DJT Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Guidelines for this thread In this thread post match updates on all Canadians abroad for August 3-9, 2012. If you find updates posted in some other thread or on the other Voyageurs forum then post them here as well, but be sure to credit the original poster. If there is news that is particularly significant (eg. someone scores a big goal, someone gets injured, etc.) then feel free to begin a new thread on that topic in order to draw greater attention or start a discussion, but also post that news here. Some comments on news posted in this thread are okay, but let's not let this thread go off into a long discussion. If the news already appears in another thread (as per the previous bullet) then post your comments in that other thread, otherwise if you want to say something significant or if it is likely to generate replies then begin a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Pozniak-less Haugesund beat Valerenga 4-2. Hirschfeld was in net for Valerenga. Apparently Pozniak has been loaned out to Adeccoligaen (second tier) side Bryne: http://www.nettavisen.no/sportspill/oddsen/article3444954.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Joseph Di Chiara played in a 1-0 friendly loss for Hungarian club KTE's youth (reserves?) side vs Brazilian club Bangu Atletico. Looks like he played defensive mid in a 4-2-3-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Friendly - Issey played in a scoreless friendly for his new club AEK Lanarca vs Polish side Widzew Lodz - Edgar played the first half of Burnley's 4-0 drubbing of Cheltingham France As predicted Haidar Al-Shaibani returns to the bench as Nimes take on Nantes with Merville in net:http://www.lfp.fr/ligue2/feuille_match/76317?live=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Nik Ledgerwood became eligible to play for Hammarby IF on August 1st, and played 90 in his first match today, a 1-0 win over Umea in the Swedish 2nd tier. Hammarby are 6 points out of a promotion playoff position just over half way through the Swedish season. Ledgerwood played in his natural position as a central midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarnado1555362291 Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Finland MyPa 3 - 1 Lahti, Riley O'Neill played 90 minutes for MyPa in the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamonty Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Nik Ledgerwood became eligible to play for Hammarby IF on August 1st, and played 90 in his first match today, a 1-0 win over Umea in the Swedish 2nd tier. Hammarby are 6 points out of a promotion playoff position just over half way through the Swedish season. Ledgerwood played in his natural position as a central midfielder. Just a few more notes from a man-on-the-ground as I was at Söderstadion and took in Nik's first Hammarby game. As Jonovision mentioned, he played the full 90 in the CM - first 45 as a defensive mid, second 45 he switch with his American teammate Adis "Baggio" Husidic and played the offensive central mid role. My assesment was a very solid 90min by Ledgerwood. He won many balls and had solid distribution. Being new in the team was obvious on a couple occasions when he'd make a pass into a lane, only to have a teammate not making the run (an example in the 62' on a beauty pass at the top of the 18' box to Adelstam). Nik even got a great scoring chance in the 44' from the top of the box only to see his shot sail slightly wide and high. He looked most comfortable in the defensive mid stance, but was not out-of-place in the second half either. Hammarby started three new players in today's starting XI (one back, mid & forward). All three made solid performances and should prove valuable for a team that need new life in the second half of the season to climb back into contention for promotion. Final note, Ledgerwood was listed at 177cm, but looked like a smurf compared to the mostly scandinavian composed teams. He did well despite the size differences and was good both aerially and his foot-speed was quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I wonder if Hart will drop Ledgerwood. I think common sense would call for it with Bernier and Dunfield pushing themselves back into the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 I wonder if Hart will drop Ledgerwood. I think common sense would call for it with Bernier and Dunfield pushing themselves back into the team. From the starting XI, maybe, but not from the squad. Remember that the last 22-man roster included Pacheco and Piette who will not play a meaningful minute in this qualifying round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_K Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Two Canadians starting on the bench in Eintracht Braunschweig's 1-0 win over Köln on the 2. Bundesliga 1st matchday. REB was an unused sub, McKenna came in in the 86th minute. Braunschweig started with a rather defensive formation with only one forward and 3 d-mids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranje Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Hutch went 90 for PSV as they defeated Ajax 4-2 to win the Dutch Supercup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Watched Manchester United vs Vallanegra live on TV today. Lars Hirschfeld played the 2nd half and did reasonably well in a 0-0 draw, making a couple saves, but showing the world his ball distribution is still not quite top notch. Good job though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Finland Jonke put in his usual 90 for Jaro but was held off the scoresheet as were his teammates as they were beaten soundly 4-0 by JJK Jyväskylä. They are one point out of last place in the league. Norway (2) Pozniak played 90 for his new club Bryne, earning a yellow within the first minutes of the match and helping them to a 2-1 win over Notodden. Bryne are currently 11th in the 16 team Adeccoligaen where the bottom four get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Phil Davies started and played the first half on August 3rd in Richmond's 2-0 home win over Antigua. Richmond are currently in 5th place in the 11 team table with 3 games left