msilverstein47 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2013/01/23/mls-usl-pro-reach-deal-restructured-reserve-league http://uslpro.uslsoccer.com/scripts/runisa.dll?M2:gp::72013+L3/Display+E+NDX+NDX+690349 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Definitely an interesting development. Hopefully that will eventually help to provide a way for the stronger Canadian PDL teams who have expressed aspirations to step up to more of a pro level (e.g. Victoria and London) to do so based on an affiliation with a Canadian MLS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Not that I should care as Canadian resident but How does the US Open Cup run now? SKC can't readily play against Orlando if their affiliated, Neither can New England/Rochester nor DC United/Richmond if their rumored tie ins are confirmed. As for Canadian sides moving into USL-Pro the CSA stance is below. http://the11.ca/category/nasl-usl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't see why there would be a problem with the US Open Cup. In a lot of continental European countries the U-23 teams of top clubs play in lower leagues and enter the national cup competitions. Victor Montagliani bringing semi-pro leagues into this is absolutely ridiculous. D3 in USSF sanctioning terms is a completely different scale of operations from D3 in a CSA context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 http://aol.sportingnews.com/soccer/story/2013-01-23/mls-united-soccer-leagues-david-beckham-sporting-kansas-city-orlando-city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Don't see why there would be a problem with the US Open Cup. In a lot of continental European countries the U-23 teams of top clubs play in lower leagues and enter the national cup competitions. Victor Montagliani bringing semi-pro leagues into this is absolutely ridiculous. D3 in USSF sanctioning terms is a completely different scale of operations from D3 in a CSA context. Its not the U-23 academy sides that I have an issue with. To be honest, if not for the geographical issues its I wouldn't mind seeing an FCEDMONTON U-23 reseve side playing PDL or another regional league. I'm more interested in the senario where say Kansas draw Orlando (using this example as they have confirmed their affiliation) in the second round, As you know in England and scotland loan players are cup tied, but in general this usually on effects one or two players at he most. If an affiliate club with 4or 5 players set down from on high, Draws it parent team, that chooses to call back its players, its effectivley dictating/ manipulating the result of the game. (a thus any betting that may occur). How would this effect CONCACAF's sanctioning of the LAMAR cup winners eligability for the CCL. All that been said In those europen leagues of which you speak what happens if One of the U-23 sides draw their Parent club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 All that been said In those europen leagues of which you speak what happens if One of the U-23 sides draw their Parent club? They play against each other and one side wins and the other loses as in any other cup tie: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=575358&sec=europe&root=europe&cc=3888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 This situation happened to me In Leeds and District Cup Final game where Yorshire Amatures U18 played their U-17 counter parts. The winners however were not looking to move forward into a major international Competition the following season. So what safeguards are in place to stop the Senior club, that no doubt pays all the wages, dictating or putting pressure on the subordinate to field a team that cannot possibly win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 How many different threads are we going to have on the same topic? "msilverstein47" if that is your real name, you need to stop creating multiple topics on the same subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobar dan Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 blocking Canadian ownership joining the USL Pro is not right unless the CSA can offer an alternative, which at this time we don't have. The CSL cannot be deemed a D3 Canadian League when all the teams are in Ontario: By not permitting Canadian teams joining the USL Pro is holding back development and opportunity, USL Pro is a better standard than the CSL, there is not one CSL team that would compete with Orlando City. If the CSA roll out a D2 league (and not u23, where in the world has a Pro league with an age restriction!) in the next year, then yes I totally agree with their point, but they need to offer an alternative if taking something away. Yet another progressive move in the US, the MLS - USL partnership in my view is an excellent idea to help players play competitive games every week, which helps development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 So what safeguards are in place to stop the Senior club, that no doubt pays all the wages, dictating or putting pressure on the subordinate to field a team that cannot possibly win? None. It's the luck of the draw when a tie like that comes out of the hat. What you maybe need to bear in mind is that in a lot of countries, the national cup competition isn't taken all that seriously by clubs. The United States falls into that category. blocking Canadian ownership joining the USL Pro is not right unless the CSA can offer an alternative, ... From the quotes it looks like Canadian USL Pro teams affiliated to the three MLS franchises might be possible, the USL just wouldn't get official sanctioning as the D3 tier in a Canadian context. It's ridiculous that MLS is being portrayed as something alien to elite player development in Canada when most of the rosters for youth national teams are now comprised of players from their academy systems. The USL-MLS link up should help fill the void between U-18 academy level and being on an MLS senior roster making it easier for Canadian players to make the big breakthrough in that regard. If the CSA exec does anything to interfere with that they should be forced to resign en masse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark83 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 None. It's the luck of the draw when a tie like that comes out of the hat. What you maybe need to bear in mind is that in a lot of countries, the national cup competition isn't taken all that seriously by clubs. The United States falls into that category. That's not true. Winning the US Open Cup automatically qualifies you for the CONCACAF Champions League, many teams have been stepping it up since 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 OK, this is actually a move in the right direction. This means that only one "TFC" or 'Whitecaps" would compete in the Voyageurs Cup but that any other Cdn teams could compete in the Cup and have the benefit of league play against a reliable club. Now if the CSA would get their heads out of their asses and sanction USLPro teams in Canada we would be all set. Unless they have the money (ie: major national sponsors and club backers) already lined up for a national, regionally-organized, D3 they should get out of the way. I see no reason why they could not make sanctioning of Cdn USLPro teams contingent on quotas for both roster spots and playing spots. they could insist that 12 roster spots be Canadians and that at least 6 players on the field are Canadian. If a club fails to maintain those quotas their sanction could be pulled immediately or denied for the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Montreal vs. Rochester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 That's not true. Winning the US Open Cup automatically qualifies you for the CONCACAF Champions League, many teams have been stepping it up since 2008. And at least the English fans still take the FA Cup seriously, all the way down to the Non league level http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21095990 I say fans as I'm sure some of the EPL owners would love to free up the FA cup dates for lucrative overseas jaunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 yes Ted, that is my real name...and I'm new to the board so I apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 yes Ted, that is my real name...and I'm new to the board so I apologize I keep reading the first four letters of your name as MISL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 yes Ted, that is my real name...and I'm new to the board so I apologize LOL No worries! Good to have you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 http://www.socceramerica.com/article/52967/clubs-look-to-add-second-teams.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 NYRB looking to affiliate... http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/redbulls2.php?article_id=38516 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 http://www.uslsoccer.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=32800&ATCLID=209983290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 TFC II vs FC Montreal. Starts in 20 minutes. 12:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TrM8qBUyMg#t=546 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 FC Montreal did not look great, came out nervous and only had flashes of quality throughout the game. Babouli was good for TFC althogh this was a pretty sloppy game overall but TFC was clearly better in most areas of the pitch. Montreal would be better served following the Whitecaps model and sprinkling in some USL veterans to bring the overall quality of the team up and help their best prospects develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootmaster_44 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'm curious what was the attendance for the game? I am wondering whether this will be like the reserves league where few people show up or whether the supporter groups would come out in force for the USL squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 A Impact fan tweeted me it was at best 500. But neither club mentioned it in their match report and last time I was able to check USL's site it wasn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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