Standard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I really don't think we will call REB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I must not rate Simpson as highly as others here. Even against the dross we played in the last round, Simpson's game was found out eventually. He doesn't have a ton of speed, and only a few moves that have not been effective against quality opponents. I'm not sure what we do in that spot, and it surely is a loss, but if you were counting on Simpson to be one of our 2 or 3 best players overall, I think you were already kidding yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I really don't think we will call REB. who would your money be on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadasBest Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 One of the most consistently good players we have had in the last 3 years. Simpson out is a massive blow. We have other options on the wing yes, but none of them who can actually cross the ball like Simpson, and can score like Simpson. Next to Hutchinson, this injury is probably the next worst scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standard Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 who would your money be on? Don't think we call any extra players up tbh, have enough depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 One of the most consistently good players we have had in the last 3 years. Simpson out is a massive blow. We have other options on the wing yes, but none of them who can actually cross the ball like Simpson, and can score like Simpson. Next to Hutchinson, this injury is probably the next worst scenario. +1 and also to add to that Simpson was double teamed against the USA last summer and was still our best attacking option.. that is HUGE. This is a big blow but luckily it has happened at a time when we can regroup. Such a shame that Teibert isn't playing for Vancouver he is very similar to Josh with his flair and speed... plus he can take some mean set pieces. Simpson is one of two players I'd automatically have in any XI (the other obviously being Hutch). This will be a chance for someone to win a spot, hopefully they grab it. REB must be getting the call right about now (or Cavallini (left footer)?). This is a blow, but when you can slot in the MLS MVP in an injury spot you have to be happy. If we stick with the same old: --------------------Occean----------------------- De Rosario---------Hume---------------Jackson ----------De Guzman----Hutchinson----------- Klukowski---Mckenna------Edgar-----Hainault ------------------Hirschfeld--------------------- Or what I'd prefer: ----------------------Occean------------------ -----------------Hume----Jackson------------- ----Hutchinson---De Guzman----De Rosario-- Klukowski---Mckenna------Edgar-----Hainault ------------------Hirschfeld--------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 ... but if you were counting on Simpson to be one of our 2 or 3 best players overall, I think you were already kidding yourself. Well I must be kidding myself because that is definitely what I believe! Simpson is always in my starting XI. I hope he will be able to recover to help us win twice against Panama in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Of course Simpson is one of our top 2 or 3 players! How could anyone who has watched the national team over the past two years say anything differently?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrenaline11 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Of course Simpson is one of our top 2 or 3 players! How could anyone who has watched the national team over the past two years say anything differently?!?! Agreed. This is a massive blow for us if it's true that he's out for the rest of 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I believe that Canada's only real chance in this group is to tighten things up defensively. Whatever his skills, I don't think Simpson has much to contribute in this department (though De Ro wide left would be just as useless defensively). Strange as it sounds, with the players currently selected I'd play Morgan in Simpson's presumed spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'd love to see REB called. When we're pinned back in our end in Panama and Honduras, REB is the type of player that could create something out of nothing with his speed. Ricketts may be a similar player, but I think REB is a very useful weapon up front, especially when nothing is working for us (as is usually the case). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Agree with the earlier post that we need to play a 4-3-3 now with Dero and Jackson out wide and a midfield 3 of JDG--Hutch--Johnson, wish DeJong was fit as he'd be a big help in that midfield either starting or at least giving us depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 Simpson is a wonderful technical player but CMNT advances through defensive solidity and taking opportune scoring chances...! Besides that Simpsons scoring and assist record with CMNT is abysmal (4 goals in 43 games). REB can surely replace that - or a platoon situation can. Issey is a similar player and can slide in effectively I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJO Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Ohhhh, of course of course. Just injure all the players, please. get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Losing Simpson is a huge loss. We are simply not deep enough to lose a player of his ability and athleticism. With that said, injuries are a reality of sport and a good team finds a way to win. We'll know soon enough if we are a good team. God help me, why do I keep doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 First off of those 19 goals name one game De Rosario has scored in an important World Cup Qualifier? Or a good game he's played in a World Cup Qualifier past the opening round? But on the second point, I agree Issey may be a good choice to replace Simpson if it comes to moving DeRo inside to ensure that we have more of a creative threat going forward from the middle of the park. Too negative of thoughts there...it takes 11 men to win a game, not one...take Simpson...very creative on the dribble yes, but not as strong in terms of feeding players like DeRo in the middle of the pitch...better at dribble penetration. He's still a VERY important piece to the puzzle, even more than Josh Simpson. The problem