sincforpm Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 The post game interview by Wilkinson addressed this(physical play) and I agree with her:Choosing my words wisely, Brazil is a phenomenal team firstly, always a real challenge with some of the best players of the world and when they are interviewed, they are going to say we were physical we were dirty and I think if you have the benefit of replay or any sort of zoom, you will see that a lot of times they were supermanding out there, 10 for 10 for their dive, they did very well, got us a red card. She also said she was disappointed that in some previous games that they did not play with heart and passion which is what this team is all about. When asked about her some well timed sliding tackles in the game, she said"Look, the Brazilians feet move really fast so usually those tackles is because I am a step behind them I need to make those tackles to recover a bit of dignity or I probably be megged by the Brazilian" I do appreciate her candidness. Herdman said in the post game interview that in 18 months they will be a great team. I only partly agree with this statement. Future looks bright with Buchanan, Yekka and Fleming. They desperately need some quality strikers to play along Sinclair. Other than Sinc, no one seems to be able to provide some quality finish we so lack. Maybe Belanger and Tancredi are the answers. The poor quality of the crosses are appalling as well. Hope to see some of these kinks worked out by January 31st. In case anyone is interested, here is the link to the Brazil game: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Other than Sinc, no one seems to be able to provide some quality finish we so lack. We've played 9 games in the last half-year, four against higher ranked and five against lower ranked. We've been scoreless six times and scored in three. Two from Sinclair, two Leon, and one from Kyle and Baxter. Sinclair has played 90 minutes every game, Leon is averaging under a half a game. Kaylyn Kyle is the only player to score against a higher ranked team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 We've played 9 games in the last half-year, four against higher ranked and five against lower ranked. We've been scoreless six times and scored in three. Two from Sinclair, two Leon, and one from Kyle and Baxter. Sinclair has played 90 minutes every game, Leon is averaging under a half a game. Kaylyn Kyle is the only player to score against a higher ranked team. Maybe Herdman should take some lessons from Ronnie Radonich whose team scored easy 4 against Scotland a higher ranked team than Chile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sincforpm Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 We've played 9 games in the last half-year, four against higher ranked and five against lower ranked. We've been scoreless six times and scored in three. Two from Sinclair, two Leon, and one from Kyle and Baxter. Sinclair has played 90 minutes every game, Leon is averaging under a half a game. Kaylyn Kyle is the only player to score against a higher ranked team. Based on these 9 games, there is no doubt Sinclair has not fared any better than Leon, Kyle and Baxer. My point is I do not see all of them as top notched strikers. Baxter lacks pace and cannot provide service to Sinc or vice versa. There were times Sinclair had made the pass to open spaces intended for her but she just couldn't get there. Kaylyn's goal against France was a beauty but am not sure she will repeat that feat again. Leon is young and energetic but she has a shoot first mentality and lacks pace as well. She has tremendous potential but she is probably a few years away from being elite. None of these players will complement Sinclair like Tancredi does. That being said, I do acknowledge that Sinclair has clearly lost a step this year. It is my hope that Herdman will call Nkem Eriruke, Oduro etc. for the next friendly. The time to inject them into the team is now. The sooner they learn the system they better. Just my two cents. (sorry to sound so incoherent as I have had a long day at work). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 This is an interesting discussion. To Vic, I think the Brazilians at times were making a meal of the fouls and dives, as if they wanted to cool down Canada's heart and passion. The referee in my view was allowing too much rough pushing, tripping, elbows and what not. He did issue a number of yellow cards but was too little to late. The tone was already set. For the record Marta complained that the Chileans were too violent when they played on their first game. The streaming video is so poor that it is very hard to see much of contacts. Where is Tancredi in all this? we all here want her back. Sometimes I don't understand Herdman. For instance why his insistence with Baxter who used to be great as a U20, but not now. All this resurrecting old players does not seem to be the way to go. Wilkinson admits she is too slow and we know she is not going to get faster. Is Herdman just giving a last hoorah to some players before he embarks on the real team? I believe that the team progressed so much at the Olympics that any new comers will have a hard time reaching that level in just 18 months. So a big question, do we go with the old or do we go with the new. We need to test every possible potential players out there and right now, very soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 We've played 9 games in the last half-year, four against higher ranked and five against lower ranked. We've been scoreless six times and scored in three. Two from Sinclair, two Leon, and one from Kyle and Baxter. Sinclair has played 90 minutes every game, Leon is averaging under a half a game. Kaylyn Kyle is the only player to score against a higher ranked team. Untill the powers that be allow Herdman to start benching Sinclair we are in for a very big awakening in 2015, we will not make the Quarter finals with the product we appear to have now. Just to be clear Kara Lang is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 You guys know Sinclair was still our leading scorer in 2013? She might not be what she once was (although it's hard to imagine anyone falling from "one of the three best players alive" in 2012 to "not good enough to star for a mid-range national team" in 2013!), but there's still absolutely no conceivable call to bench her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Forgive me if I'm missing someone or have someone out of position but it looks like we've used over 20 midfield-up-the-park players this year (which is pretty amazing). I've left out Desiree Scott because she plays so deep, some of these could be in that case too. We have two players who've scored more than once and four different strikers all around the 0.3 goals per game ratio (Sinclair, Leon with considerable minutes, Filigno and Baxter with about a third of theirs). Sinclair's lifetime strike rate is 0.75, similar to Wambach. Marta is 1.1, Prinz, Hamm and Morgan are 0.6, Schelin and Sawa about 0.