Big_M Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 That is correct. Meant to say the players who are playing in European academies and who will make it as professionals. Most of them won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 My current prospects list (ie, not a 22/23 year old in pro soccer for a while) 1. Ballou Tabla - when I watch him, he just has "it" 2. Alphonso Davies - all the promise in the world at such a young age 3. Adonijah Reid - I don't know where he's playing right now, but he was the best player on the field in the two game series vs USA u18 last year. Skill, speed and a nose for goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coin Toss Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 So many good young players drop off. Are we ranking prospects on how good they are for their age group, or how far we think they will go professionally? I'm interested in whether talent will translate into successful careers, and think our young prospects should look at Atiba, who moved his way up gradually throughout his career. I would tend to favour players like Larin, Shome, or Zanatta (although he hasn't played this season yet) who are already showing they can hold down first team jobs, over players in USL or U-20 squads. But I guess the main thing is steady progression and mastery at each level, and taking the chances they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 On September 10, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Michael Crampton said: Larin's greatest attribute is his quick release: the ability to generate power and accuracy without a hard plant and very little pull back on his kicking leg. You think he doesn't have the space and before you blink the ball is in the back of the net. But to make it work, you need to get him the ball between the penalty spot and the top of the 18, inside the width of the 6. Strangely, Canada fans don't seem to have any awareness of how good he is at this... It's almost like he never gets the ball in those areas... (He is somewhat weak on one-on-ones and doesn't make the best decisions on the break.) When a guy doesn't telegraph his shot, he's pretty dangerous. I like that about Larin, too. But he really needs to work on and have confidence with using his left peg. That outside-of-the-right-boot thing needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Wyn Belotte was probably ranked higher than Atiba Hutchinson 16 years ago, so I don't really care about prospects because some will make it and some will not and there's no way knowing who will make it. BearcatSA and BCM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The 5 U-20 players that I try to watch the most when I can are Shome, Zanatta, Davies, Tabla and Chung. I have no idea if they will make an impact or not, but they all seem to be doing well at their respective levels right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 5 hours ago, Blackdude said: Wyn Belotte was probably ranked higher than Atiba Hutchinson 16 years ago, so I don't really care about prospects because some will make it and some will not and there's no way knowing who will make it. Yea but we just got knocked out of World Cup qualifying yet again, so we need something to talk about / some hope! lol gator, Northvansteve and ray 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Posted July 21, 2017 Author Share Posted July 21, 2017 Nice, back to this thread again. Under 23: 1) Davies 2) Larin 3) Tabla 4) Petrasso 5) Froese I'm going to go off on a tangent and put Froese in there. Real athletic ability, technical ability, and a promising last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northvansteve Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 21 hours ago, Bully said: Nice, back to this thread again. Under 23: 1) Davies 2) Larin 3) Tabla 4) Petrasso 5) Froese I'm going to go off on a tangent and put Froese in there. Real athletic ability, technical ability, and a promising last season. Froese clearly would have been on the Gold Cup roster in place of Kaye had he not been competing for his club's starting roster and he would have been a big upgrade from Kaye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) On 2016-09-11 at 0:52 AM, BCM1555362349 said: We've always had a number of players at pretty good academies. None seem to make it - I'm thinking of the defender at PSG, numerous keepers, etc. Who's the defender at PSG? Edited July 22, 2017 by SpecialK badname22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 U20s eligible for Canada: 1) Davies 2) Tabla 3) Tomori 4) Akinola 5) Millar SpecialK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Remember when our U-20 team beat England's ? And that led to them "discovering" Tomori.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: Remember when our U-20 team beat England's ? And that led to them "discovering" Tomori.. Blame Rashford http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/how-marking-marcus-rashford-set-chelsea-youngster-fikayo-tomori-up-for-england-u20-starring-role-a3559836.