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17 minutes ago, Tg11 said:

Also looking at the proposed match schedule Canada would be slotted into A1, Mexico would be slotted into E1 and USA would be slotted into I1 as far as the 2026 FIFA World Cup Group Draw if all 3 automatically qualify...all hosts would play on the same day on the opening day.

Can you share? Thanks!

 

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18 minutes ago, Keegan said:

To be clear I’m talking about the Republic hosting with England and Scotland.. so N. Ireland and Wales left out.

Sure, but if you are picking some / not all in that region, there will be issues. 

I'm sure England would maybe share with Scotland, but probably not Ireland. 

 

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1 hour ago, Keegan said:

The 2/3 team World Cup raises interesting possibilities too.. like imagine a Scotland, Ireland, England tournament or Australia, NZ. 

The rumour that had been kicking around before Morocco went with their own bid this time was a 2034 bid of Morocco, Spain, and Portugal.  I can see that as a valid bid.  Brings the World Cup back to Africa but also alleviates a bunch of the financial concerns surrounding this bid.  

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3 hours ago, Tg11 said:

Yeah sure just go to Wikipedia

I will give you the link and it shows the match schedule of where the 3 teams are slotted

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Mexico–United_States_2026_FIFA_World_Cup_bid#Proposed_provisional_match_schedule

But this is the source though:

https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/united-2026-bid-book.pdf?cloudid=w3yjeu7dadt5erw26wmu

That's the bid committee (mainly USSF) that determined this not FIFA.

 

Even Montagliani said on record during his interview at Sportsnet yesterday:

FIFA has last say on games, location and what not. FIFA takes over and manage the tournament.

Despite the committee submitting this schedule, FIFA has last say, period.

 

That's why I find it ridiculous that people are giving up and just accepting we're only getting 10 games and no matches past quarter-finals. There's still time to send "positive" feedback to FIFA and CONCACAF expressing our passion and desire to have both Mexico and Canada host more games all the way to the semi-finals and a less one sided bid. The more feedback, the better.

 

Assuming that both Canada and Mexico gets 6 stadiums (a shame Vancouver's out as we could have had 4 out of 16), the US gets 10 (FIFA picks the 16 remaining stadiums). I personally doubt FIFA gives a disproportionate amount of games to the US as the USSF wishes for, especially when flights between Montreal and NY are shorter than NY-Florida. 

60-10-10 is a done deal ONLY when FIFA says so.

 

We fought so hard as a community to have our own league and hold the CSA accountable, the biggest soccer event in our lifetime is finally coming to Canada and we won't as a community do a positive campaign to influence both CONCACAF and FIFA to balance the bid better? We won't show why more games would be great for all 3 countries? Explaining what we mean by "UNITED"? We're just giving up and thanking the heavens that we got 10 games when we have a solid half a decade to push the message and make it mainstream?

If that's the case, I'll be the lone fool doing my part on social medias, but I'd be very disappointed.

Even if we use pure maths assuming that Mexico and Canada gets 3 stadiums each and the rest goes to the US, the correct ration is 50-15-15. No excuses why Azteca and Olympic Stadium can't host a semi-final each or Commonwealth and Monterrey can't host a quarter-final game.

We should fight for 50-15-15 and inclusion past the round of 16.

Thank you

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Canada as far as the Group Draw for Automatic Qualification...2026 FIFA World Cup Group Draw... Canada would most likely be seeded in Pot 1...I can't wait until the Group Draw in 2026 because for a 48 team tournament with 3 team groups you could wind up with Groups of Death. However, considering this year for Russia 2018 they fixed the Group Draw to make it more fair as far as balancing the groups out. Furthermore, if Canada is one of the automatic slots and are through to 2026 automatically then I can see them getting a favorable group draw. However, it could be worse. They could end up in a Group of Death. However, no one really knows between now and 2026.

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Can I just say how much I hate the format change to groups of three?

It really hurts the weaker teams by reducing the number of matches for which they get to represent their country on the world stage.

Also, I don't think that having each team play only two matches in the group stage allows the countries involved to definitively determine who is best in the group.  Even three matches is not enough, IMHO.

