dyslexic nam Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, Obinna said: Cavallini looks incredibly short on confidence. Playing for Vancouver will do that to you. If anyone needs to score a few goals against Cayman to get back on track, it is this guy. I still believe in him, he just needs to break the funk. I am pretty sure this exact sentiment has been expressed with respect to Larin as well. toontownman, Ruffian and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 The Cavallini to Vancouver signing was always poor. At $6 million, he wasn't what the Whitecaps needed and (from a career perspective) they're not a team that can help him. I never begrudge a player taking the money (because careers are short), and Vancouver is a great city, but damn I wonder if both sides could undo this I wonder if they would. Obinna, The Real Marc, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I don't know that he wasn't what the player caps need. Probably the right player at the wrong time though. Had they signed better players around him to supply him I think he would be a perfect fit. He was the first signing at christmas. The club let him down after that. Who knows what vision they sold him. Northvansteve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) I feel bad for him. It seems like they sold him a lemon. My God Vancouver is horrible! They scary part is that their defence and goalkeeping is pretty good. They really really need some midfielders and some wingers. What’s BS is they have a ton a money ! Edited August 26, 2020 by SpecialK Northvansteve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, toontownman said: I don't know that he wasn't what the player caps need. Probably the right player at the wrong time though. Had they signed better players around him to supply him I think he would be a perfect fit. He was the first signing at christmas. The club let him down after that. Who knows what vision they sold him. They were never going to get better players. Cheapest and worst ran franchise in MLS by far, seriously, how does anyone take that team seriously? Terrible terrible team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Floortom said: Midfield is an abomination - Tiebert is ummm not good. Metcalfe is worse. still all that said, Cavallini has been disappointing. He has to make something happen and he hasn’t been able to. His hold up play has been awful. He holds some blame for this disaster too Cavallini is not the type of 9 to seek the game and make plays, he never was that player, and never will be that player. He joined a terrible team, period. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, toontownman said: I don't know that he wasn't what the player caps need. Probably the right player at the wrong time though. Had they signed better players around him to supply him I think he would be a perfect fit. He was the first signing at christmas. The club let him down after that. Who knows what vision they sold him. Sure, but I think they signed him thinking that was all they needed. That he alone would make the players better around him, and that he would be able to generate chances for himself and others. But that's not what he is, he needed help, and they were never going to get that for him. He was there one big signing, and unlike some of the other attempted DPs there's never going to be a chance to sell him on for profit because he's already (roughly) at his peak. It remains an absolutely baffling decision by the Whitecaps, beyond "Everyone is yelling at us to spend some money and to sign more Canadian players. Let's just do that all at once and then people will stop yelling at us." They've now wasted a big chunk of the Davies money, and have nothing to show for it. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Watchmen said: Sure, but I think they signed him thinking that was all they needed. That he alone would make the players better around him, and that he would be able to generate chances for himself and others. But that's not what he is, he needed help, and they were never going to get that for him. He was there one big signing, and unlike some of the other attempted DPs there's never going to be a chance to sell him on for profit because he's already (roughly) at his peak. It remains an absolutely baffling decision by the Whitecaps, beyond "Everyone is yelling at us to spend some money and to sign more Canadian players. Let's just do that all at once and then people will stop yelling at us." They've now wasted a big chunk of the Davies money, and have nothing to show for it. They should still have some money to go out and get a solid one or two midfielders. Hey if they want to go Canadian, there are some good young midfielders out there! Also if the want older well they can take a look at the Scottish league, there four solid ones. Also they can make some trades. The whitecaps have options to get help Cavallini, he’s a really good striker but playing on that team he’s not a miracle worker ! I wonder if they will Edited August 26, 2020 by SpecialK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 IMO there isn't much incentive to get better this year. With no fans, spending a ton of money for a few wins won't give them much of a return on their investment. Their mailing it in until they can play in front of fans. An Observer and Cheeta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, johnyb said: IMO there isn't much incentive to get better this year. With no fans, spending a ton of money for a few wins won't give them much of a return on their investment. Their mailing it in until they can play in front of fans. Loser franchise mentality then... but I guess that could be an "excuse" (not really) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 hours ago, Watchmen said: Sure, but I think they signed him thinking that