superbrad Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 http://www.ajc.com/sports/olympic-soccer-thriller-has-1493032.html Interesting hearing the other side having the same perspective as everyone else.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 http://www.ajc.com/sports/olympic-soccer-thriller-has-1493032.html Interesting hearing the other side having the same perspective as everyone else.... As alluded to in the game thread, it looks like the new chant from the stands is going to be "one steamboat, two steamboat..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescottc Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I tried that counting thing once and the ref gave me a yellow card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 OK, so the rule is rarely called... but when does the bitterness towards the referee turn towards McLeod for pushing her luck? Frankly, I think she was poor on the own goal, and then add this. Together with her howlers coming off the line to punch, when does her performance come into question? Is it to LeBlanc for the bronze medal game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrad Posted August 7, 2012 Author Share Posted August 7, 2012 OK, so the rule is rarely called... but when does the bitterness towards the referee turn towards McLeod for pushing her luck? Frankly, I think she was poor on the own goal, and then add this. Together with her howlers coming off the line to punch, when does her performance come into question? Is it to LeBlanc for the bronze medal game? I've been playing/coaching/reffing soccer for 25 years and 'rarely' called is an understatement. I've never once seen this called at any level. If you consider it time wasting then it's a yellow card for unsporting behaviour. Add that to the missed handball earlier by the American player and you have instant suspicous officiating. I expect that when I play but not in a semi-final for a world tournament. Putting that loss on McLeod is quite the stretch in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 OK, so the rule is rarely called... but when does the bitterness towards the referee turn towards McLeod for pushing her luck? Frankly, I think she was poor on the own goal, and then add this. Together with her howlers coming off the line to punch, when does her performance come into question? Is it to LeBlanc for the bronze medal game? The own goal was not her fault. Scott should have never left the near post. She did not need to, but she got sucked in by Morgan's run. McLeod cannot worry about that post. And she played much better against the US, so I cannot knock her for her performance in this game. She was very good. Yes, she held the ball too long, but so did the ego-maniac princess in the other goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 As alluded to in the game thread, it looks like the new chant from the stands is going to be "one steamboat, two steamboat..." If this is the only thing that comes out of this game ... it's worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Screw FIFA. I support Sinclair's comments and those of Herdmann. He was right that the yanks were using illegal tactics. The referee was a coward and the yanks took advantage of her ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapleblood Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 http://www.ajc.com/sports/olympic-soccer-thriller-has-1493032.html Interesting hearing the other side having the same perspective as everyone else.... http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/07/us-canada-referee-pedersen-goalie-clear-about-mondays-decision-wrong/ There is a second good article on the NBC site. In particular, I liked reading a comparison to the constant travelling in the NBA. The author said that what the referee did is equivalent to cancelling a last second, game winning shot by Kobe Bryant in the play-offs, due to the travelling that all of the players have been doing throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I've been playing/coaching/reffing soccer for 25 years and 'rarely' called is an understatement. I've never once seen this called at any level. If you consider it time wasting then it's a yellow card for unsporting behaviour. Add that to the missed handball earlier by the American player and you have instant suspicous officiating. I expect that when I play but not in a semi-final for a world tournament. Putting that loss on McLeod is quite the stretch in my opinion. I'm not putting the loss on McLeod. I can't even say for sure she held the ball for more than 6 seconds. But IF she did, them I'm just wondering out loud. I haven't reviewed the play and counted - I don't have it saved - and the article from ajc.com above seemed to suggest she'd held the ball for teens of seconds on multiple occasions. Her fault for the loss? No. But might her performance be under review given what transpired in this game and previous ones? I expect so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaymen Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 This morning i went on the FIFA website. The first thing i read was "The World got the gold medal game it wanted" there was no referee mentioned. Now i hear, "they will investigate Canadian player comments". Well we all know most Football Associations are corrupt and "Good ol' Boys" networks. Just you wait until the World Cup in Qatar, every Qatari player will have a name starting with Cristiano. Thanks to Mr. Blatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdstyle Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Petty thefts are rarely prosecuted, it is not fair I got caught stealing! In a close game and you are holding the