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sincforpm Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Originally posted by The Ref:For instance why his insistence with Baxter who used to be great as a U20, but not now. All this resurrecting old players does not seem to be the way to go. So a big question, do we go with the old or do we go with the new. We need to test every possible potential players out there and right now, very soon! As far as I can recall, Sinclair(or Herdman) said in one of the interviews that a few of the veterans said they were ready to retire after the Olympics games. The bronze medal made them changed their minds. That was the negative impact(to me at least) that the Olympic results had on the team going forward. Herdman is still reluctant to go all out and replace Baxter, Moscato with the up and coming youngsters like Fletcher etc. Buchanan and Yekka had been getting better every game so it is time to get some young attackers to complement Sinc. In the game vs Brazil, there were times she looked like she was alone on the island as they just couldn't get the pass to her. Though Sinclair has lost a step in 2013, she is irreplaceable as she is still one of the top strikers in the world. Benching her is not an option, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Great stats Vic and I applaud all the time you must have put into that table. If we are talking of Sinclair on the bench with no one to come close, equal or surpass her we are in deep doodoo. I would like to see our midfielders giving way more service to Sinclair thus benefiting from her scoring ability. It seems that all our thrusts forward get diluted amongst a bunch of midfielders (even some defenders) with no good results. If you look at Brazil, Marta gets all kinds of service and her stats speak for themselves. We are playing a puzzling strategy. Earning a tie against Brazil is somewhat commendable, but that kind of results in world cup competition will get us nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Actually thanks to the CSA and Wikipedia and copy/paste and Excel it took about five minutes. A year and a half is really far away in terms of people's presence and results on a field and it looks like Herdman is keeping a lot of pots on the stove to see which ones boil over. Any of those 20 could have a ton of game in 2015. It doesn't matter if they're our superstars, old players, young players, known, unknown, French, English or Inuit. The lineup for the opening game doesn't have a single name on it yet. Like the Nike tagline say's, Write the Future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 You guys know Sinclair was still our leading scorer in 2013? She might not be what she once was (although it's hard to imagine anyone falling from "one of the three best players alive" in 2012 to "not good enough to star for a mid-range national team" in 2013!), but there's still absolutely no conceivable call to bench her. Sinclair in Germany got hurt and then hurt the team when she was not pulled. With the route one game being played when she is in the game... and she is in the game most games the team never learns to play with out her ...that is dangerous because you simply cannot tie your team performance to one player year and after year and not get burned, we did in Germany get burned but not in London. Sinclair needs bench time to let others step up if its not done it shows that Herdman is not in charge of who gets on the pitch in exhibition games from now till WWC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Final game today. Looking for a live stream from Brazil, anyone? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Sure, it's good quality here: http://bandsports.band.uol.com.br/aovivo.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Thank you Vic. Great quality almost HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yes it was great, and good close-up, replay, and camera angles too. Fantastic job and well done by the Brazilian Federation. Wondering how that would have gone if Julie Fleeting didn't have her second child and was on the field. She's 1.0 goals per game internationally and when you play for Scotland that's pretty remarkable. There are lots of plucky teams like Scotland. The difference between them and the top 10 is impact players. Players who make a difference. They don't just wait for something to happen or someone to give them something, they create it out of thin air and take it. We can put 100 players on the field who can do "ok". We need ten who can step up above the level of play on the field today. The two I've been impressed with are Buchanan and Leon. Buchanan's pace, lateral movement and quick first steps solve a problem we've always had in the back. She's a remarkable find and the thought of her continually improving is mindbending. When Leon receives the ball she usually attacks quickly with it and knows how to create danger, but what most people don't see is she has a really high work rate off the ball. And the warrior spirit is icing on the cake. I can see why Herdman has picked up on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandOne Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I agree that it'd be good to see Sinclair sit out more games so that others step up but there are two problems with that. a] players fall back into their old habits of Sinc-watching when she steps back on the pitch. b] YOU TRY benching Sinc. she's a competitor. I think Herdman has chosen a decent compromise of having Sinc be invisible in the game, as she was in Portland for much of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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