Lucas Cavallini

[VinceA]

7 hours ago, DeRo_Is_King said:

Had a quality assist on Tijuana's second goal vs Santos Laguna yesterday:

 

This is why I never really wrote off Cavallini when he was in Vancouver. The Whitecaps just feel like a talent wasteland.

Edited March 13 by VinceA

[Watchmen]

4 hours ago, VinceA said:

This is why I never really wrote off Cavallini when he was in Vancouver. The Whitecaps just feel like a talent wasteland.

He has 1 goal in 317 min, which means he's actually behind his scoring pace with the Whitecaps last year (avg 1 goal every 168 min).

[costarg]

2 hours ago, Watchmen said:

He has 1 goal in 317 min, which means he's actually behind his scoring pace with the Whitecaps last year (avg 1 goal every 168 min).

From a different angle....

 

Tijuana: 1g 2a in 317min = 1 in 105min

VWC: 9g 1a in 1517min = 1 in 153min

[The Beaver 2.0]

1 minute ago, costarg said:

From a different angle....

 

Tijuana: 1g 2a in 317min = 1 in 105min

VWC: 9g 1a in 1517min = 1 in 153min

Sure, but the lad was signed to score goals. But let's see if he can continue to produce in Mexico. I hope he does.

[DeRo_Is_King]

6 hours ago, The Beaver 2.0 said:

Sure, but the lad was signed to score goals. But let's see if he can continue to produce in Mexico. I hope he does.

I think the good news is his very recent form. He scored against Atlas and produced an assist in the last game.

Keep in mind that his first game with Tijuana wasn't that long ago (mid-February) and he was being used primarily as a sub early on.

Every player needs time to adapt with a new club. Like you, I'm hopeful Cav has turned a corner. It seems like a good fit. 

Edited March 14 by DeRo_Is_King

[VinceA]

Uhhh He's starting tonight even though Herdman said he's hurt so someone is lying.

[dyslexic nam]

Maybe it is hurt feelings.   

[trc2014]

Was concerned this was going to happen when I saw him out of the call-up.  Wonder if he is checked out post-WC.

[Obinna]

Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Perhaps Cavallini is playing through a knock, something that's not bad enough to keep him from playing with Xolos, but bad enough for him to turn the call down. 

Even if that's the case, which it may not be, I don't like how this went down. Really sounds like there was a breakdown in communication. 

One things for sure though, Cavallini is playing for his career and reputation right now, which I think took a big hit in the aftermath of his Whitecaps spell. Rightly or wrongly, the prevailing narrative is that he's a "failed" DP, or at least wasn't worth the money, which is never a good thing. His Mexican contract is only for the remainder of the season as well. He absolutely needs to make an impact here in this short spell, otherwise it's probably back to Uruguay for him, or some other lower level league.

At least this is how I feel about his situation. Perhaps he just didn't want to leave with his club future in a precarious state? Again though, why wouldn't Herdman just say that he was omitted to focus on club football? Cannot shake the feeling something isn't right here. 

[Bison44]

1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said:

Maybe it is hurt feelings.   

Hurt feelings, skipping camps...something not right here.....where have we heard this before.  Get ready for the knives to come out.  Cant pick and choose which calls to accept..or you get labelled as a trouble maker in the dressing room, or at least some guys do.  

[SoCalTransport]

1 hour ago, VinceA said:

Uhhh He's starting tonight even though Herdman said he's hurt so someone is lying.

Why make the trip if you're just going to warm the bench.

[trc2014]

17 minutes ago, SoCalTransport said:

Why make the trip if you're just going to warm the bench.

That wouldn’t be the case.  He would have been the first forward off the bench in both games.

