Kurosawa1555362267 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I spoke with goalkeeper Tomer Chencinski for my blog, here is the english version of the intervew. http://www.optimum-soccer.com/2/post/2012/11/5-answers-with-tomer-chencinski.html And here is a video of him in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zem Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Guess we'll use this thread. http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/news/latest-news/4483-two-new-keepers Chencinski just signed with Irish Premier Division club Shamrock Rovers, seems like a great move for him. Rovers finished third in the league last season, so he will get the chance to play in Europa League next June. Rovers were already eliminated from the current Europa League season. It should be noted that he apparently isn't being signed as a outright starter, he was signed alongside young up-and-comer Kevin Horgan and the article states that the gaffer expects the two to compete for the starting role. That said I would imagine Tomer's experience gives him a big edge, and Horgan only just made his pro debut last season with Galway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boominbooty Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Will we ever see him go to a Canada camp again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 That is a step down in league level from the Swedish top flight. The European play he will see will likely be only early qualification rounds against smaller teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Grizzly said: That is a step down in league level from the Swedish top flight. The European play he will see will likely be only early qualification rounds against smaller teams. Perhaps a step down in overall league level, but he's moving from one of the Allvenskan's worst clubs to one of the LOI's best. He never had any shot at European football with Helsingborgs, so it's a net benefit for him in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 A recent interview with Tomer on his career, his move to Ireland and his first season with Rovers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I know little about the league - standard of play, financial support, attendance, etc... Seems as I'd average attendance is around 1,500. Salary just hovering from semi pro to a modest 40k Euro max. What am I missing here. Why is Ireland's top flight so underwhelming for a proud football nation. How was the standard of play? "This year the highest earner in the League of Ireland is on €40,000 per year, while the average wage of a Premier Division player is just €16,000 per year" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Bump...^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 On 2017-03-02 at 0:55 AM, hamiltonfan said: I know little about the league - standard of play, financial support, attendance, etc... Seems as I'd average attendance is around 1,500. Salary just hovering from semi pro to a modest 40k Euro max. What am I missing here. Why is Ireland's top flight so underwhelming for a proud football nation. How was the standard of play? "This year the highest earner in the League of Ireland is on €40,000 per year, while the average wage of a Premier Division player is just €16,000 per year" The league is relatively good quality, but the clubs are very poor financially. As a result it's hard to attract talent from abroad and difficult to keep good young or middle-aged players around when they can make better money playing in League 1 or 2. A good number of Irish national team players begin development at home, but quickly move to England once they get noticed. Along with the low level of play compared to the English and Scottish Premier Leagues, soccer has to compete with hurling and Gaelic football which are the two most popular sports in the Republic of Ireland; so those are the main factors behind the low attendance. Shamrock Rovers are one of the league's more monied teams though, so it's not crazy for Tomer to move there from a smaller Swedish club like Helsingborg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 The Irish league is distorted, no team is "average" (kind of like HK, where no one earns the per capita income, either far higher or far lower)... The haves pay and draw more and the have nots can't get 500 fans and have to pay accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 On 2017/03/02 at 6:25 AM, hamiltonfan said: What am I missing here. Why is Ireland's top flight so underwhelming for a proud football nation. It isn't really a proud football nation. Gaelic football, hurling (mainly in the south and west) and even rugby to a certain extent are all arguably more popular there. If you go back about a century or so to when the Republic of Ireland (known at the time as the Free State) first split away from the UK, football/soccer was viewed as being a British sport and tended to be discouraged for political reasons by Irish nationalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 45 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: It isn't really a proud football nation. Gaelic football, hurling (mainly in the south and west) and even rugby to a certain extent are all arguably more popular there. If you go back about a century or so to when the Republic of Ireland (known at the time as the Free State) first split away from the UK, football/soccer was viewed as being a British sport and tended to be discouraged for political reasons by Irish nationalists. I find this somewhat shocking considering their (impressive) international record and personal interactions with expats living in Toronto. Interesting to note though. fyi..International results, 2016: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/teams/republic-of-ireland/results With all this said, Ireland seems to a good example of a country that does not rely on a professional domestic league to foster international success. As others have mentioned in this thread, Ireland relies on neighboring foreign leagues to develop their players. Development seems to be supplemented by the lower level domestic league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 The good international record only started with the grandparent eligibility rule in the late 80s as it meant that players born and raised in the UK could be used given the high rate of emigration from the RoI in the decades before that. The politically motivated antipathy towards football/soccer weakened considerably after that and there's a lot of interest in the English Premiership, but the domestic league is still basically semi-pro as the Gaelic sports still have most of the spectator interest especially outside Dublin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 19 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: The good international record only started with the grandparent eligibility rule in the late 80s as it meant that players born and raised in the UK could be used given the high rate of emigration from the RoI in the decades before that. The politically motivated antipathy towards football/soccer weakened considerably after that and there's a lot of interest in the English Premiership, but the domestic league is still basically semi-pro as the Gaelic sports still have most of the spectator interest especially outside Dublin. Who's old enough to remember when Wimbledon moved to Milton Keynes? Their first choice - Dublin. The FAI had a fit, as they said it would kill the domestic league and wanted no part of English football. What if... I brought up the Irish league a few times in the thread about the CPL. I think there's a lot of parallels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Highlights from the second leg of Shamrock Rovers' 2-0 aggregate win over Stjarnan; impressive game for Tomer, including a brilliant double save early on. Tomer also did an interview on a League of Ireland podcast the other day, he starts at 33:40: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Chencinski will be returning to Shamrock Rovers in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boominbooty Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 nice. I'd like to see him get a call up to camp poutine. I wonder what a good Keeper in the Irish Premier League makes: $100,000? more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycoyster Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, Boominbooty said: nice. I'd like to see him get a call up to camp poutine. I wonder what a good Keeper in the Irish Premier League makes: $100,000? more? According to this article from 2015, the highest paid player in the whole league made 40,000 euros a season and the average salary was 16,000 euros. All but a few players maintained second jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Boominbooty said: nice. I'd like to see him get a call up to camp poutine. I wonder what a good Keeper in the Irish Premier League makes: $100,000? more? 2 hours ago, harrycoyster said: According to this article from 2015, the highest paid player in the whole league made 40,000 euros a season and the average salary was 16,000 euros. All but a few players maintained second jobs. Yeah, the Irish league has been generally strapped for cash for a very long time. Attendances are poor, the league's prize money is terrible and tv coverage is limited and almost certainly doesn't pay out for the clubs. I would guess that wages are better since 2015 and the average will ceratinly go up next year since the league is moving to 10 clubs instead of 12, but it's still quite bad by European standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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