zeelaw Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Does anyone have any idea when they announce the locations? Apparently 30 are being considered... http://www.concacaf.com/page/GoldCup/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2657806,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Does anyone have any idea when they announce the locations? Apparently 30 are being considered... http://www.concacaf.com/page/GoldCup/NewsDetail/0,,12813~2657806,00.html I think in 2011 it was late January or early February. edit: The cities were announced on December 16 2010. I'm not sure when the groups where announced. Details. edit2: The groups and schedule was announced on March 8 2011. Details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Why does the US have the monopoly on this tournament? Does SUM Marketing permanently own the rights to it? If this is the equivalent to the European Championships for Concacaf, then it seems a bit unfair that they don't rotate the tournament. It doesn't grow it. It doesn't allow for other countries to increase infrastructure. It just doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Why does the US have the monopoly on this tournament? Does SUM Marketing permanently own the rights to it? If this is the equivalent to the European Championships for Concacaf, then it seems a bit unfair that they don't rotate the tournament. It doesn't grow it. It doesn't allow for other countries to increase infrastructure. It just doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense if you are the USA. I would love for Canada to host some games in Toronto with Canada & Jamaica in the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Why does the US have the monopoly on this tournament? Does SUM Marketing permanently own the rights to it? If this is the equivalent to the European Championships for Concacaf, then it seems a bit unfair that they don't rotate the tournament. It doesn't grow it. It doesn't allow for other countries to increase infrastructure. It just doesn't make sense. hosting it in USA makes the most money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 No other tournament in the world is decided solely on that principle. And I would like to see them actually test that theory.....at least once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 They should at least regionalize it. So like a... North-East tournament with Toronto, Montreal, New York, Boston. Pacific Northwest with Vancouver, Seattle, Portland... San Jose? So-Cal with Tijuana, San Diego, LA, Utah. ...or something. The fact that Mexico never hosts is outright craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 They should at least regionalize it. So like a... North-East tournament with Toronto, Montreal, New York, Boston. Pacific Northwest with Vancouver, Seattle, Portland... San Jose? So-Cal with Tijuana, San Diego, LA, Utah. ...or something. The fact that Mexico never hosts is outright craziness. That'd be a good compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_nunezst Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Will there be invited teams? Hopefully a 16 team tournament and at least a group in Canada wishfull thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 hosting it in USA makes the most money Sure, like Canada and Mexico have a horrible track record when it comes to hosting soccer tournaments. Time to rotate this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Sure, like Canada and Mexico have a horrible track record when it comes to hosting soccer tournaments. Time to rotate this one. Canada used 6 venues for 2007 U20 WC. 2011 Gold Cup used 13, incl 93,000 at Rose Bowl for the cup final. Can Canada produce stadiums close to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Canada used 6 venues for 2007 U20 WC. 2011 Gold Cup used 13, incl 93,000 at Rose Bowl for the cup final. Can Canada produce stadiums close to this? Maybe not for the entire tournament, but it would be able to for a group at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Canada used 6 venues for 2007 U20 WC. 2011 Gold Cup used 13, incl 93,000 at Rose Bowl for the cup final. Can Canada produce stadiums close to this? The amount of stadiums used is relative to the objective of the organizers and is not really an impediment with 6 venues. In the last Gold Cup there were 3 Groups with 12 total teams with 13 venues used. In the last World Cup there were 10 venues used with 8 Groups and 32 teams. We can handle a Gold Cup. Most of those games don't require large stadiums either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 There could be a pan-Caribbean bid, they hosted the Cricket World Cup. Canada and Mexico are potential hosts as well. Though at least for the short-term, we have to accept that any potential US-Mexico final is going to be at a big stadium in LA or the southwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSSoccer Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If we couldn't get out of our group for WCQ...I can't see us having an easy time with this one...Granted, we can make to quarterfinals by placing 3rd in our group, but it seems that goal differential will be to Guatemala's and El Salvador's advantage given their weakest opponents (Cuba and Granada, respectively). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Alphonso Applegate Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I agree, we could definitely handle a gold cup, and for sure a group stage at the least. I don't think it needs 12 stadiums to be successful, obviously the US has the benefit of more venues to choose from but we manage. And what if it prompted another facility built somewhere like what happens with other big sporting events/tournaments? Maybe a long shot but it'd be great if it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's things like a refusal to rotate this tournament that are holding it back from gaining world wide credibility. CONCACAF is way down the confederation pecking order right now because of bush league crap like this. I would rate the confederations as follows: UEFA, CONMEBOL, AFC, CAF, CONCACAF, OFC - I think the GC should be once every 4 years. - Expanded to 16 teams (15 from CONCACAF and the Conmebol champions [guest teams cheapen any tournament in my opinion. At least by hosting their champion, Mexico could justify staying in their cup]) - We should have open qualifying rounds to decide all of the entrants. - Qualifying groups should be mixtures of nations from all around the region using seeding systems. This way the minnows could get some experience playing the bigger countries regularly and guarantee more home gamess too. We could have a few large qualifying groups like UEFA (Ex. USA, Costa Rica, Canada, Guyana, Belize, Anguilla). Or we could have a series of qualifying groups that get progressively harder over several rounds, like in WCQ. - Rotate the tournament between Canada, USA, Mexico, and possibly a co-hosting between nations in central america or the carribean. By having Canada playing regular qualifiers for both a continental championship and then the world cup (like UEFA does), we could finally ensure we have a regular full schedule of games every year like real footballing nations and we would get some meaningful games in hostile away environments regularly. How many of our problems would that solve?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler453 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It's things like a refusal to rotate this tournament that are holding it back from gaining world wide credibility. CONCACAF is way down the confederation pecking order right now because of bush league crap like this. I would rate the confederations as follows: UEFA, CONMEBOL, AFC, CAF, CONCACAF, OFC - I think the GC should be once every 4 years. - Expanded to 16 teams (15 from CONCACAF and the Conmebol champions [guest teams cheapen any tournament in my opinion. At least by hosting their champion, Mexico could justify staying in their cup]) - We should have open qualifying rounds to decide all of the entrants. - Qualifying groups should be mixtures of nations from all around the region using seeding systems. This way the minnows could get some experience playing the bigger countries regularly and guarantee more home gamess too. We could have a few large qualifying groups like UEFA (Ex. USA, Costa Rica, Canada, Guyana, Belize, Anguilla). Or we could have a series of qualifying groups that get progressively harder over several rounds, like in WCQ. - Rotate the tournament between Canada, USA, Mexico, and possibly a co-hosting between nations in central america or the carribean. By having Canada playing regular qualifiers for both a continental championship and then the world cup (like UEFA does), we could finally ensure we have a regular full schedule of games every year like real footballing nations and we would get some meaningful games in hostile away environments regularly. How many of our problems would that solve?!?!? This makes too much sense, which means it will never be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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