ball, you are going to be looked at closely. it is a rule. cant hold the ball goalie. Not the Americans fault or refs fault. Goalies fault. rule of the game. My golf ball moved but no one saw it, should I be penalized? Hitting below the belt is a penalty. holding the ball shooting a foul shot for more than 10 seconds is a penalty and rarely called, shoudl it not be? Why have rule? People need to get over it and put the blame where it should be....on the goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Petty thefts are rarely prosecuted, it is not fair I got caught stealing! Particularly when everyone in the world has been encouraged to steal in the past and look, there's the mayor's kid walking out now with an armful of car stereos. You are as bad at metaphors as you are at logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Petty thefts are rarely prosecuted, it is not fair I got caught stealing! In a close game and you are holding the ball, you are going to be looked at closely. it is a rule. cant hold the ball goalie. Not the Americans fault or refs fault. Goalies fault. rule of the game. My golf ball moved but no one saw it, should I be penalized? Hitting below the belt is a penalty. holding the ball shooting a foul shot for more than 10 seconds is a penalty and rarely called, shoudl it not be? Why have rule? People need to get over it and put the blame where it should be....on the goalie. Amazing how this whole thing brings out the idiot trolls. It's just not called. Period. Research by professionals found one call in the last fifty years. It's not something that is called 'a few times a year'. It's just not done. You can't simply explain it as a rule, that is not good enough. It's beyond the expecations of everyone. Players, media, referees, fans ect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdstyle Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 so it is not a rule? That is what you are saying? maybe it is not called because there is not reason to call it? why hold the ball illegally in a close game with time running out? seems to me that is was called for a reason and the US player pointed out the obvious penalty "multiple times". Pretty easy logic I think ... break a rule, get the prescribed penalty. Why is that so difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdstyle Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I have not found any evidence that "everyone in the world has been encouraged to steal in the past"...do you have any references or can provide a link. I would be very interested to see where this is openly encouraged. that would sway my though process. Otherwise, how can one complain about a rule that is printed in black and white? During a close game with time running out - is seems that is why there IS a rule. to prevent goalies from cheating/taking advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Birdstyle Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I DID see women going down like snipers took out their legs only to see them bounce up after a breather and continue play. is THAT encouraged? I know the french practice diving, but it is bad form and against the rules as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 so it is not a rule? That is what you are saying? maybe it is not called because there is not reason to call it? why hold the ball illegally in a close game with time running out? seems to me that is was called for a reason and the US player pointed out the obvious penalty "multiple times". Pretty easy logic I think ... break a rule, get the prescribed penalty. Why is that so difficult? No, you are being totally pedantic if you think something that is so rare it is literally unprecedented and completely baffles media, referees and dedicated fans to simply appeal to the rule. It's not logic at all, it's the opposite to make a massive change to the application of the rules with no warning in a semi final game. If you just keep trolling people here, please fck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 He is from some sh!tty city called Ridgewood in New Jersey. 173.70.48.151 ISP: Verizon FiOS Country: (US) - United States Region/State: New Jersey City: Ridgewood Postal/Zip Code: 07450 Metro Code: 501 Area Code: 201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdstyle Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 would love an answer......crickets....Bueller ? Bueller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 He is from some sh!tty city called Ridgewood in New Jersey. 173.70.48.151 ISP: Verizon FiOS Country: (US) - United States Region/State: New Jersey City: Ridgewood Postal/Zip Code: 07450 Metro Code: 501 Area Code: 201 Oh, Jersey? God, no wonder The Situation here is so maladjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 would love an answer......crickets....Bueller ? Bueller? People respect those that are humble in victory. Nobody respects a trolling douchebag. Go **** off to bigsoccer or somewhere else where they sympathize with you cheating bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Birdstyle Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I am not - -really just curious why the huge "cheating" and "fixed" comments come from - seems fairly cut and dried to me if that is a rule..... **** happens, it is sports. the commentary here is comical. I have doubts it is a conspiracy or some kind of strategy to screw Canada. I rarely watch soccer but did watch this game. I saw a penalty called from what I understand is a black and white rule and then an obvious hand ball....not sure what the outrage is.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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