canadianfoot Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Host: China Date: January 10-17, 2013 TV Broadcast: ?????? - China (17th Ranking, 7th Dec 2012) - CANADA(7th) - Norway (12th) to be coached by Even Pellerud - South Korea (16th) In January the tournament happens but will it be shown here at home? Anyone knows? There isn't too much info available about this tournament if anyone has any I to as to the venue and broadcast, post it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The last one of these wasn't broadcast in Canada but it was broadcast in China and there were web streams to be found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 By combing the site of the Norwegian national team, I have learned that Canada - Norway is on January 16 at 18:00 local time, which I believe will be 02:00 PST, 05:00 EST. January 12 18:00: Norway - South Korea January 14 15:00: Norway - China January 16 18:00: Canada - Norway Neither the Korean nor the Chinese (nor the Canadian) sites are any help whatsoever. EDIT: it looks like the games may be double headers with China always getting the early game, in which case we can infer: January 12 15:00: China - Canada January 14 18:00: Canada - South Korea January 16 18:00: Canada - Norway ...but of course that's unofficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nice find. Was too tired yesterday to try and figure out the schedule. Saw an article on Sportsnet.ca about the tournament. Maybe we should @mail them? No Hockey, tournament in Ufa, Russia will be done so they need to fill their schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nice find. Was too tired yesterday to try and figure out the schedule. Saw an article on Sportsnet.ca about the tournament. Maybe we should @mail them? No Hockey, tournament in Ufa, Russia will be done so they need to fill their schedule. I would have e-mailed the CSA but I'm pretty sure the media crew is all on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Lord Bob have done both(CSA & Sportsnet) hope at least one answers.....within a week. Since now it's the holidays, and New Year is around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The Chinese team has been in a free-fall dropping from #10 two years ago to #19 this summer. But a good AFC tournament has them stopping the bleeding and finally moving in the other direction and up to #17. And they're making good managerial moves and are going to keep climbing. Women's soccer in China is definitely in another area code from North America. Despite pushing towards 1.5 billion people their number of registered women is shockingly small. Life in China is modest to begin with, and that's reflected in the monthly wages of a national player which is 1000 Yuan/Renmibi, or about $160 Canadian. They do however cover modest residence and food for all amateur women's teams that qualify for the national championships though, otherwise they would probably not exist. We think women's soccer compensation is a big issue in Canada but it's nothing compared to China as it's been causing them to lose players. Today in Beijing the women were hawking hair care products in their stylish Adidas kit. A run-down of their past half-year, which is tri-phase with a month of games followed by five months off and then another month of games: May 27 USA 1-4 @ Chester, PA May 30 CANADA 0-1 @ Moncton, NB Jun 17 NEW ZEALAND 3-1 @ Mangere, NZ Jun 20 NEW ZEALAND 1-0 @ Auckland, NZ ------------ 5 months off ------------ Nov 20 HONG KONG 6-0 @ Shenzen, CN Nov 22 TAIPEI 2-0 @ Shenzen, CN Nov 24 AUSTRALIA 2-1 @ Shenzen, CN Dec 08 USA 0-2 @ Detroit, US Dec 12 USA 0-4, @ Houston, US Dec 15 USA 1-4 @ Boca Raton, US The Four Nations is just a tightener for the Steel Roses as they prepare for the Algarve in early March Group A - Germany, Japan, Denmark, Norway, Group B - United States, Sweden, Iceland, China One way to learn your weaknesses and what you need to work on is to play the Americans four times in a row in quick succession. Some of the better-known players: Ma Xiaoxu (the female Wayne Rooney) Pu Wei (Captain, 3 World Cups and 3 Olympics) Zhang Yue (tall and lanky, the prototype next-generation women's goalkeeper) The rest of the squad is here: http://sports.sohu.com/20121224/n361413422.shtml After three major operations by her 20th year, their superstar striker Ma Xiaoxu is back in form. The Chinese women's 2013 plan: http://www.fa.org.cn/bulletin/women/2012-12-24/390035.html They are in camp three weeks from Boxing Day to January 16 preparing for the China Yongchuan Shikoku Women's Invitational and training at the Guangzhou Tianhe Sports Center, No. 148, Tianhe District. Team: Dalian: Bi Yan, Ma Xiaoxu, Wang Fei, Wang Dongni, Linya Ni Beijing: Zhang Yue, Wang Chen, Wang Lingling, Chin Ching Fei, Zhao Jiangsu: Zeng Ying, Zhou Fei Fei, Wang Lisi, Ma Jun Tianjin: Han Peng, Wang Shanshan, Ding Xuan Shanghai: Pu Wei, Lijia Yue, Wang Yingying People's Liberation Army: Zhang Rui, Liu Hui Changchun: Ren Gui Xin, Song Yan Zhuang Zhejiang: Wu Haiyan, Li Ying Henan: Lou Jiahui Shandong: Xiaohui Interesting on the staff are technical resources from Germany and the Netherlands and four researchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 It's definitely in Chongqing, and it sounds like they may have brought back Bi Yan. http://sports.sohu.com/20121229/n361959715.