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 30 minutes ago, harrycoyster said: U20s eligible for Canada: 1) Davies 2) Tabla 3) Tomori 4) Akinola 5) Millar Tomori's long gone boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, canta15 said: Tomori's long gone boss It's entirely possible Tomori and Akinola end up not being good enough for their preferred national teams. The question with Tomori is whether Canada is even his second choice anymore. 22 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: Remember when our U-20 team beat England's ? And that led to them "discovering" Tomori.. It may have expedited the process, but Tomori was already the starting u18 CB at Chelsea. It's not like he was playing in Brampton and England plucked him from us, he was always a known English national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, harrycoyster said: It's entirely possible Tomori and Akinola end up not being good enough for their preferred national teams. The question with Tomori is whether Canada is even his second choice anymore. It may have expedited the process, but Tomori was already the starting u18 CB at Chelsea. It's not like he was playing in Brampton and England plucked him from us, he was always a known English national. yea it is a possibility but as of right now they are 't our prospects. They don't put on the Red and White. Is Cristante our prospect too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Just now, canta15 said: yea it is a possibility but as of right now they are 't our prospects. They don't put on the Red and White. Is Cristante our prospect too? I labelled it U20s eligible for Canada, if we are talking players that are 100% committed to the program: 1) Davies 2) Millar 3) Hundal 4) Zanatta 5) Chung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 10 hours ago, SpecialK said: Who's the defender at PSG? Forgot his name, it's from maybe 5-7 years ago. He's an example of those who were at a top club academy and didn't make it. Note - If I remember his name I'll update edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 James Chalk. He's a '92. There are literally a dozen examples from the past 2 decades of guys at top academies who went nowhere. BCM and Pottsy3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, jpg75 said: James Chalk. He's a '92. There are literally a dozen examples from the past 2 decades of guys at top academies who went nowhere. That's the name ... and that's my point. So, so many high level academy kids fizzle -- this is not just a Canadian trait. Most academy kids don't make it - it's just the numbers. jpg75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, BCM1555362349 said: That's the name ... and that's my point. So, so many high level academy kids fizzle -- this is not just a Canadian trait. Most academy kids don't make it - it's just the numbers. I agree with your point, but it's also worth noting that PSG's academy was a dumpster fire until like 4 years ago. Edited July 23, 2017 by harrycoyster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Diego Gutierrez is playing at a big enough level to be top 5 for u20s. Playing in copa sudamericana and chile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 2017-07-22 at 10:18 AM, harrycoyster said: I labelled it U20s eligible for Canada, if we are talking players that are 100% committed to the program: 1) Davies 2) Millar 3) Hundal 4) Zanatta 5) Chung Nice to see Chung there, and I think he's got the skills and attitude to develop into a terrific player. He's not yet 18 too. I'd stick Petrasso in there, no? And a guy like Gloire Amanda has huge potential, and is only 18. I like players who work their assess off! As we know, lots of kids have talent and promise, but the kids who have soccer brains, stay humble, and work their asses off are the ones that have the best shot at becoming real pros. Also, Chapman has most of the tools for becoming a terrific midfielder. He needs to play faster and learn the game, but it sure does not hurt training with guys like Bradley and Vazquez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Beaver said: I'd stick Petrasso in there, no? And a guy like Gloire Amanda has huge potential, and is only 18. Also, Chapman has most of the tools for becoming a terrific midfielder. He needs to play faster and learn the game, but it sure does not hurt training with guys like Bradley and Vazquez. Petrasso/Chapman are over 20 and Amanda was recently demoted from a 4 star to 3 star prospect by TopDrawerSoccer. He's pretty lacking in the technical aspects of his game, but hell can he run for 90 minutes. I'm just not sure if he has the touch and finishing to be an MLS forward. I'm pretty confident Hundal and Chung will be at the very least MLS role players. Edited July 23, 2017 by harrycoyster Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Are there any prospects on the Academy team prostars Fc ? Just wondering because they got killed in the CEE Cup in czech republic this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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