Shway Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Considering the Gold cup is nearly a year a way, I wanted to hear from my fellow voyageurs in regards to the importance of performing great/winning the 2015 Gold Cup. Reason why I ask is because it will have two affects on two separate tournaments.: Copa América Centario - this is massive, and the first time this being done. CONMEBOL 10 teams + CONCACAF 4(6)teams (US & Mexico automatically qualified) 2018 FIFA World Cup Qualifying Third round, second round, first round I would hope by this time, playing in the second round wouldn't be important for the games aspect. But what are your thoughts on this upcoming year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I'm one of those that will take the Gold Cup as important on it's own, even without the other things you are talking about. However, the other things are certainly important as well, especially considering that the draw for the 2018 World Cup will take place AFTER the Gold Cup. Which would mean that moving up in the rankings, and not having to, say, have Jamaica or something in the first round, where only one team can go through. If the qualifying process is the same, I'd prefer real minnows early, to help build up to the next round and harder teams. Heaven knows we could use some confidence builders right now, and I'm not referring to Mauritania (sigh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 If our goal is to make the Hex, I would love to face competition in the second round. I'm in the Hex or bust. We saw how they responded after playing minnows last time around. I'm going to use that sentence that I've read too many times on this board. If we can't finish above (insert team that could be in Canada's group), how could we make the Hex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I'm one of those that will take the Gold Cup as important on it's own, even without the other things you are talking about. However, the other things are certainly important as well, especially considering that the draw for the 2018 World Cup will take place AFTER the Gold Cup. Which would mean that moving up in the rankings, and not having to, say, have Jamaica or something in the first round, where only one team can go through. If the qualifying process is the same, I'd prefer real minnows early, to help build up to the next round and harder teams. Heaven knows we could use some confidence builders right now, and I'm not referring to Mauritania (sigh) I agree but we need to actually win the games to gain confidence. I'm curious as to who might actually start scoring for us. Unfortunately 'no one' is the most likely answer, but at least lately a few of the young up-and-comers seem to be doing alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'm always puzzled by the way many on here approach the Gold Cup. It's our confederation championship and the only way our national team will ever lift a trophy. In the past four years the Canadian Men's National Team has played eighteen competitive games. 18 games in four years! To throw aside six of those as a sideshow is ridiculous to me. Every other country in CONCACAF cares about it, just look at the TV numbers the Gold Cup gets in Central America. For people that say countries like Mexico don't care about this tournament... well they clearly cared enough to fire Chepo over it. For a team as shitty as Canada we need to care about this tournament. As a supporter of the men's national team I want to see our team do two things in this order: qualify for a World Cup, win a Gold Cup. I don't need any bonuses to care about this tournament, it is Canada playing competitive football. And in a tournament we have a chance to win (a distant one albeit, but still a chance). What more reasons do we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So you're telling me there's a chance ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I'm always puzzled by the way many on here approach the Gold Cup. It's our confederation championship and the only way our national team will ever lift a trophy. In the past four years the Canadian Men's National Team has played eighteen competitive games. 18 games in four years! To throw aside six of those as a sideshow is ridiculous to me. Every other country in CONCACAF cares about it, just look at the TV numbers the Gold Cup gets in Central America. For people that say countries like Mexico don't care about this tournament... well they clearly cared enough to fire Chepo over it. For a team as shitty as Canada we need to care about this tournament. As a supporter of the men's national team I want to see our team do two things in this order: qualify for a World Cup, win a Gold Cup. I don't need any bonuses to care about this tournament, it is Canada playing competitive football. And in a tournament we have a chance to win (a distant one albeit, but still a chance). What more reasons do we need? 100% agree with all of this. I was already suprised by the way we didn't seem to care about the last GC, even after it was announced that there was no such thing as an "off cycle" GC anymore. For the 2013 GC, at least one could claim that there were no competitive matches coming any time soon ... but even then, I was upset that so many players weren't there for a variety of reasons. If we can't get up for the 2015 GC, then something is seriously wrong. I want to win the whole damn tournament and shove it in the Yanks/Mexico's faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So you're telling me there's a chance ... The Gold Cup is something we have won before, and at the time we were not expected to win. It seems to me the same scenario is setting itself up perfectly. http://youtu.be/KX5jNnDMfxA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The Gold Cup is something we have won before, and at the time we were not expected to win. It seems to me the same scenario is setting itself up perfectly. http://youtu.be/KX5jNnDMfxA I don't know now. CONCACAF referees didn't want us in the 07 Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 So you're telling me there's a chance ... The only thing worse than the absence of hope is a glimmer of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 The only thing worse than the absence of hope is a glimmer of hope. Asymptotically approaching zero hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Mexico don't care about this tournament... well they clearly cared enough to fire Chepo over it. To be fair, they lost twice to Panama during the Gold Cup and Chepo didn't lose his job. He was fired after they lost to Honduras at Azteca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I agree but we need to actually win the games to gain confidence. I'm curious as to who might actually start scoring for us. Unfortunately 'no one' is the most likely answer, but at least lately a few of the young up-and-comers seem to be doing alright. Yeah man that's definitely important too. If you are referring to Petrasso, I'd sure like to see him get into that fold by then. Hopefully he's playing football on at least Championship level, if not higher. I also hope he doesn't end up on some bench too lol And Sam, I agree with you...the first thing I said was I'm one of the ones that think the Gold Cup is important on it's own, I truly feel that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Anything that gets me back with me mates in the stands and 'avin Real Football Factories Voyageurs Edition moments is all I need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 All I want is Canada to get better and make to that next level in World Cup qualifying I can not see having a good Gold Cup making any diiference because it really hasn't in the past to be honest. I hoping that our Players can develop in good time . I am liking the progress of Bekker Osario and of Henry at TFC and I am glad that Tiebert is getting minutes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I'd like the younger players to dominate the squad. Our old guys won't be around for wcq anyway. We've got some decent young players who actually have some skill rather than the last 20 years of kick and run, "hard working" players. Give me: F- Cavallini, REB, Jackson, Caleb Clarke M- Johnson, Osorio, Bekker, Teibert, Petrasso, Cyle Larin, Simpson(is he recovered and playing these days?) D- Atiba, Tissot, Henry, Nana, Edgar, Ouimette, Adekugbe GK- Kenny, Lars and a young 3rd gk I like that sort of team a hell of a lot more than what we've been throwing out the the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 All of Floro's building and giving young guys a shot has been nice and all, but I think he needs to start focusing on winning because the the 2015 Gold Cup will probably be the most important game(s) for Canada since 1985 for the reasons mentioned above. He's given the the kids some looks, time to start integrating the young players in a winning formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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