in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Watched Manchester United vs Vallanegra live on TV today. Lars Hirschfeld played the 2nd half and did reasonably well in a 0-0 draw, making a couple saves, but showing the world his ball distribution is still not quite top notch. Good job though! In Cuba, the Cuban fans kept booing Hirschfeld because they thought he was time wasting every time he kicked a goal kick out of bounds and we were all thinking: nope that's just his terrible distribution. As an aside though Hirschfeld looked alright against Man United, but he also seemed to make a few judgement errors. I really do think Borjan has a good chance of starting the games against Panama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 In Cuba, the Cuban fans kept booing Hirschfeld because they thought he was time wasting every time he kicked a goal kick out of bounds and we were all thinking: nope that's just his terrible distribution. As an aside though Hirschfeld looked alright against Man United, but he also seemed to make a few judgement errors. I really do think Borjan has a good chance of starting the games against Panama. That said, even though it's arguable that Sivasspor is a better team in a better league than Vaslui, I'm still not convinced that Vaslui may not have been a better situation overall for Borjan. We'll see! Romania is actually higher ranked than you'd think as far as European leagues go, but regardless, Borjan's play for Vaslui hopefully got noticed in Turkey by his Sivasspor coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 In Cuba, the Cuban fans kept booing Hirschfeld because they thought he was time wasting every time he kicked a goal kick out of bounds and we were all thinking: nope that's just his terrible distribution. I remember it was 0-0 when he did that. I was insulted that the fans thought we were playing for a point lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Looks like Adam Straith picked up a goal yesterday (albeit in a 2-1 loss)! http://www.soccerway.com/matches/2012/08/07/germany/3-liga/1-fc-saarbrucken-ev/alemannia-aachen/1306668/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 That said, even though it's arguable that Sivasspor is a better team in a better league than Vaslui, I'm still not convinced that Vaslui may not have been a better situation overall for Borjan. We'll see! Romania is actually higher ranked than you'd think as far as European leagues go, but regardless, Borjan's play for Vaslui hopefully got noticed in Turkey by his Sivasspor coaching staff. Turkey is ranked 11th. Romania is ranked 22nd. Turkey is a far better league than Romania and has a quality league throughout the table even with the Istanbul dominance (though that is getting less and less). Romania had a blip several years ago when a few of their top teams did well in European play but that was just a temporary blip that did not reflect the actual quality of the league. Now that those points are out of the calculations Romania is back where it belongs in the low teens early 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Turkey is ranked 11th. Romania is ranked 22nd. Turkey is a far better league than Romania and has a quality league throughout the table even with the Istanbul dominance (though that is getting less and less). Romania had a blip several years ago when a few of their top teams did well in European play but that was just a temporary blip that did not reflect the actual quality of the league. Now that those points are out of the calculations Romania is back where it belongs in the low teens early 20s. Yeah I wasn't trying to deny that Turkey was a better league...but I would argue that if it so happens that Sivasspor doesn't give him much playing time, that's not a better situation for his development/career overall, is it? That was my point. And still saying...it's not like Turkish teams are famous for making big splashes in European competitions either. The latest I know of, that was Galatasaray about 10 years ago. Other slightly more significant little blips, as you'd say. So you have Sivasspor near the midtable of a slightly stronger league, Vaslui near the top of a slightly weaker league. The key to the argument is playing time. If Borjan is able to get playing time in Sivasspor, THEN I agree that it is the better situation. Needs to be played out first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Yeah I wasn't trying to deny that Turkey was a better league...but I would argue that if it so happens that Sivasspor doesn't give him much playing time, that's not a better situation for his development/career overall, is it? That was my point. And still saying...it's not like Turkish teams are famous for making big splashes in European competitions either. The latest I know of, that was Galatasaray about 10 years ago. Other slightly more significant little blips, as you'd say. So you have Sivasspor near the midtable of a slightly stronger league, Vaslui near the top of a slightly weaker league. The key to the argument is playing time. If Borjan is able to get playing time in Sivasspor, THEN I agree that it is the better situation. Needs to be played out first. But again you are calling Turkey a slightly better league than Romania but as I said before it is a FAR BETTER league than Romania. The Romanian league is not "actually higher ranked than you'd think as far as European leagues go" but is ranked at 22nd which is around where it has historically been ranked except for the slight two year blip where a few of the top teams did exceptionally well in Europe. And if you want to know what happened during those two years, a few oligarchs put massive money into a couple of clubs, a couple of rival oligarchs did the same and there were a few years in which Romania had three or four very good teams while the rest of the league was very poor. Then the money dried up and it went back to its old state of being a very mediocre league which could not even keep its better domestic players let alone bring in strong imports. The mid and lower table teams are very poor in Romania. Turkey has a very strong level of play throughout the table even with the dominance of the Istanbul