I mean, I get why it has to be done... with the increased field of 48, they're trying to keep the total number of group stage matches at a reasonable number.  Plus the mid-level teams stand a better chance to make it into the larger knockout round field of 32.  But it still seems like a fundamentally flawed group stage system.

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51 minutes ago, spinrack said:

Can I just say how much I hate the format change to groups of three?

It really hurts the weaker teams by reducing the number of matches for which they get to represent their country on the world stage.

Also, I don't think that having each team play only two matches in the group stage allows the countries involved to definitively determine who is best in the group.  Even three matches is not enough, IMHO.

I mean, I get why it has to be done... with the increased field of 48, they're trying to keep the total number of group stage matches at a reasonable number.  Plus the mid-level teams stand a better chance to make it into the larger knockout round field of 32.  But it still seems like a fundamentally flawed group stage system.

 

I agree with that most definitely. It does hurt the weaker teams in the 3 team groups by reducing the number of games. However, a 48 team tournament has never ever been done before. 2026 will be the first time something like this has ever happened and I get why they expanded because of money purposes, sponsorships and what have you. FIFA see this as a golden opportunity and I know I do too. We get to see countries in that have never been in the tournament before but also seeing countries who haven't been there for a while return back on the world stage. You have that inclusive factor to the tournament. More competition all the way around and you spread the football love as it were.

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Yeah but only if you buy your tickets well in advance but even then tickets would probably cost a fortune. For me that is why I am saving my money now and then by doing that I actually have enough to go to watch a FIFA World Cup game in our backyard especially if Canada is playing or let's say my other country Ghana God willing were playing in Canada I would go to watch in 2026.

 

48 teams if you have Canada, USA and Mexico all as automatic qualification as hosts...that leaves 3 spots wide open for CONCACAF especially if the hosts are not taking part in qualification...that is 3 spots left for CONCACAF well technically 4 spots because for the allotment of teams for continents:

 

Africa (9 teams)

Asia (8 teams)

Europe (16 teams)

South America (6 teams)

North America (3 spots depending on if 3 co hosts qualify automatically)= 42 spots + 3 automatic co-hosts= 45 spots

Oceania (1 spot)= 46 spots

 

Then the last 2 spots are play-off spots apparently

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1 hour ago, Nick P said:

Excited about the United 2026 World Cup but then I thought about tickets. Its gonna be Super Bowl/World Series prices on steroids

We will be in Edmonton for their games (free place to crash- woot woot).  Honestly, it doesn't matter what the tickets cost.  I will pay it.  

(And you have 8 years to save up)

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3 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

We will be in Edmonton for their games (free place to crash- woot woot).  Honestly, it doesn't matter what the tickets cost.  I will pay it.  

(And you have 8 years to save up)

I know right...8 years to save my money because I want to see Canada play

However, if Canada is given automatic qualification like 2 of their group games would be in Canada which means one of their games would be in Edmonton at Commonwealth Stadium and their other game would most likely be at either Olympic Stadium in Montreal or BMO Field in Toronto. If it is at BMO no question I'm going since I am from Toronto. If it is in Montreal I will mission down to Montreal. I don't really care one way or the other.

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Plus the way they allotted the spots:

Africa (9 teams)

Asia (8 teams)

Europe (16 teams)

South America (6 teams)

North America (3 spots depending on if 3 co hosts qualify automatically)= 42 spots + 3 automatic co-hosts= 45 spots

Oceania (1 spot)= 46 spots

 

Then the last 2 spots are play-off spots apparently

 

To me anyway as far as qualifiers, that seems pretty fair to me if you ask me

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Word is that FIFA will decide on this issue as far as automatic qualification for all 3 nations for 2026...in June of 2019 at least that is what I hear through certain grapevines though I feel it is inevitable that all 3 go through. It just needs to be clarified because it's the first time something like this has ever happened.

 

 It seems as if USA and Mexico are for sure in, Canada being the question mark. However that would be outrageous if they still have to go through the qualification cycle. Plus if it was still a 32 team tournament then I could see the problem with all 3 qualifying. But for a 48 team tournament where three other teams from CONCACAF are still going to get in? No big deal.

