madmonte Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Wow, because of September losses coming off for us, and devaluing, I just did the math on their neat calculator tool for our FIFA ranking (I know they are bunk, and crap, but whatever, for those who DO care, here's the results, notable because more interesting than usual for what could happen... Starting Points for Sept 5 ranking: 454 - 73rd in the world, 8th in CONCACAF Here are the scenarios Lose both games against Panama: 417 points Naturally that drops us in the standings, but not as horribly as you'd think. Probably about 85th in the world, and 10th or 11th in CONCACAF Lose and draw: 450 points. Teams would be moving around us, but for all general purposes, this scenario that noone wants to see would hardly effect our ranking negatively at all. Two draws: 483 points. That should move us up in the rankings slightly. Probably about 65th in the world, up one or two in CONCACAF, depending on whether the teams close to us (Honduras, El Salvador) in points win or lose. Win one, lose one: 517 points. About the same as two draws, but a little better, probably by about 5 spots in world ranking, and another spot in CONCACAF Win one, draw one: 549 points. HUGE jump. Depending on how Jamaica and Costa Rica hold up against USA and Mexico, could vault us into third in CONCACAF. Could and SHOULD do. About 55th to 60th worldwide. Two wins against Panama: 615 points. Would make us one of the biggest movers worldwide, and jump us about 25 spots on the FIFA rankings. (Hard to predict with all the internationals going on...lots of people will be moving in points, mostly in positive directions. But it would practically assure us of 3rd spot in CONCACAF as well. Jamaica and Costa Rica would have to win both of their games against USA and Mexico and still would be in the single digits only ahead of us in points. I know this is mostly irrelevant info, but I know some guys on here are curious as to how it would work, so I thought i'd do my best to explain the scenarios a little bit. Again if you are wondering why it's so positive, it's because losses are dropping off and being devalued from past competitive matches in September, and that will effect our standings just as big as results against Panama will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Too bad our 2-0 win against T&T doesn't count... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killgod Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 yeah the next 3 months drop off 4L and 1D from our FIFA rank. Although that draw is vs Mexico, still should see good improvement with positive results. We'll likely go up in November without playing matches that month too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 If my calculations are correct the T&T game would only have added enough points to take us just above Honduras (462pts with some rounding) so in terms of the ranking it didn't mean that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 The results are in, here's where we'll end up, only did top 12 teams. (would have done more, but Gold Cup Qualifiers aren't done yet, so the results would be inaccurate till later. Where we were 1) Mexico - 845 2) USA - 697 3) Panama - 591 4) Jamaica - 515 5) Costa Rica - 487 6) El Salvador - 481 7) Honduras - 460 8) Canada - 454 9) Haiti - 439 10) Trinidad & Tobago - 420 11) Guatemala - 384 12) Antigua & Barbuda - 340 Where we will be 1) Mexico - 925 2) USA - 720 3) Panama - 625 4) Jamaica - 583 5) Canada - 516 6) Honduras - 500 7) Haiti - 495 8) Costa Rica - 465 9) Trinidad & Tobago - 442 10) El Salvador - 441 11) Guatemala - 431 12) Antigua & Barbuda - 324 So Canada goes to 5th in the region for the first time since April of 2010. Again I know these rankings are meaningless in many ways, but doing this just for those who might be curious where FIFA has us stacked up. And remember that eventually they won't be meaningless, as the top 6 teams don't have to qualify in the 2nd round in CONCACAF, so that's a reason to want to end up top 6 eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I think I'd rather be 7th so we can play in the second round again. I don't like our chances starting cold in the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I think I'd rather be 7th so we can play in the second round again. I don't like our chances starting cold in the third round. I don't think that'll really be an option since all those upcoming wins in the Hex will boost our ranking for quite a while... Not to mention a couple World Cup upsets. eh???!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I don't think that'll really be an option since all those upcoming wins in the Hex will boost our ranking for quite a while... Not to mention a couple World Cup upsets. eh???!! I like your thinking!! (One can always dream, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I don't think that'll really be an option since all those upcoming wins in the Hex will boost our ranking for quite a while... Not to mention a couple World Cup upsets. eh???!! I'd trade 7th for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_Soccer Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Rankings came out today: 61st in the world and 6th in concacaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Rankings came out today: 61st in the world and 6th in concacaf Wow I was close, their calculator was off on Haiti. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMarc Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Shouldn't we be in 5th, as Haiti's last two games were overvalued. They played friendly but calculated at 2.5 (WCQ)?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Shouldn't we be in 5th, as Haiti's last two games were overvalued. They played friendly but calculated at 2.5 (WCQ)?? Interesting...they may yet fix that...that would put them back at the 495 points I originally predicted them at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teach Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 We are much better than Haiti. Actually, we are also in my opinion better than Jamaica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 We are much better than Haiti. Actually, we are also in my opinion better than Jamaica. When Canada beats USA, maybe we can claim that fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 When Canada beats USA, maybe we can claim that fact What if Canada beats Jamaica? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC07 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Haiti played like 4 games last month (all qualifying games for Gold Cup 2013). I believe they won all those games so their ranking is high because of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Haiti played like 4 games last month (all qualifying games for Gold Cup 2013). I believe they won all those games so their ranking is high because of that. and they dropped two old losses I think. They are recovering after their early WCQ exit, but still overranked IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted October 4, 2012 Author Share Posted October 4, 2012 Haiti played like 4 games last month (all qualifying games for Gold Cup 2013). I believe they won all those games so their ranking is high because of that. Ah correct...so those WERE higher ranking games, thanks for clarifying, this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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