Obinna Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 http://www.downthebyline.com/2012/03/gyorio-turns-down-offer-from-sporting.html For a while it looked like Canadian trialist, Mozzi Gyorio was going to become a Sporting KC player. He'd spent plenty of the preseason with KC, getting time in the tournament in Orlando. He'd come back to KC with the team, but then headed off to join the Canadian U23 camp ahead of Olympic qualifying. Gyorio didn't make the final roster for qualifying for Canada and so thoughts turned back to whether he would sign with KC. Word out of Canada is that KC did offer Gyorio a contract, but the Canadian has turned down the offer. Gyorio is still looking for a new club, but is apparently also hoping to get an improved offer from Sporting KC. It'll be interesting to see if he does get one, it'll be a sign about how highly Peter Vermes thinks of the 22 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Guessing he wants an "on-budget" contract as opposed to one of those "off-budget" contracts? Ballsy move, let's hope it pays off for him...still can't believe Fonseca didn't pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 And yet another guy who's probably going to the NASL rather than making Future Shop sales associate money in Major League Soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 And yet another guy who's probably going to the NASL rather than making Future Shop sales associate money in Major League Soccer. That's...that's a good thing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 For Mozzi it probably would be. It does illustrate once again how ridiculous MLS's off-roster salaries are, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 For Mozzi it probably would be. It does illustrate once again how ridiculous MLS's off-roster salaries are, though. This is the first time I've even heard the phrase "off-roster salaries"...I thought the salary rules I already knew were convoluted and stupid, what's the deal with these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 "Off-roster" was me having a little stroke. I meant "off-cap". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Like a GA kinda deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I'm at work so excuse me if I don't look up the specifics, but the lowest-paid players on a team don't count against the salary cap if they're making below a certain figure regardless of GA or HG status. Last year those players made either $32,600 or $42,000 (I think); each team had a limited number of slots at the higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 ^And you have to be '88 or younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Carl Haworth is twice the player Gyorio is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 And yet another guy who's probably going to the NASL rather than making Future Shop sales associate money in Major League Soccer. You got that right. i knew a few guys who were on the fringes of TFC back in the Mojo days and they mentioned something similar. Said with the money being so minimal and no solid commitment of the team to showcase young players, it wasn't worth their time. They work in offices now and have given up on the sport. When the minimum salary is 60-80 grand then we'll be getting somewhere. Frankly I'm more concerned about that as opposed to putting an extra story on Beckham's house. Honestly, it's such little investment for such great upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourfourtwo Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 You got that right. i knew a few guys who were on the fringes of TFC back in the Mojo days and they mentioned something similar. Said with the money being so minimal and no solid commitment of the team to showcase young players, it wasn't worth their time. They work in offices now and have given up on the sport. When the minimum salary is 60-80 grand then we'll be getting somewhere. Frankly I'm more concerned about that as opposed to putting an extra story on Beckham's house. Honestly, it's such little investment for such great upside. This is seemingly why Big Phil (and Porter) are not at VWFC anymore. He isn't a squad player (top 20) and he didn't want to make 32,000 a year. I am sure if the rules were different and we could pay them NASL money, they might still be in the set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevensandor Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Usually don't do this... but sometimes I don't like when others take credit for my work. Us journalists get touchy about this stuff. This is the "word out of Canada" story that is being quoted by the SKC blogger. He hasn't declined SKC outright. His agents and him are still open to another offer, and there has been some back and forth. http://the11.ca/2012/03/26/gyorio-says-no-to-initial-offer-from-sporting-kansas-city/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Fougere Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 If you don't tell us you wrote it. Noone would. Stand up for your work. Noone here would begrudge that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevensandor Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Thanks. I never mind someone quoting me as a source, as long as it's done in a proper manner. I try to do that on my site. I identify when information comes from a press release, team website or another source. I also identify if a quote came via e-mail. It's not enough just to link. You have to identify your source in body copy! That being said, I hope Mozzi can find a deal. By the second half of the last NASL season, he had become one of the best outside players in NASL. He really thrives on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 It's not enough just to link. You have to identify your source in body copy! You think? (This is more than usually relevant since I had an article go up this morning linking to your actual article about Gyorio without mentioning you in the body copy). I come from a tradition of pretty much online-only writing and pretty much everything I did in print was in the world of academia, where a footnote or an endnote is standard. When I link to your article as the source for a given statement, there's no ambiguity and it's such a standard way to cite a source that nobody who's read more than three websites will have any doubt who I'm crediting for what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevensandor Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Not to turn this into a forum on journalistic method, but I can't count the hours I have spent in seminars, professional-development pow-wows and editors' chats about stuff like this. Was at the Alberta Magazine conference last week, and we spent a long time discussing online journalism. Yes, linking in a colloquial form is becoming more and more the norm. And I think there are two ways to go about it. I saw the Score article and I was fine by the way the link was couched. I wasn't with the KC link. Difference? I think the language is important. Too many reporters try links but at the same time use language that make it sound like the original sources were theirs in the first place. I come from newspaper-magazine background so I tend to attribute to a fault, and I am always asking the same of my writers. Sorry to disturb what was a perfectly good thread about a player I think we'd all rather see playing somewhere than sitting at home.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Damned journos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest soccer1 Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 You got that right. i knew a few guys who were on the fringes of TFC back in the Mojo days and they mentioned something similar. Said with the money being so minimal and no solid commitment of the team to showcase young players, it wasn't worth their time. They work in offices now and have given up on the sport. When the minimum salary is 60-80 grand then we'll be getting somewhere. Frankly I'm more concerned about that as opposed to putting an extra story on Beckham's house. Honestly, it's such little investment for such great upside. Same old hoo-haa. $42,000 for seven months work for a 21 year old to play pro sports isn't exactly working at Arby's. There we also no young players in MoJo's era who were going anywhere but the office job anyway, but the lower salaries were certainly used as an excuse to burnish a few egos when it was too hard to make the grade even on those awful teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 It's not the $42,000 salary as a 21 year old. It's what happens when that short career is over after only making $42,000 for a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I wonder if he still has an offer at Ferecvaros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 It might likely be far less than $42000 too. Correct me if I'm wrong but an MLS contract might say 36-42000 but depending on the offer, it might actually be closer to 20,000. Hard to make a go of it anywhere for that kind of dough It's not the $42,000 salary as a 21 year old. It's what happens when that short career is over after only making $42,000 for a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 It might likely be far less than $42000 too. Correct me if I'm wrong but an MLS contract might say 36-42000 but depending on the offer, it might actually be closer to 20,000. Hard to make a go of it anywhere for that kind of dough Minimum is $32,000. My guess is the offer is closer to that number than $42,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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