is, he was overrated for so long and shoved down people's throats that now everyone wants to cheer for the underdog and is underrating DeRo. Oh well. It's that kind of mentality that got Tie Domi millions of fans while Sundin got booed out of town. Get out of here, DeRo: Richard Eckersley and Dan Gargan are the type of players to win TFC championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 Jakovic for Simpson. Yep, that's an equitable trade. Nothing personal Jako. Well, this is REB's time to get a call-up, and likely an opportunity for Ricketts to get himself into the first team ... and potentially force Hart to make a different tactical set-up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Well, this is REB's time to get a call-up, and likely an opportunity for Ricketts to get himself into the first team ... and potentially force Hart to make a different tactical set-up! Unless Jackson is played as a central striker I don't see how Ricketts gets into the starting lineup. We have 3 or 4 guys for the same wide right attacking spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Too negative of thoughts there...it takes 11 men to win a game, not one...take Simpson...very creative on the dribble yes, but not as strong in terms of feeding players like DeRo in the middle of the pitch...better at dribble penetration. He's still a VERY important piece to the puzzle, even more than Josh Simpson. The problem is, he was overrated for so long and shoved down people's throats that now everyone wants to cheer for the underdog and is underrating DeRo. Oh well. It's that kind of mentality that got Tie Domi millions of fans while Sundin got booed out of town. Get out of here, DeRo: Richard Eckersley and Dan Gargan are the type of players to win TFC championships. I don't want to turn this into a DeRo bashing thread at all, I'm a fan of De Rosario's... however regardless of how hyped or not hyped players are there is no denying that in the last two years Josh Simpson has performed much better for the national team than De Rosario ever has, regardless of how many unimportant goals Dwayne has ever scored for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Too negative of thoughts there...it takes 11 men to win a game, not one...take Simpson...very creative on the dribble yes, but not as strong in terms of feeding players like DeRo in the middle of the pitch...better at dribble penetration. He's still a VERY important piece to the puzzle, even more than Josh Simpson. The problem is, he was overrated for so long and shoved down people's throats that now everyone wants to cheer for the underdog and is underrating DeRo. Oh well. It's that kind of mentality that got Tie Domi millions of fans while Sundin got booed out of town. Get out of here, DeRo: Richard Eckersley and Dan Gargan are the type of players to win TFC championships. Come on now, Ecks is much more talented and resourceful than Gargan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I don't want to turn this into a DeRo bashing thread at all, I'm a fan of De Rosario's... however regardless of how hyped or not hyped players are there is no denying that in the last two years Josh Simpson has performed much better for the national team than De Rosario ever has, regardless of how many unimportant goals Dwayne has ever scored for us. For me, DeRo and Simpson complement eachother on the field. Everytime I watch them play together for us I want to see them linking up more. Simpson certainly has more pace and contributed more in recent WCQs, but for me it isn't an either/or thing, I always want both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 For me, DeRo and Simpson complement eachother on the field. Everytime I watch them play together for us I want to see them linking up more. Simpson certainly has more pace and contributed more in recent WCQs, but for me it isn't an either/or thing, I always want both. I agree they play well together and I'm not making this a "we play Simpson or DeRo thing", what I'm saying is that it is far beyond optimistic to say we've lost Simpson so DeRo will just pick up the slack. DeRo in no way at all atones for the loss of Simpson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshieScores Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I believe that Canada's only real chance in this group is to tighten things up defensively. Whatever his skills, I don't think Simpson has much to contribute in this department (though De Ro wide left would be just as useless defensively). Strange as it sounds, with the players currently selected I'd play Morgan in Simpson's presumed spot. Or move up Klukowski to LW to mask his defensive shortcomings as his crossings can still be useful. That way we may see Jazic, McKenna, Edgar, Hainault across the back 4. Morgan can come off the bench to replace Klukowski. I agree that this presents an opportunity to tighten up our defensive tactics. Now that we are seriously overloaded with right sided players and got no attacking options on the left, our opponents will definitely seek to exploit this. Hart has serious homework to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I agree they play well together and I'm not making this a "we play Simpson or DeRo thing", what I'm saying is that it is far beyond optimistic to say we've lost Simpson so DeRo will just pick up the slack. DeRo in no way at all atones for the loss of Simpson. No. If anything we should call REB and get a super-fast second forward on the pitch. There's no-one who can pick up Simpson's slack here. If there were, they'd be in the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Considering how poorly Klukowski was defensively against Armenia, and he is naturally one of the best crossers of the ball we have, it probably isn't a bad idea to do just that and move Klukowski out wide left and Jazic on the backline. I mean ability to actually to create many chances against Honduras, Panama or even Cuba was lacking before the Simpson injury, now it becomes very difficult so our best bet may just be to go out with a solid defensive side as Jonovision is suggesting. I mean that seems to be the trend in international football anyways. With one of our biggest, if not the biggest, offensive threat out for these two crucial games it may be our only real option to go and play super negative football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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