a much worse situation. Thanks MLS. Such a great domestic league for us, always helping us out and sticking up for our CMNT. We'll be in the World Cup in no time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I really doubt Ecuador had to insist anything. RSL definitely got a call from Ecuador for Plata and they couldn't say no.. how could they? Plata is their best player and he has been waiting for an Ecuador call for over 3 years now , not like they can go "hey thanks for all the goals but you're not going to that call you've been waiting for". With Akindele Dallas can either say "they'll call you next month" or "you can probably get called to USMNT or Nigeria, stay with us and score some more". What leverage do we have? It's not like there is consistent competition at the moment it's only a matter of time before he gets called whether he scores another goal all year or not. What i mean by insist is that it is a FIFA date and clubs MUST release the players if they are formally asked to. Problem with us is our players don't want to play for their country because it's an embarassment and a waste of their time. So even if we insist we risk the player retiring internationally (Johnson) or choosing another country to play for (Akindele). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzx Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Just had a brainwave. Our next game after Sept 9th is November 18th in Panama... right in the middle of MLS playoffs. Dallas will certainly make the playoffs, with the first round probably taking place around November 5th to 9th, perhaps 12th. If they lose there, then Tesho is certain to come to Panama. He'll have a full week to recuperate and no commitments. But if Dallas make it to the Conference finals... We're fucked. They take place right during the CMNT game. Probably Nov 16th and 20th, or perhaps 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/08/25/ecuador-call-real-salt-lake-sparkplug-joao-plata-friendlies-bolivia-brazil So RSL is willing to let Plata miss their showdown against Dallas so he can go play for Ecuador, but Dallas are not willing to release Tesho. Very curious that. Yeah Tesho probably wants to play for the US, and this is just a good excuse for him. Don't blame the guy he is more american now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 If they lose there, then Tesho is certain to come to Panama. He'll have a full week to recuperate and no commitments. If he doesn't, time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 If he doesn't, time to move on. lol I know right, but this is a board that will probably still have people asking if Jonathan can switch to Canada three years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzx Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) If he doesn't, time to move on. No. The next game will probably be December/January. We try again then. We keep pushing till the minute Klinnsman calls him up, and no sooner. Edited August 26, 2014 by fuzzx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crampton Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 MLS does NOTHING for us as a nation. Yes, "nothing" (he says as he rages against the inequity of a player declining a potential, not even offered, call-up who wouldn't even be in on the radar of Canada if it hadn't been for the opportunity provided by the very thing he's opining against). Well argued, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Yes, "nothing" (he says as he rages against the inequity of a player declining a potential, not even offered, call-up who wouldn't even be in on the radar of Canada if it hadn't been for the opportunity provided by the very thing he's opining against). Well argued, sir. I've actually been against MLS for a while this situation is just another obvious barrier to us. Tesho is on an MLS team because he has a green card, if he was any other Canadian he would never be given a chance. What about Will Johnson? A once key player who we haven't seen in a year and a half due to MLS scheduling? People keep saying "they'll be there when the games matter" ...that is going to be too late. I'd love to hear Floro's thoughts on our joke of a domestic league.. he only has about 4-5 players playing regularly and of those players he's lucky if he can get half on an international date. Ask yourself.. if this was an American hot shot prospect who they were all excited about i.e. Dom Dwyer gets his US citizenship and a call up would he be staying with his club? No chance. Why isn't Cubo Torres staying at Chivas? Cahill at NYRB? These are big name players.. bigger than Johnson or Akindele. Edited August 26, 2014 by Keegan narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I've actually been against MLS for a while this situation is just another obvious barrier to us. Tesho is on an MLS team because he has a green card, if he was any other Canadian he would never be given a chance. What about Will Johnson? A once key player who we haven't seen in a year and a half due to MLS scheduling? People keep saying "they'll be there when the games matter" ...that is going to be too late. I'd love to hear Floro's thoughts on our joke of a domestic league.. he only has about 4-5 players playing regularly and of those players he's lucky if he can get half on an international date. Ask yourself.. if this was an American hot shot prospect who they were all excited about i.e. Dom Dwyer gets his US citizenship and a call up would he be staying with his club? No chance. Why isn't Cubo Torres staying at Chivas? Cahill at NYRB? These are big name players.. bigger than Johnson or Akindele. Because he is not going to play for Canada. Its a great way to get your name out there, tease national team fans from a bunch of countries.. his name will become more familiar, perhaps help with his stock. I would give a 8-10% chance he suits up for Canada, I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't get what Cubo Torres or Tim Cahill have to do with the issue at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't get what Cubo Torres or Tim Cahill have to do with the issue at hand. They are missing MLS games to play for their national teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't really understand all the hate for MLS; it has flaws from the CNMT perspective but it wasn't built to help Canada out. It's a for-profit