zeelaw Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Thought it would need its own thread in here. http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/content.php?3873-BREAKING-Copa-America-2016-to-be-played-next-door South America's nations tournament's centennial to be played in the U.S. with six CONCACAF teams. The news broke late Wednesday afternoon, CONMEBOL has confirmed the 45th edition of the Copa America will be played in the United States in 2016 with 16 teams, 10 from CONMEBOL and six from CONCACAF. According to South American sources, these six CONCACAF guests would be the United States (hosts), Mexico and "four other teams with the best standings in the previous CONCACAF Gold Cup tournament". This has yet to be confirmed by CONCACAF. South American football authorities also invited Japan and Mexico to play Copa America 2015 in Chile. A few days after a catastrophic elimination for Brazil 2014, this can only be good news for Canada with a new important pit stop on its way to Russia 2018. The summer of 2016 should also be the stage for the semi-final round of qualifying for CONCACAF nations for the Russian World Cup. It will be interesting to see how this will translate also for the 2017 Confederations Cup tournament since the CONCACAF and CONMEBOL representatives usually come from their separate nations tournament and not from a joint event. Uruguay, winner in 2011 holds the record with 15 continental titles in South America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Someone tell me how to feel about this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Someone tell me how to feel about this! here is 13 pages of response. http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?40896-16-team-Copa-America-including-CONCACAF-proposed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Not much a surprise considering they have been talking about this for awhile now.The real surprise is that its being played in the US. With this change, this tournament has the potential to generate even more money, and turn into the eastern uefa cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 We need to take the upcoming Gold Cup very seriously, as we really should anyways. This gives us another major tournament to shoot for, and a goal/purpose to develop towards along with the 2018 WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 here is 13 pages of response. http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?40896-16-team-Copa-America-including-CONCACAF-proposed I know they were talking about it, but didn't know were that close to a decision. Even though it being 4 years away. I think I'm looking for something to be excited about after what happened last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcm144 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Announced as expected, its great for us. We should get a pretty good shot to get to this 2016 Copa America tournament. Another major tournament other then the WC to look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Announced as expected, its great for us. We should get a pretty good shot to get to this 2016 Copa America tournament. Another major tournament other then the WC to look forward to. I don't know how strong our odds are, I mean they're only allowing 6 CONCACAF teams, and our track record on getting to the final six in CONCACAF competitions is...shaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Does the current Gold Cup format even have a way of determining the top 6 teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djcuse Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 This 2013 Gold Cup doesn't have bearing on the other 4 Concacaf teams who qualify for the 2016 Copa America. They will use the standings from the 2015 Gold Cup.. We need to take the upcoming Gold Cup very seriously, as we really should anyways. This gives us another major tournament to shoot for, and a goal/purpose to develop towards along with the 2018 WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCfan4life Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 It's the only thing we got left now. So, we should take it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ok I'm excited about this...but I'm still recovering from "the game" so my hopes right now of being top 6 in CONCACAF are low. Need more time to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I don't want to even think about this. The thought of a copa America next door with us not being one of the 6 CONCACAF teams involved would be another nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's a bit of a rip-off that USA and Mexico get in automatically. That makes this a much more obvious cash-grab by both federations. At least Mexico should have to, as the USA is the host. If 8 quarter-finalists include Mexico and USA, and those two advance with two others, how will they decide which two of the four eliminated teams will qualify? I can see some teams getting short-changed on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I know people are excited about this, as am I, but it isn't something to keep us going before the next cycle of qualifying. Come the summer of 2016 we probably already will have started the semi-final round of our 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 This 2013 Gold Cup doesn't have bearing on the other 4 Concacaf teams who qualify for the 2016 Copa America. They will use the standings from the 2015 Gold Cup.. Ah ok, didn't realize we still have 2 GC's between this tournament. Either way thats good for us that we have 2 gold cups and 1 Copa America to shoot for and keep things relevant. Hopefully the CSA and players take these 2 gold cups very seriously, and we can field A teams. Also this gives any coach we hire a lot more guaranteed and potential competitive games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Assuming the yanks and mexicans make at least the semi's in the 2015 gold cup, it basically means the quarterfinal losers would playoff for the last two spots in Copa America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's a bit of a rip-off that USA and Mexico get in automatically. That makes this a much more obvious cash-grab by both federations. At least Mexico should have to, as the USA is the host. If 8 quarter-finalists include Mexico and USA, and those two advance with two others, how will they decide which two of the four eliminated teams will qualify? I can see some teams getting short-changed on this one. Don't get it wrong, this is completely motivated as a cash grab. They are holding the CA in the US purely for monetary reasons, if they somehow missed out on Mexico that would be a big blow. Its still not as bad as the US hosting the GC every single time. Even if it is a cash grab, I think for the overall good of the game in both confederations and the countries involved this is a good thing. This will be the 3rd biggest tournament in the world if they can do it right, and it gives us a chance to participate. Messi, Aguero, Neymar, Hulk, Falcao, Alexis Sanchez, Luis Suarez, Chicharito this tournament has real star power and getting those guys in a tournament in the US is a corporate dream, not only star power but the Copa America is generally great free flowing soccer. All the teams participating should benefit drastically, this is the next best thing to a WC for us and its next door. From a strategic standpoint the CSA needs to target 2015 right now, the 2013 Gold Cup should be viewed with an eye on 2015 qualifying and 2015 GC, that means only players who can help us get to that goal. Should be a youth movement and guys who realistically stand a chance to get us there or who can help the youth develop through a leadership role. We need a coach in place to use the GC in 2013 and friendlies leading up to it to try and mold that team, and give the young guys experience and time to play together building up to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I've thought for a while that the Gold Cup should be held every 2 years, but one of those years can be the WCQ tournament and the other tournament can be the Cops American qualifier. This way there is an important tournament held every year Gold Cup, World Cup, Gold Cup, Cops America. Fill that in with some friendlies and you have a top flight 4 year schedule. What does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmaGonnaWeen Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I think this is great news for us. It gives us a chance at more meaningful games and a string of tournaments with more importance as time goes on (GC2013, GC2015, CA2016, WC2018). Starting next year, we create a squad that will have current #CanMNT players that will (potentially) play in WC2018 (ie no DeRo, McKenna, etc) and start to blood some of the U23's. Let's not worry about the GC2013 results, but simply expose the younger players to the Mens international game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 As blatant as a cash-grab as it is, there is at least some historical basis that can be used to justify it. Mexico are traditionally invited, along with the US who are in as hosts, and given that it's now a true "Copa América" for the entire land-mass "America", the rest of us will have to pre-qualify, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 If this happens, its really our next chance to qualify for a so-called "major international tournament." The casual fan really doesn't give two craps about the Gold Cup but when you throw in Argentina/Brazil etc (especially if a South American team wins the World Cup in '14) it will get a lot more mainstream coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 After last week, my pessimism says we can't beat Costa Rica, Honduras, Jamaica and Panama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 After last week, my pessimism says we can't beat Costa Rica, Honduras, Jamaica and Panama But in the Gold Cup? That's as good a scenario as we could hope for. By 2015 I think we'll have a pretty good team as Hutch and Simpson should still be going at a decent pace factored in with the youngsters coming up, pretty decent scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 But in the Gold Cup? That's as good a scenario as we could hope for. By 2015 I think we'll have a pretty good team as Hutch and Simpson should still be going at a decent pace factored in with the youngsters coming up, pretty decent scenario. I hope Canadian produces a decent striker or two by 2015, or else we are toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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