teams. The Turkish league not only keeps its own players but has many good foreigners playing even on the mid and lower table teams. Whether Turkish teams are winning Champions or Europe League or not, they are still performing consistently well in those competitions often going beyond the group stage. Turkey is consistently ranked 8th to 12th place in Europe and usually picks up about 6 or 7 points in the yearly coefficient. Romania is usually around the low 20s with the exception of the blip and usually picks up about 2 or 3 points a year. That is a massive difference and I would argue the difference would be even larger if mid and lower table teams were compared. And the blip occurred partly due to weaknesses in the coefficient system resulting from Romania being ranked 25th and only have 3 teams in Europe (points are divided by number of teams) so when their 3 teams did well 2 years in a row they get massive points. The first year it happened they got 16.833 points which was more than even the EPL or La Liga got. And statistics aside, if you watch games in both leagues especially against mid or lower table teams there is an obvious huge difference in playing level. Now obviously if a player is not playing it is not good no matter what the level. However, if we say our players should stay in crappy leagues so they can get playing time that is not going to help their development much either. Borjan started for Sivaspor before and the situation there is pretty good with the starting keeper job still up for grabs. No one can say what the future will bring but it was the right choice for him to go back to a good league and fight for a job rather than stay in a mediocre league where he will not develop. And I think Sivaspor always liked his abilities but what killed him last year were the too frequent errors that lead to fluke goals. If he can cut out the errors he should win the starting job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 But again you are calling Turkey a slightly better league than Romania but as I said before it is a FAR BETTER league than Romania. The Romanian league is not "actually higher ranked than you'd think as far as European leagues go" but is ranked at 22nd which is around where it has historically been ranked except for the slight two year blip where a few of the top teams did exceptionally well in Europe. And if you want to know what happened during those two years, a few oligarchs put massive money into a couple of clubs, a couple of rival oligarchs did the same and there were a few years in which Romania had three or four very good teams while the rest of the league was very poor. Then the money dried up and it went back to its old state of being a very mediocre league which could not even keep its better domestic players let alone bring in strong imports. The mid and lower table teams are very poor in Romania. Turkey has a very strong level of play throughout the table even with the dominance of the Istanbul teams. The Turkish league not only keeps its own players but has many good foreigners playing even on the mid and lower table teams. Whether Turkish teams are winning Champions or Europe League or not, they are still performing consistently well in those competitions often going beyond the group stage. Turkey is consistently ranked 8th to 12th place in Europe and usually picks up about 6 or 7 points in the yearly coefficient. Romania is usually around the low 20s with the exception of the blip and usually picks up about 2 or 3 points a year. That is a massive difference and I would argue the difference would be even larger if mid and lower table teams were compared. And the blip occurred partly due to weaknesses in the coefficient system resulting from Romania being ranked 25th and only have 3 teams in Europe (points are divided by number of teams) so when their 3 teams did well 2 years in a row they get massive points. The first year it happened they got 16.833 points which was more than even the EPL or La Liga got. And statistics aside, if you watch games in both leagues especially against mid or lower table teams there is an obvious huge difference in playing level. Now obviously if a player is not playing it is not good no matter what the level. However, if we say our players should stay in crappy leagues so they can get playing time that is not going to help their development much either. Borjan started for Sivaspor before and the situation there is pretty good with the starting keeper job still up for grabs. No one can say what the future will bring but it was the right choice for him to go back to a good league and fight for a job rather than stay in a mediocre league where he will not develop. And I think Sivaspor always liked his abilities but what killed him last year were the too frequent errors that lead to fluke goals. If he can cut out the errors he should win the starting job. Agree with all that is said here, you cannot say the Turkey is slightly better than Romania. Although I understand his point (which is valid) regarding Bojan and playing time, he is off the mark in his assesment of Turkey. In terms of quality it is more comparible to Holland than Romania. I find that people underestimate this league, but I have watched quite a few games when Simpson was at Manisapor and the quality is a pleasent surprise. I bet if Bojan played in Holland nobody would say "the dutch league is slightly stronger thatn romania"....that even sounds funny doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Igor Pisanjuk picked up an assist, going 90, in 1-1 draw with BFC Siófok last Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Europa League Q's: Aalesund 0 APOEL 1 - Klukowski not in the mix yet. APOEL advance 3-1 on aggregate Lech Poznan 1 AIK 0 - Stamatopoulos on the bench. AIK advance 3-1 on aggregate. Young Boys 3 Kalmar 0 - Simpson out injured. YB advance 3-1 on aggregate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 France - League Cup Al-Shaibani was again the second choice as Merville backstopped Nimes to a 2-1 loss (after PKs) to AS Monaco in the French League Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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