was all they needed. That he alone would make the players better around him, and that he would be able to generate chances for himself and others. But that's not what he is, he needed help, and they were never going to get that for him. He was there one big signing, and unlike some of the other attempted DPs there's never going to be a chance to sell him on for profit because he's already (roughly) at his peak. It remains an absolutely baffling decision by the Whitecaps, beyond "Everyone is yelling at us to spend some money and to sign more Canadian players. Let's just do that all at once and then people will stop yelling at us." They've now wasted a big chunk of the Davies money, and have nothing to show for it. Yeah, two sides of the same coin maybe. They had far too much faith as they have always had in Reyna who beyond season one flatters to deceive and is a disappointment, to be the creative link. That Dajome and David Milinković would be great creators of chances for Cavallini to put away and HIB, who tried to get out of his move and go elsewhere since prior to day one, would be the player they thought. If all of that was true he would be excelling right now. It was all misplaced judgement. I don't think they would have thought of him as a creator, but the above tells me who knows what they were thinking. They want Bekker apparently. Who knows what goes on in their heads. He is battering ram or "tank" as his nickname, that works hard and gets in scoring opportunities more than a creator. Hold up play sure but you have to be able to get the ball up to him. We saw that in his first few appearances where he was buzzing all around the pitch and looked like himself. Not since the restart and with a disgusting team around him though. He seems as drained as the rest of them. I don't doubt he is having second thoughts about the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, LeoH037 said: Loser franchise mentality then... but I guess that could be an "excuse" (not really) It is a good chance to blood the kids. The year is done. No point bringing anyone in. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 12/9/2019 at 12:27 PM, Shway said: Not sold, or convinced that this is a good move for Lucas or CMNT. The Whitecaps for far too long are okay with being mediocre, and require some big investments to get elite (MLS) standard players for them to make a playoff run next season. But congrats to beastboy on getting paid.... I hope he kills it for the sake of Canada. Sometimes you gotta go back and read what you've said in the past in the hopes of being wrong. In this case....I'm sad that I was right. Hopefully for now. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Cavallini did not become a bad hold up player overnight. There is holding up the ball and there is holding up the ball and dishing it off to an open player. The latter is probably where the problem is. I am incredibly frustrated for him. Bikerack, Shway, Trois Reds and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Gotta score his penalties. Bad miss and momentum changer after a bright start for the team in the second half. If that goes in, Montreal's confidence might have wavered. He owns that, but he can't help that he has no quality around him eith the supporting cast. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 The move never made sense Bikerack, Obinna and Stouffvillain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I'm getting whiplash...great signing to shitty signing in the blink of an eye. Cavs stock goes straight up, he's an excellent hold up guy and now he's in the toilet. Makes sense for the Whitecaps go out drum up interest by signing a in form, a cdn guy that can put it in the net. Which CDN team doesnt want that...it hasnt worked out so far but holy cow lets not panic. If he had gone to the bubble and kept playing maybe he/the caps wouldnt be flundering now eh?? Isnt some of this on him?? If he had done his job and banged in his penalties everyone wouldnt be panicked right now. And shouldnt it get better if MDS can get them all rowing in the same direction?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 He's only played 3 games so far, and to be fair MDS was not even able to prepare the team as a block in the MLS is Back tournament. So it's like starting all over again. That said, this team has serious problems in all respects, but nothing will be done until next season. The Real Marc and BearcatSA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Aside from a deceiving header, he’s been non-existent. He’s lacking movement, and some decision making has been awful. Here’s hoping he has a better half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Always though him going to Vancouver was a mistake... sadly its proving to be true. That team has a way of killing a player's soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad_Impact Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Eesh, don't like see that from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Cavallini looking like a total clown. El Hombre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Horrible. Two stupid yellows. There’s one thing to blame how shite the Whitecaps are, but Lucas hasn’t been a bright spot or even looked like he’s put in work. It’s disappointing, and this pace does he get called up? LeoH037 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Yeah, that is just dumb. Makes me really, really hope Cyle Larin keeps getting more minutes and improving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colliedor Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Binks got in his head early in the game and Lucas couldn't focus for the rest of the game. Poor composure. Nate3322 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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