 

Furthermore, Canada are going to automatically qualify I am not worried. Too much money on the line to leave anything to chance.

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Also with us, USA and Mexico having automatic qualification it actually helps us in the long run because then we aren't going through the trouble of having to qualify for our tournament and we can sit back and watch the other CONCACAF nations try to qualify from the Hex. If we are given 3 automatic spots then that leaves 3 more spots for other countries in CONCACAF to take plus a playoff spot (CONCACAF going up against Asia or Oceania) so in actuality it is really the same as any normal Hex if you really think about it

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22 hours ago, spinrack said:

Can I just say how much I hate the format change to groups of three?

It really hurts the weaker teams by reducing the number of matches for which they get to represent their country on the world stage.

Also, I don't think that having each team play only two matches in the group stage allows the countries involved to definitively determine who is best in the group.  Even three matches is not enough, IMHO.

I mean, I get why it has to be done... with the increased field of 48, they're trying to keep the total number of group stage matches at a reasonable number.  Plus the mid-level teams stand a better chance to make it into the larger knockout round field of 32.  But it still seems like a fundamentally flawed group stage system.

Just wait until Canada advances from the group stage on a coin toss, then you will really love it

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22 hours ago, spinrack said:

Can I just say how much I hate the format change to groups of three?

It really hurts the weaker teams by reducing the number of matches for which they get to represent their country on the world stage.

Also, I don't think that having each team play only two matches in the group stage allows the countries involved to definitively determine who is best in the group.  Even three matches is not enough, IMHO.

I mean, I get why it has to be done... with the increased field of 48, they're trying to keep the total number of group stage matches at a reasonable number.  Plus the mid-level teams stand a better chance to make it into the larger knockout round field of 32.  But it still seems like a fundamentally flawed group stage system.

Not to mention the possibility of teams colluding in the final match of the group and the fact that 2 of the 3 teams advance

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For those that didn't see the Maradona quote on TSN:

"Mexico doesn't deserve it. The Mexicans come up against Brazil or Germany … and 'boom,' they're out." said Maradona

He added: "There's no passion. The Canadians may be good skiers, and the Americans wanted to have four periods of 25 [minutes] for the advertising."

If nothing else, he's entertaining.

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6 hours ago, canta15 said:

Not to mention the possibility of teams colluding in the final match of the group and the fact that 2 of the 3 teams advance

That's an excellent point, and I'm sure we'll see plenty of that when the time comes.

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6 hours ago, canta15 said:

Not to mention the possibility of teams colluding in the final match of the group and the fact that 2 of the 3 teams advance

Yes, that was my thought as well.  There's a very good reason why there are currently an even number of teams in each group and the last matches of the group stage are played simultaneously.

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On 6/14/2018 at 7:37 PM, Tg11 said:

 

48 teams if you have Canada, USA and Mexico all as automatic qualification as hosts...that leaves 3 spots wide open for CONCACAF especially if the hosts are not taking part in qualification...

No one will ever complain about getting a bye to the WC.  But, having said that, not  playing competitive matches like you get in qualifying is one of the pitfalls of being the hosts.   Especially for sides like Can, US and Mex.   if you are one of the three or four top national sides in the world,  you can rely on talent and on the invisible hand that can occur behind the scenes (eg.: Arg 78 and Fra 98).  But  Italy, Germany and Brazil never won as hosts and you can argue they under performed in the WC’s that they hosted if you look at the talent they had at the time. 

Freindlies are just that, freindlies.  How to stay sharp and focused in the 4 years leading up to 2026 is going be the challenge 

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It will be interesting to see what Impact the 2026 story will have in Tabla’s final decision.  One would have thought up to now, that the odds were trending against Canada. But now, i would think they are better and you never know what you can achieve behind the scenes when there is the greater urgency to field the strongest team possible.  Tabla and Davies would look really good on the wings for Canada.

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1 hour ago, Free kick said:

 But  Italy, Germany and Brazil never won as hosts and you can argue they under performed in the WC’s that they hosted if you look at the talent they had at the time.

(West) Germany did win as hosts in 1974.  They started slowly but peaked at the right time.

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