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I still can not get over the fact that this tournement is Canada's first games since the Olympics, how the CSA could not take advantage of the Olympic fever and play a series of games across the country throughout the fall. I know the USSF is much bigger organization with the money to back it up, but the US women have played 10 games all on domestic soil since London. Now the Algrave Cup is another issue all together, how has Canada not played in it since 2001, especially this year having won bronze and currently ranked 7th in the world. It is not the CSA's role to get the best opportunities for our teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I still can not get over the fact that this tournement is Canada's first games since the Olympics, how the CSA could not take advantage of the Olympic fever and play a series of games across the country throughout the fall. I know the USSF is much bigger organization with the money to back it up, but the US women have played 10 games all on domestic soil since London. Hosting Japan in Vancouver would have been a marquee match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I still can not get over the fact that this tournement is Canada's first games since the Olympics, how the CSA could not take advantage of the Olympic fever and play a series of games across the country throughout the fall. I know the USSF is much bigger organization with the money to back it up, but the US women have played 10 games all on domestic soil since London. I remember a few years ago under a different coach, some cities would offer to host the women national team for a friendly and cover all expenses. The CSA taking a cut of ticket sales. The provincial associations and the CSA need to be more innovative and proactive, set aside the red tape and benefit from the momentum the our women players had accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The players looked pretty tired at the end of the Olympics, and seemed ready to just go home and relax. I wonder if that had any influence on the scheduling of games since then? Also, keeping the team together for more games may have gone against Herdman's plan to start introducing young players into it. There may be more to the lack of celebratory games than just CSA incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Money and resources would be the factors. It takes money to host games, you have to pay the opponents fees. We would likely never make gate coverage outside the GTA/GMA/GVA, and all would require an army of time and resources to market the events. The Americans just tied Germany twice but the other eight games were against #9, #17, and #34. They have money and depth out the yang and are always going to be competitive on the field. We don't have either and have to pick our spots and look to utilize our resources to peak at key moments. If we had the money to be fine-tuned enough to compete with top five opposition on a regular basis the Algarve would be an option, but we don't and Cyprus is a better fit. Especially since as you have alluded, Herdman has said we're going to try and adapt our play and players. Before you can do that against Tier 1 teams you have to do it against Tier 2. Not sure there are that many Japanese women's football fans in Vancouver. France in Montreal would be good and with things where they lie it would be hard to beat the Americans anywhere. The provincial associations and the CSA need to be more innovative and proactive... Innovative and proactive, two very well chosen words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Not sure there are that many Japanese women's football fans in Vancouver. Defending World Cup champs and Olympic silver medalists? Based on the turnout for the zone qualifiers you don't think these same fans would come out for a team with those credentials? Hard to say. The Americans are always the gold standard draw, for sure. Maybe Marta and Brazil, theatrics included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think the GVA would support the team and anyone they played. How many though I'm not sure. I think marketing is always a big part of it. Because of their name, Brazil is usually a good draw. The only downside is the lack of class and whining isn't really that enjoyable to watch. In men's soccer where the skill level of players like Neymar is so mesmerizing it offsets the "theatrics" and is worth the 90 minutes, the women's game doesn't have that element. If you've just watched the Brazilian women play, odds are you're leaving with a pretty dour view of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I think the GVA would support the team and anyone they played. How many though I'm not sure. I think marketing is always a big part of it. Because of their name, Brazil is usually a good draw. The only downside is the lack of class and whining isn't really that enjoyable to watch. In men's soccer where the skill level of players like Neymar is so mesmerizing it offsets the "theatrics" and is worth the 90 minutes, the women's game doesn't have that element. If you've just watched the Brazilian women play, odds