beachesl Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Doncaster have signed Canada international forward Iain Hume on loan from League One rivals Preston until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JamboAl Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 That's a good loan move for Iain; hope it works out. Doncaster Rovers is a decent sized club and should be challenging for promotion back to the Championship this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 That's a good loan move for Iain; hope it works out. Doncaster Rovers is a decent sized club and should be challenging for promotion back to the Championship this season. Agreed. Glad to see my boy found a home. So easy to root for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 That's a good loan move for Iain; hope it works out. Doncaster Rovers is a decent sized club and should be challenging for promotion back to the Championship this season. I have heard that before and PNE disappointed me last season. This guy gotta get out of league 1 and play at his true level, the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Agreed. Glad to see my boy found a home. So easy to root for. Definitely one of the most likeable players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I have heard that before and PNE disappointed me last season. This guy gotta get out of league 1 and play at his true level, the Championship. I really like Hume and his spirit whenever he's played for Canada. But there must be a reason why he isn't in the Championship and maybe it's because he's just no longer good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I really like Hume and his spirit whenever he's played for Canada. But there must be a reason why he isn't in the Championship and maybe it's because he's just no longer good enough. Has nothing to do with that Jambo. Preston North End got relegated, and Hume, out of loyalty, stuck with them. Then last year, when he was injured for a spell, he was unable to play. So how does PNE treat his loyalty? By basically telling him to get out of town this last year. Hume was their best player in the championship, and had always been scoring in bunches on that level. Yeah he was off a bit for injuries, but from what I saw last he played for Canada, they aren't effecting him currently. He is DEFINITELY still championship level. Good on Doncaster for getting such a talented, and still in his prime, guy. This was starting to get ****ing ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Has nothing to do with that Jambo. Preston North End got relegated, and Hume, out of loyalty, stuck with them. Then last year, when he was injured for a spell, he was unable to play. So how does PNE treat his loyalty? By basically telling him to get out of town this last year. Hume was their best player in the championship, and had always been scoring in bunches on that level. Yeah he was off a bit for injuries, but from what I saw last he played for Canada, they aren't effecting him currently. He is DEFINITELY still championship level. Good on Doncaster for getting such a talented, and still in his prime, guy. This was starting to get ****ing ridiculous. Part of that may be true. A lot of what's happened at to Iain at Preston is due to the manager, Graham Westley. He is a bit of a hard man and created quite a few waves when he was at Stevenage with the things he said and did. But you couldn't fault him cause he got them two consecutive promotions from the Blue Square Conference Premier to League One. He then left for Preston when Phil Brown got the heave ho and for some reason, Hume just didn't fit into Westley's plans or they didn't see eye to eye. I can't say for certain if Hume is Championship quality any more; but I think a lot of people underestimate how skillful that league is. There are currently 18 ex-Premier League clubs there and the vast majority of them have Premier League quality players. If Hume does wind up in the Championship, it'll be with a smaller club (e.g. Peterborough or Barnsley) or with not as much playing time as he could get in League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Part of that may be true. A lot of what's happened at to Iain at Preston is due to the manager, Graham Westley. He is a bit of a hard man and created quite a few waves when he was at Stevenage with the things he said and did. But you couldn't fault him cause he got them two consecutive promotions from the Blue Square Conference Premier to League One. He then left for Preston when Phil Brown got the heave ho and for some reason, Hume just didn't fit into Westley's plans or they didn't see eye to eye. I can't say for certain if Hume is Championship quality any more; but I think a lot of people underestimate how skillful that league is. There are currently 18 ex-Premier League clubs there and the vast majority of them have Premier League quality players. If Hume does wind up in the Championship, it'll be with a smaller club (e.g. Peterborough or Barnsley) or with not as much playing time as he could get in League One. Can too fault him. The guy is a douche, if you ask me. Doesn't actually care about his players, at all, and that catches up to guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Can too fault him. The guy is a douche, if you ask me. Doesn't actually care about his players, at all, and that catches up to guys. From a CNMT perspective, you're right. But in a way, every manager has to be a bit of a douche...you pick the players you think will win for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 When you drop down a level it is never that easy to move back up again unless you tear up the lower division. He had a decent year in League 1 last year but not outstanding and then when you add in all his injury problems it is easy to understand why no Championship teams were willing to take a chance on him. Plus while he can be effective with his playing style he has a pretty poor skill level which is why he hasn't played well at all for our national team (only 5 goals in 36 appearances 4 of which were against minnows). Hume gets a lot of love here because he plays with heart and passion but while that is important I think many people ignore his lack of technical skills. Really a classic Canadian/British style player of the previous generation. The unfortunate thing is I think he was capable of developing into so much more after the U20 but he needed to get out of England and go somewhere like Holland or Germany where he could develop his skill level. I think Hume has been one of the real player development disappointments as he had the skill set to be a much better player than he has become had they been developed properly. Not a disappointment to the extent of someone like Gyaki since Hume has still had a decent career but someone who could have been a top striker that we so desperately need instead of a journeyman lower division striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 ^The elbow to the head that almost killed him didn't help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I can't say for certain if Hume is Championship quality any more; but I think a lot of people underestimate how skillful that league is. There are currently 18 ex-Premier League clubs there and the vast majority of them have Premier League quality players. If Hume does wind up in the Championship, it'll be with a smaller club (e.g. Peterborough or Barnsley) or with not as much playing time as he could get in League One. Sounds about right, and while I do believe he is a Championship player, I think he is now an average to below average Championship player. Before the injury, I would have said he was an average to above average Championship player. At any rate I hope he can get back to that level, he still has a few good years yet, he is still under 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 When you drop down a level it is never that easy to move back up