Ivanovski94 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Being realistic Canada is a small footballing nation, I like to make the comparison. in terms of how much we achieve in Our confederation and in terms of qualifying, to maybe Austria. We are competitive but we just cant get it right or whatever. Now as fans we know this(i hope) but we should hold the CSA to a high standard, again using uefa comparisons,like germany in austrain terms. But holding ourselves to a high standard though we are not there will make our accomplishments less so. So what do you guys believe I just want to know how we perceive our country to be and at what standard should we hold them too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We're definitely Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOGAKANATA Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Dropping games to cuba is unacceptable, and beating the usa and giving Mex a run should be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We are out once again. So what else is new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 If New Zealand was in Asia that would be the perfect comparison. I like the wales one too but UEFA is so different and although we are a global minnow we are a top 10 CONCACAF side. I can't say wales is a top ten UEFA side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanovski94 Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 Ok Wales is a better comparison, I dont watch wales so didnt want to assume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Canada always has been top 10 team in CONCACAF. It seems like we are good enough to beat against your average CONCACAF team until we face bigger CONCACAF teams where we end up choking. Right now, I would say talent of younger players are improving but we still need more time. Plus, we haven't had any quality coaches (both youth and senior) in a while. I wonder if we had a quality manager where we would be right now in CONCACAF (probably top 6 team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We're definitely Wales. definitely Wales. Lots of similarities. Have only ever made the world cup once. A very small number of professional teams that play in a foreign league and play very few domestic players. Football isn't the most popular sport. Ditched by ********** so he could play for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I have been following our MNT since the time when we were coached by Barrie Clarke and I am sorry to say that I have not seen any improvements. I strongly believe this failure it not because we don't have players with natural talent and potential, but rather we don't have a system that allows coaches to identify such players at a young age, nor have we had coaches that know what a good players looks like. I have read that now in Ontario there are plans to eliminate score keeping in youth games, perhaps it is a baby step. I would like to see de-structuring organized youth soccer and un-affiliating teams and clubs. Let kids play in impromptu games in mixed aged teams. Kids learn by playing a relaxed game and by imitating older and more talented players. Very little is learned from coaches. Tony Waiters and his qualifying is always mentioned as a exception in our history, but as good as he may have been, he is the first one to recognized that the NASL of the time provided a learning school for his players. Some of us have already discounted 2018 as a possible qualification and are looking now at 2022. Can our dear CSA and Provinces see the light in the next 10 years? Is there really a Santa Claus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I have been following our MNT since the time when we were coached by Barrie Clarke and I am sorry to say that I have not seen any improvements. I strongly believe this failure it not because we don't have players with natural talent and potential, but rather we don't have a system that allows coaches to identify such players at a young age, nor have we had coaches that know what a good players looks like. I have read that now in Ontario there are plans to eliminate score keeping in youth games, perhaps it is a baby step. I would like to see de-structuring organized youth soccer and un-affiliating teams and clubs. Let kids play in impromptu games in mixed aged teams. Kids learn by playing a relaxed game and by imitating older and more talented players. Very little is learned from coaches. Tony Waiters and his qualifying is always mentioned as a exception in our history, but as good as he may have been, he is the first one to recognized that the NASL of the time provided a learning school for his players. Some of us have already discounted 2018 as a possible qualification and are looking now at 2022. Can our dear CSA and Provinces see the light in the next 10 years? Is there really a Santa Claus? To be honest, we need a professional league of our own to give our players a place to play and improve on their skills at competitive level. We are only few nations in the world that doesn't have their own 1st division pro league which is sad given resources we have in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 To be honest, we need a professional league of our own to give our players a place to play and improve on their skills at competitive level. We are only few nations in the world that doesn't have their own 1st division pro league which is sad given resources we have in this country. Yes I agree with you and it is shameful that we as a rich country don't have professional leagues. Following my perception I must wonder if the quality of our young players filling in those pro teams will make the teams strong enough to be on equal terms with pro teams of other countries so as to compete fairly in cups equivalent to Copa America, Libertadores, UEFA, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We're Wales without Gareth Bale lol I'm somewhat confident in the realm of those old Adidas commercials Bale + 10 could get us to the hex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj52 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Rich country? Since when did the definition of rich become spending more than you can pay back? I think you''ll have to redifine it strictly as having the ability to get mired ever deeper into debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 It is asinine to say that Canada isn't a wealthier country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj52 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 It is asinine to say that Canada isn't a wealthier country. It's asinine to claim that Canadian governments have some kind of unlimited wealth. We run deficits and accumulate national debt for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren to deal with. It's true that a small percentage of Canadians are wealthy, there are also extrememly wealthy people in poorer countries. What would you cut so Soccer can have handouts from government - health care? education? infrastructure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 We just need "wealthy" Canadians (or even non-Canadian) to invest in Canadian first division soccer league. There's no need for government handouts. When comes to pro sports, there isn't a lot of competition in Canada outside of NHL and CFL. If "poorer" countries can have their own league and produce good players with small population, then can't Canada with population over 30 million do the same? Answer to a lot of problems in this country when comes to soccer comes down to having a pro league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 It's asinine to claim that Canadian governments have some kind of unlimited wealth. We run deficits and accumulate national debt for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren to deal with. It's true that a small percentage of Canadians are wealthy, there are also extrememly wealthy people in poorer countries. What would you cut so Soccer can have handouts from government - health care? education? infrastructure? Fiscal policy is one thing, but by GDP, GDP per capita or any other metric, Canada is a wealthy country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 It's asinine to claim that Canadian governments have some kind of unlimited wealth. We run deficits and accumulate national debt for our grandchildren and great-grandchildren to deal with. It's true that a small percentage of Canadians are wealthy, there are also extrememly wealthy people in poorer countries. What would you cut so Soccer can have handouts from government - health care? education? infrastructure? Wow, you really are running down a path of your own making here. To conclude a call for government handouts for soccer from a an accurate generic statement like "given the resources we have in this country" suggest you are filling in a lot of blanks differently than the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 This thread is unnecessary. We'll be fine in about ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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