are you're leaving with a pretty dour view of the game. I agree with all your points here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Old Fullback Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I still can not get over the fact that this tournement is Canada's first games since the Olympics, how the CSA could not take advantage of the Olympic fever and play a series of games across the country throughout the fall. I know the USSF is much bigger organization with the money to back it up, but the US women have played 10 games all on domestic soil since London. Now the Algrave Cup is another issue all together, how has Canada not played in it since 2001, especially this year having won bronze and currently ranked 7th in the world. It is not the CSA's role to get the best opportunities for our teams. I suppose it depends on who you speak with, but I've heard both sides of the story. Some players were anxious to continue the ride, but others were wanting/needing a break. I suppose one of the only persons who's answer really matters is Mr. Herdman, and if this was his time to get some family time, and let the team heal a bit, then it would be his decision for the rest. Herdman has a young family, and has been very engaged with the team for many months, he certainly deserved some family time. I have also heard comments that the US had to do the tour as part of the financial commmittments to the team, regardless if the players wanted to do it or not. I'm sure they had some bruises that could have used some heal time. Maybe it played a part in the coach deciding to go back to Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Official schedule released (all times local): January 12 14:00: China - Canada January 14 19:00: Canada - South Korea January 16 17:00: Canada - Norway http://www.canadasoccer.com/yongchuan-cup-schedule-announced-p152943 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Official schedule released (all times local): January 12 14:00: China - Canada January 14 19:00: Canada - South Korea January 16 17:00: Canada - Norway http://www.canadasoccer.com/yongchuan-cup-schedule-announced-p152943 Man please have a TV Network pick this up. I am craving for some Canadian Footy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Man please have a TV Network pick this up. I am craving for some Canadian Footy. Same here, I am tired of having to chase all over the internet trying to find a stream and enduring poor quality video, cuts and some foreign language. I think our girls deseve top quality TV coverage after what they accomplished. Come on Montigliani... do something for a change and surprise us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Same here, I am tired of having to chase all over the internet trying to find a stream and enduring poor quality video, cuts and some foreign language. I think our girls deseve top quality TV coverage after what they accomplished. Come on Montigliani... do something for a change and surprise us! Found this: @AlyssaLuz CanadaSoccerTV will be providing coverage, but not clear what type of video will be feasible. We'll let you know. #canWNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 China's CCTV5 has regularly covered their women's games for quite a while and the stream can usually be picked up if as the Ref say's you're willing to spend the time to scour the web and deal with low and sometimes harsh quality. But out of 10 soccer fans that's maybe one person. Look for a flash-based and web-page based streaming site and be really cautious about installing anything and from anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 CANADA GK- Karina LeBlanc | GK- Erin McLeod | SWE / Dalsjöfors G.o.I.F. CB- Kadeisha Buchanan | CAN / Erin Mills Mighty Eagles U-16 CB- Shelina Zadorsky | CAN / Toronto Lady Lynx CB- Emily Zurrer | SWE / Dalsjöfors G.o.I.F. FB- Robyn Gayle | FB- Bryanna McCarthy | USA / University of West Virginia FB- Lauren Sesselmann | FB- Rhian Wilkinson | NOR / Lillestrøm SK Kvinner M- Kaylyn Kyle | M- Ashley Lawrence | CAN / Erin Mills Mighty Eagles M- Diana Matheson | NOR / Lillestrøm SK Kvinner M- Christabel Oduro | CAN / Hamilton FC M- Sophie Schmidt | SWE / Kristianstads DFF M- Desiree Scott | CAN / WSA North Stars M- Chelsea Stewart | USA / UCLA F- Tiffany Cameron | USA / Ohio State University F- Adriana Leon | USA / University of Florida F- Nichelle Prince | CAN / Pickering SC F- Jodi-Ann Robinson | F- Christine Sinclair | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Roster announced (EDIT: orletafc got there seconds before me) http://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-wnt-names-roster-for-yongchuan-cup-p152947-preview-1 Young batch. Tancredi apparently wants to focus on school, according to Herdman at the conference call, and with Sinclair obviously suspended the forwards might be a bit frightening. Interesting not to see Jenna Richardson get the call under the circumstances, but perhaps she's focusing on school too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSpur Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Why is Sinclair on the list if she isn't eligible due to suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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