again unless you tear up the lower division. He had a decent year in League 1 last year but not outstanding and then when you add in all his injury problems it is easy to understand why no Championship teams were willing to take a chance on him. Plus while he can be effective with his playing style he has a pretty poor skill level which is why he hasn't played well at all for our national team (only 5 goals in 36 appearances 4 of which were against minnows). Hume gets a lot of love here because he plays with heart and passion but while that is important I think many people ignore his lack of technical skills. Really a classic Canadian/British style player of the previous generation. The unfortunate thing is I think he was capable of developing into so much more after the U20 but he needed to get out of England and go somewhere like Holland or Germany where he could develop his skill level. I think Hume has been one of the real player development disappointments as he had the skill set to be a much better player than he has become had they been developed properly. Not a disappointment to the extent of someone like Gyaki since Hume has still had a decent career but someone who could have been a top striker that we so desperately need instead of a journeyman lower division striker. +1 I thought his career was going to develop more along the lines of Jackson's in terms of what type of level and club he would play at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 ^The elbow to the head that almost killed him didn't help either. + an emphatic 1. People should take this into account on their rants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 ^ It might sound harsh, but Hume was 25 when he suffered the injury and to that point had played on mid-level Championship teams. The incident was surely a setback that cost him a good chunk of the prime of his career, but chances are he had already found his level. He remains a depth option but under the system favoured by Hart he finds himself behind Jackson (clearly better) and Ricketts (more athletic and more productive with the national team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Hell, even Preston North End fans thought he was being a douche. It was publicized in England that, basically, everyone thought he was being a douche. To hell with all this "good manager" talk, a good manager treats his players with more respect than to dismiss them via texts and e-mails. Total douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Hell, even Preston North End fans thought he was being a douche. It was publicized in England that, basically, everyone thought he was being a douche. To hell with all this "good manager" talk, a good manager treats his players with more respect than to dismiss them via texts and e-mails. Total douche. Douche, I say! Forza Hume! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I like this move, Doncaster is respectable hopefully he can help get them promoted and they reward him with a long term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueviking Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 he was 19th in scoring in the championship season before last (one goal behind simeon who was 13th)....he had 9 goals in only 19 starts last year in league one....i'd say he is still championship quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 ^ It might sound harsh, but Hume was 25 when he suffered the injury and to that point had played on mid-level Championship teams. The incident was surely a setback that cost him a good chunk of the prime of his career, but chances are he had already found his level. He remains a depth option but under the system favoured by Hart he finds himself behind Jackson (clearly better) and Ricketts (more athletic and more productive with the national team). Yes the injury was tragic and certainly cost him some good years of playing as well as endangering his life but his style of play was already set before then. It wasn't the injury that stopped him from developing the technical side of his game, it was playing in lower division English teams where direct physical and athletic playing style is valued far more than technique. What bothers me is that when he was playing as a 20 year old at the Youth WC he really seemed to have some natural technical abilities. They just don't seem to have been developed in England and indeed I would go as far as saying playing in such a physical athletic and rough league knocked some of his natural abilities out of him. Don't get me wrong, I think he is a great guy who is passionate and enthusiastic about playing for Canada and wish all Canadian players had his attitude. He has a great workrate but I don't think he brings the skills we need at striker or winger when we are playing decent teams. There are few games I can remember him playing in which I was not disappointed in his performance despite him always giving 100% effort. Obviously as a young player it is difficult to find the right opportunity to develop and pay wise one is probably better to stay in England. However, I think given the right circumstances Hume could have developed into a much better player than he currently is even if he had to go to a poorer league than the Championship (but one that places more emphasis on developing skills). For me he is mostly a depth player for our national team at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Agreed with Grizz. Plus, he hung out too long at Tranmere which stunted his growth and the move to Barnsley, despite Leicester's relegation (and my fondness for Barnsley), was a step backwards. If you look at his stats, his strike-rate was actually better at Leicester, a team with more competition for spots and in a higher league to boot. He was on the cusp on becoming a first-rate Tier 2 player at Leicester - a big club with a strong fanbase and good training facilities and likely better coaching. Someone brought up Jackson and that is a good example - didn't stick around too long before moving up, and always moved up, not just in terms of league but also in club stature. Hume will be a Tier 3 player from now-on, and likely a successful one. For all the flack he's taken from some sections of the PNE support he's done very well for them on a goals-per-game basis. He'll continue to do very well for himself financially - apparently Doncaster is paying only 75% of his wages - which can't be said for too many Canadian soccer players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I think this would have been a perfect time for a guy like Hume to give the MLS a try, I would think that his style of soccer would fit in well with many teams in the MLS. I can't see a guy like Hume making it in the EPL one day or any other of the big leagues in Europe, that dream has to be over for him at this stage in his career,therefore, I see no real purpose for him staying in England,moreover, how much can he be making playing at that level probably the same or maybe a bit more of what he would make in the MLS I would imagine,therefore, at this stage in his career a move to the MLS would not be a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I think this would have been a perfect time for a guy like Hume to give the MLS a try, I would think that his style of soccer would fit in well with many teams in the MLS. I can't see a guy like Hume making it in the EPL one day or any other of the big leagues in Europe, that dream has to be over for him at this stage in his career,therefore, I see no real purpose for him staying in England,moreover, how much can he be making playing at that level probably the same or maybe a bit more of what he would make in the MLS I would imagine,therefore, at this stage in his career a move to the MLS would not be a bad move. I believe Hume has stated that he wants to stay in England because of his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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