[VinceA]

And he's scored

[scullion44]

The majority of people have been complaining about him for the better part of a couple years but a couple goals in Mexico and all of a sudden everyones upset he doesn’t get a call up lmao

[Obinna]

2 hours ago, scullion44 said:

The majority of people have been complaining about him for the better part of a couple years but a couple goals in Mexico and all of a sudden everyones upset he doesn’t get a call up lmao

It's a good point. He's got 1 goal and 2 assists in 6 Liga MX games, but if he did that in MLS he would be getting criticized. Some may disagree, but the level of MLS is close enough to Liga MX that we should view them on par for these intents and purposes, but we don't.

Playing down in Mexico remains sexier than playing in MLS, and with that comes a different view of Cavallini, I suppose.

[DeRo_Is_King]

2 hours ago, Obinna said:

It's a good point. He's got 1 goal and 2 assists in 6 Liga MX games, but if he did that in MLS he would be getting criticized. Some may disagree, but the level of MLS is close enough to Liga MX that we should view them on par for these intents and purposes, but we don't.

Playing down in Mexico remains sexier than playing in MLS, and with that comes a different view of Cavallini, I suppose.

I agree in that he hasn't played for Tijuana very long, but he wasn't seeing big minutes at the start and clearly has picked up momentum.

I thought the guy was done, honestly, especially after that controversial incident for Vancouver. He is playing really well in Mexico now and should be on the radar. Check out this highlights package from yesterday. 

Tijuana's second goal was scored off a rebound after Cavallini took the initial shot. Cavallini himself then nabbed the equalizer in the 77th. He's all over the place in these highlights:

Edited Saturday at 12:12 PM by DeRo_Is_King

[CanadaFan123]

Maybe leaving him out for now is the smart move. Herdman may have been told by Larin/David that they won’t be available for the Gold Cup so he’s going to ride them now and Cava will have a chance in the summer. With their current form it’s not likely that the other strikers in the squad will see many minutes this month. 

[DeRo_Is_King]

3 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Maybe leaving him out for now is the smart move. Herdman may have been told by Larin/David that they won’t be available for the Gold Cup so he’s going to ride them now and Cava will have a chance in the summer. With their current form it’s not likely that the other strikers in the squad will see many minutes this month. 

This makes a lot of sense, actually. 

Edited Saturday at 12:10 PM by DeRo_Is_King

[Obinna]

Sounds familiar

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/taylor-twellman-not-happy-malik-tillman-rangers-absent-usmnt-squad/blt06dbe451c20b6bde

[VinceA]

3 hours ago, CanadaFan123 said:

Maybe leaving him out for now is the smart move. Herdman may have been told by Larin/David that they won’t be available for the Gold Cup so he’s going to ride them now and Cava will have a chance in the summer. With their current form it’s not likely that the other strikers in the squad will see many minutes this month. 

This is the Gold Cup year that teams send their best if Larin/David or others are sitting out I'm going to be very annoyed.

[BearcatSA]

9 minutes ago, VinceA said:

This is the Gold Cup year that teams send their best if Larin/David or others are sitting out I'm going to be very annoyed.

It is coming in a year where a World Cup was played in November/December and we've had some very key guys who have played a ton of important football (club and country) in a two year stretch.  That might be a consideration, as well, don't know.

[kacbru]

9 hours ago, Obinna said:

It's a good point. He's got 1 goal and 2 assists in 6 Liga MX games, but if he did that in MLS he would be getting criticized. Some may disagree, but the level of MLS is close enough to Liga MX that we should view them on par for these intents and purposes, but we don't.

Playing down in Mexico remains sexier than playing in MLS, and with that comes a different view of Cavallini, I suppose.

2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games (4 starts). 

[DeRo_Is_King]

1 minute ago, kacbru said:

2 goals and 2 assists in 7 games (4 starts). 

Yes. And he probably could have been credited with an assist on the second goal yesterday. I think he's posting pretty good numbers. 

[Dominic94]

On 3/13/2023 at 2:44 PM, VinceA said:

This is why I never really wrote off Cavallini when he was in Vancouver. The Whitecaps just feel like a talent wasteland.

I just don’t think he ever fit there for them and they didn’t fit him. He should have went to KC.