25% NASL quota for Canadian franchises

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It has recently come to my attention that if Canadian franchises who want to join the NASL only 25% must be from outside US (per USSF sanctioning). So for every new Canadian team 3 US teams would need to be added. With this being the case, this quota makes it really hard for Winnipeg, Calgary and Hamilton to join the league. I was wondering if the CSA is presently negotiating with the NASL changes to this rule. Has anyone here contacted the CSA about this rule? Furthermore, if this rule was instituted since the start of the new NASL, why didn't the Anthony Totera show reveal this when they had Joe Patrone on the show discussing Canadian expansion in the NASL. In fact, Patrone said clearly on the show that Calgary is expected to join the league by 2014, Winnipeg by 2015 and Hamilton by 2016. I'm really confused here.

This is not all...Going back over a month ago, CSA President Victor Montagliani was quoted in a Hamilton newspaper alleging that the CSA is working on a plan to convince CFL clubs to invest in the NASL. This is what he said on the record, and it was crystal clear to me. Nevertheless, Montagliani not once mentioned the 25% NASL rule. Unless, is it possible that the CSA, behind the scenes, is already negotiating with the NASL and the USSF a Canadian division within the NASL?

I really want to email the CSA about this issue, but I don't know how to put it in proper words. Help will be welcoming if you want to.

[Soccerpro]

It has recently come to my attention that if Canadian franchises who want to join the NASL only 25% must be from outside US (per USSF sanctioning). So for every new Canadian team 3 US teams would need to be added. With this being the case, this quota makes it really hard for Winnipeg, Calgary and Hamilton to join the league. I was wondering if the CSA is presently negotiating with the NASL changes to this rule. Has anyone here contacted the CSA about this rule? Furthermore, if this rule was instituted since the start of the new NASL, why didn't the Anthony Totera show reveal this when they had Joe Patrone on the show discussing Canadian expansion in the NASL. In fact, Patrone said clearly on the show that Calgary is expected to join the league by 2014, Winnipeg by 2015 and Hamilton by 2016. I'm really confused here.

This is not all...Going back over a month ago, CSA President Victor Montagliani was quoted in a Hamilton newspaper alleging that the CSA is working on a plan to convince CFL clubs to invest in the NASL. This is what he said on the record, and it was crystal clear to me. Nevertheless, Montagliani not once mentioned the 25% NASL rule. Unless, is it possible that the CSA, behind the scenes, is already negotiating with the NASL and the USSF a Canadian division within the NASL?

I really want to email the CSA about this issue, but I don't know how to put it in proper words. Help will be welcoming if you want to.

When exactly are Calgary, Winnipeg and Hamilton going to join NASL? The closest out of all 3 are just the rumours of Bob Young over the last several years. NASL is getting a lot of interest from U.S cities now. I think it's a non issue for the foreseeable future.

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When exactly are Calgary, Winnipeg and Hamilton going to join NASL? The closest out of all 3 are just the rumours of Bob Young over the last several years. NASL is getting a lot of interest from U.S cities now. I think it's a non issue for the foreseeable future.

It was actually Joe Patrone, an interview in the Anthony Totera show 2 weeks ago, where he alleges that Calgary is expected to join the NASL by 2014, Winnipeg in 2015, and Hamilton by 2016.

[Grizzly]

It was actually Joe Patrone, an interview in the Anthony Totera show 2 weeks ago, where he alleges that Calgary is expected to join the NASL by 2014, Winnipeg in 2015, and Hamilton by 2016.

That would be great if it happens. If there are not enough American teams to make up the balance I am sure they will find a solution, possibly a Canadian division sanctioned by the CSA or the USSF will change the sanctioning requirements. The NASL needs stable well funded franchises wherever they are and it is also in the best interests of the USSF to have a stable D2 league with a large number of teams.

I think the Ottawa franchise is really crucial for both Canadian soccer and the NASL. If Ottawa can attract decent size regular attendance in what will be a nice looking stadium (hopefully devoid of football lines) a lot of other CFL teams may jump on board and potential fans in other cities especially Edmonton will start looking at the league as more professional and less minor league. Whatever one can say about TFC in recent years, their initial success at packing the stadium and having enthusiastic fans did a lot in helping MLS and its perception in other cities. If Ottawa can have a similar success even on a smaller scale it could do a lot for NASL especially if the Cosmos are also able to have some success. And at least on the sporting front the Fury are in a lot better hands with Dos Santos than TFC was with Mo.