professional league (just like any other) that just happens to have three cities in Canada with teams in it. If it weren't for MLS, players like Will Johnson, Jonathan Osorio, Russell Teibert, Maxim Tissot and others would either be in Europe or not playing high level football. I'd like to think of MLS as just any other league in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 They are missing MLS games to play for their national teams. Ah, well they may end up being in the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Interesting conversation going on here regarding about MLS role in Canadian soccer. I personally have been saying this for years (and sick of saying this), but only way Canadian soccer will ever improve if we have our own professional league where we can develop hundred of players through pro league which will increase quality and quantity of players for national team. Right now, we don't have too many Canadians playing full time for their clubs in MLS and overseas which is affecting quality for national team while we got guys like Tesho using Canadian soccer and supporters to pressure other nations to cap tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) I don't get what Cubo Torres or Tim Cahill have to do with the issue at hand. They are missing MLS games to play for their national teams Rudi. Cahill and the Cameroonian fella on NYRB in particular missing is pretty shocking, NYRB are in a worse situation than Dallas PLUS they have CCL matches and on top of that those two are travelling across continents.. not a few hours to Toronto. Cahill needs to be at the end of the road for the socceroos and he's one of the highest paid players in the league. The point is that Cahill in every single aspect has less of a reason to get to his friendly than Johnson or Akindele. Key to his team, sorely needed at this time, higher paid, longer travel etc. etc. But hey, maybe we just need some players who actually want to play for Canada. When Johnson was with RSL he would fly across continents for a cap... now a days there is no chance, Toronto may as well be Taiwan. Edited August 26, 2014 by Keegan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 ^ if I'm not mistaken, Johnson is missing for the birth of a child. That's not exactly a poor reason to be absent from this match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 ^ if I'm not mistaken, Johnson is missing for the birth of a child. That's not exactly a poor reason to be absent from this match. +1. People have been crapping on Johnson a lot since he left the Gold Cup due to illness. Getting kinda tiring to read... Obinna and IceCreamMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 +1. People have been crapping on Johnson a lot since he left the Gold Cup due to illness. Getting kinda tiring to read... i dont understand people being upset over his absence. johnson is your typical one dimensional run all day physical american midfielder with no dribbling ability. a step down from hutch, deguz, and bernier. we should move away from this type of player and focus on the next generation. tiebert and osorio have the creativity, dribbling and speed we want in our central midfield, not to mention bekker, piette, aleman. Johnson may as well be finished with the CMNT. who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 i dont understand people being upset over his absence. johnson is your typical one dimensional run all day physical american midfielder with no dribbling ability. a step down from hutch, deguz, and bernier. we should move away from this type of player and focus on the next generation. tiebert and osorio have the creativity, dribbling and speed we want in our central midfield, not to mention bekker, piette, aleman. Johnson may as well be finished with the CMNT. who cares? I don't think we are watching the same Will Johnson if you think he is currently a step down from deguz and bernier. I think JDG was better in his prime than Johnson is right now, while Bernier in his prime vs Johnson right now is probably a toss up. Different playing styles certainly. Johnson has a great engine and gets stuck in (like your "typical" American midfielder), but he is not a terrible dribbler. Also, he has better shooting ability than anyone listed there. The only one who trumps him would be Bekker on free kicks. With Portland Johnson drives forward from the centre of the field to great effect. He isn't our saviour but I am happy we have him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzx Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't see any need to bring Bernier into the conversation, seeing him day to day, it's clear that he's taken a step down. He can still help the impact, perhaps for years more, but he's done as far as CNMT is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crampton Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 If Canada had a team of typical American midfielders we might actually make the hex again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 i dont understand people being upset over his absence. johnson is your typical one dimensional run all day physical american midfielder with no dribbling ability. a step down from hutch, deguz, and bernier. we should move away from this type of player and focus on the next generation. tiebert and osorio have the creativity, dribbling and speed we want in our central midfield, not to mention bekker, piette, aleman. Johnson may as well be finished with the CMNT. who cares? Although I also favour technical players over athletes that simply run around the field, I disagree with your assessment. Midfielders who chew up ground in the right system free up attackers to look good. De Guzman and Bernier are on their last legs. They have difficultly keeping up with the play at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 If Canada had a team of typical American midfielders we might actually make the hex again. I'd rather have a midfield of 4 Atiba Hutchinsons and make the World Cup. jpg75 and A_Gagne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) I'd rather have a midfield of 4 Atiba Hutchinsons and make the World Cup. Canada has a long way to go before it reaches the level of a "typical" USMNT midfield. Edited August 29, 2014 by Rudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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