jpg75 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't know what your point is. You won't support Bustos until he's permanently cap tied to Canada? Ok, great, I'm not prepared to hold grudges against an 18 year old for something he 'might' do. No, i'm holding grudges for something he did do! The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Now what is your point? You think he learned his lesson based on what exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Exactly, are we supposed to not call him up at all now? just like the LA girlfriend scenario would mean you'd break up completely? Also Keegan, what's the age where players get a free pass to represent their new country? Tesho moved at 8, so he's fine, but JDG2 moved at 12 (and had his heart set on the Oranje years earlier) so he's public enemy no. 1? You get even with the girlfriend by sending her a pic of her friend blowing you (i mean c'mon her friend ratted her out for a reason, right?). Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 This still doesn't cap him permanently to us. Why should i or anyone else believe he won't do it again? Chill... if he plays hard and with pride for Canada then great. If he screws us, wouldn't be the first guy (or gal) to do so... not waiting my time getting bent out of shape about what ifs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Chill... if he plays hard and with pride for Canada then great. If he screws us, wouldn't be the first guy (or gal) to do so... not waiting my time getting bent out of shape about what ifs. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Back to Tesho...better player than Ricketts? Maybe in the future. Certainly not right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sébastien Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Back to Tesho...better player than Ricketts? I would argue that Tesho has the potential to be a better finisher than Ricketts, but don't know if that's the case now, and certainly Ricketts can create more than Tesho presently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You get even with the girlfriend by sending her a pic of her friend blowing you (i mean c'mon her friend ratted her out for a reason, right?). Who's the friend in this instance? Froese? Carducci? OK I'll stop now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Akindele: “Like, people know me now, I’ve had a big year. I’m just trying to kind of process everything slowly, not rush into any decisions." “Any decisions I make right now affect me for the rest of my career, so I just want to take everything slow and understand where I’m at.” “I kind of explain it like: You have two parents. You have allegiances to both of them,” Akindele said. “That’s kind of how I feel because I was born in Canada, obviously it’s my birth country, most of my family lives in Canada, but also I grew up in the U.S., so I’m pretty loyal to both countries.” http://www.goal.com/en-ca/news/4176/united-states/2014/11/13/6124331/fc-dallas-standouts-mull-national-team-prospects?CMPID=FBCAN_141113_FCD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWFC Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 No, i'm holding grudges for something he did do! The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Now what is your point? You think he learned his lesson based on what exactly? So your holding grudges against an 18 year old who just walked off the pitch wearing the Canadian colours? I guess that means you have a grudge against Froese as well? Who needs enemies with CMNT supporters like you. If you don't know what my point is by now there is not much I can do to help you understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So your holding grudges against an 18 year old who just walked off the pitch wearing the Canadian colours? I guess that means you have a grudge against Froese as well? Who needs enemies with CMNT supporters like you. If you don't know what my point is by now there is not much I can do to help you understand it. Classic 12 yr old genius post from VWFC. No reasoning why you think Bustos learned his lesson - must be me who doesn't understand your complex arguments! Why is Froese different? He is now permanently capped. It's sketchy that he left the Manitoba provincial program to play for Cuba, but i'll look past it now. Bustos will need to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Classic 12 yr old genius post from VWFC. No reasoning why you think Bustos learned his lesson - must be me who doesn't understand your complex arguments! Why is Froese different? He is now permanently capped. It's sketchy that he left the Manitoba provincial program to play for Cuba, but i'll look past it now. Bustos will need to do the same. So until Bustos is permanently capped you're going to hate him? So by that logic he can play for Canada U20 in the world cup, score the winning goal in the final and you'll still hate him cuz he isn't capped to us, something which is out of his control... makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWFC Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Classic 12 yr old genius post from VWFC. No reasoning why you think Bustos learned his lesson - must be me who doesn't understand your complex arguments! Good one buddy. I'm not going to hate on a player who played for Canada 24 hours ago. I was pissed off when he went to the Chile camp and will be if he does it again, but in the meantime he's sporting the red and white and therefor, in my mind, he's deserving of our support. Edited November 13, 2014 by VWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So until Bustos is permanently capped you're going to hate him? So by that logic he can play for Canada U20 in the world cup, score the winning goal in the final and you'll still hate him cuz he isn't capped to us, something which is out of his control... makes sense. Who the fuck said i hate him!? My first post about this was because baulderdash equated the Akindele and Bustos incidences to be similar and that we shouldn't be negative about either - which is BS!! We have a right to be pissed about what he did and to be weary that he might do it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWFC Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) . Edited November 14, 2014 by VWFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yup, we all agree what he did was wrong, but in case you missed my earlier posts, he's playing for Canada. Mistake made, (hopefully) learning from it, playing for Canada. Time to move on. Good one buddy. I'm not going to hate on a player who played for Canada 24 hours ago. I was pissed off when he went to the Chile camp and will be if he does it again, but in the meantime he's sporting the red and white and therefor, in my mind, he's deserving of our support. So i see you edited your post on this page. The first post above is where you said he hopefully learned from his mistake. Glad you realize you said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Who the fuck said i hate him!? My first post about this was because baulderdash equated the Akindele and Bustos incidences to be similar and that we shouldn't be negative about either - which is BS!! We have a right to be pissed about what he did and to be weary that he might do it again. Rawr. Easy tiger. No need to swear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 These threads get really boring when they turn in to pissing matches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWFC Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 These threads get really boring when they turn in to pissing matches! Wait till you read the Bryce Alderson thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Wait till you read the Bryce Alderson thread. Don't bother. VWFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Akendele if he wants to play in Red and White great but if decides to play for Gods team (U>S>A>) then oh well. He was has lived in the States so really he owes us nothing. But it will better if he played for us because there will be a lot of competion for a place in the U.S. Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 As far as Bustos goes Who gives a flying Fuck. I am tired of these Anti Canadians of Soccer like Whoregraves, De Guzman, Hoilett, and that other kid who plays SKC his dad represented Canada for years I forget his name. Screw them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Bustos can go to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDub Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 gigi riva- I disagree with you saying he owes us nothing. Yes he has lived in the states since he was 8 so maybe he does feel more American. Only he can answer that but if that is the case, when did he start feeling more American? It definitely wasn't when he was using our youth program was it? He was with our youth program when no one else wanted him. Now you say he owes us nothing? Loyalty my friend. Canada was there when no one else was and now he is getting a sniff from USMNT and we are put on the back burner. He owes us, he owes us for those youth camps and he owes us because he is Canadian. gigi riva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 gigi riva- I disagree with you saying he owes us nothing. Yes he has lived in the states since he was 8 so maybe he does feel more American. Only he can answer that but if that is the case, when did he start feeling more American? It definitely wasn't when he was using our youth program was it? He was with our youth program when no one else wanted him. Now you say he owes us nothing? Loyalty my friend. Canada was there when no one else was and now he is getting a sniff from USMNT and we are put on the back burner. He owes us, he owes us for those youth camps and he owes us because he is Canadian. He was at ONE youth camp at the U17 level. That doesn't bother me to be honest, he even admitted that he didn't play well which is why he never got called back. I'd be upset if he was continually getting called then changed his mind. Canada decided at that point that they were no longer interested in him after that one camp, so I don't mind him feeling the same way now. My only problem is the whole back and forth. Just pick a country and be done with it. Drives me absolutely nuts as a supporter as we seem to deal with fence sitters more than anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrue17 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Who's Tesho Akindele again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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