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Ottawa will Join Next year (2014)

By then the league will consist of 2 Canadian teams (Edmonton and Ottawa).

and the 10 US teams Indicated on the NASL website.

If we go use an easy reckoning as been 1 in 4, 2 in 8, 3 in 12 and 4 in 16.

Ergo, of the next 4 teams introduced into the league, to elevate the number to 16 two could be easily be Canadian Under the 25:75 rule.

I would note at this point though 16 teams may be the limit for now if the NASL's intention is to play a national (non conference) 30 game schedule. I also don't think the split season would work (but I personally don't think its a long term solution, but rather a way to get the cosmos into play before 2014).

Grizz,

Re the Edmonton Ground situation and the big picture of Making Div2 in Canada look more profesional. Clarke is scheduled by the city for turf replacement next year. With the new "Big Blue added this spring, Clarke is steadily developing a "Personality" as a (rather folksy) soccer stadium. We ESG-ers would presume that Football will still be considered as a prerequisite user of the stadium as it is the main High School finals facility in the city. However, Fath's personal funding of the current ground improvements may go along way to ensuring the new field, If installed, is not do so with Permanent lines.

Apparently Fath and the Eddies have also plowed over 50K (100K?) into community soccer in the city this year. Added to this the presence of Team members at the Free Footy events organised by a CBC staffer, then one kinda gets the "Simpson Clouds" feeling about the club at present with regards how it is been view in the city. To this end, gates are steadily improving and the days of "Soccer never sticks in YEG" may be retiring into the shadows.

A positive Ottawan endeavor will only help to embolden that view.

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Wow!!!!! According to this latest article, it appears that the 3:1 USSF/NASL policy on Canadian franchises joining the NASL is NOT having any affect whatsoever in the process of expansion. It appears that it's all systems go irregardless of the 3:1 quota. In fact, it appears to me that NASL commissioner Bill Peterson is totally ignoring the rules. It looks like Winnipeg and Calgary are expected to join within a year or two.

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Petrone seems to say a lot, and saying Calgary was tabbed for a 2014 franchise before the floods happened seems to be a blowhard move, especially when the commissioner hasn't even visited Calgary.

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It has recently come to my attention that if Canadian franchises who want to join the NASL only 25% must be from outside US ...

Where have you been?

OK but seriously, this has been around since day one of the new NASL and is, as Captain Barbossa would say, more guidelines than actual rules. The USSF has repeatedly issued waivers for these sorts of "requirements" for decades in order to support the growth of soccer.

They are not likely to refuse new teams so long as the clear majority of clubs are US-based.

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One clever little detail of the Twin or Split season is the ability to facilitate mid year expansion, as per the Cosmos.

Petrone could well have been looking at July 2014 prior to the floods.

Slightly off thread it was nice to see Chris Hatfield as Grand Marshall for the Stampede. I was half expecting Noah to show up.

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Wow!!!!! According to this latest article, it appears that the 3:1 USSF/NASL policy on Canadian franchises joining the NASL is NOT having any affect whatsoever in the process of expansion. It appears that it's all systems go irregardless of the 3:1 quota. In fact, it appears to me that NASL commissioner Bill Peterson is totally ignoring the rules. It looks like Winnipeg and Calgary are expected to join within a year or two.

Over the past three years the NASL has been walking the tightrope with the USSF regarding its sanctioning. While the USSF allowed the NASL to temporarily be in breach of the Professional League Standards (3 of 8 non-US based in 2011, teams playing in facilities of less than 5,000 seats, minimum of franchises and multiple franchise ownership), the USSF has made it abundantly clear that it would revoke sanctioning in the future if the standards are not adhered to. With the USL anxious to regain Div 2 status, it would be sheer folly for the NASL to ignore the USSF and its rules.

A go around that I have been suggesting would be to "divide" the NASL into two conferences, one operated by the USSF and the other operated by the CSA. This would permit the NASL to have as many Canadian teams as it could manage in its Canadian Conference without affecting the US Conference. Will this happen? Probably not, because it would require the CSA to become somewhat proactive and involved in the professional game.